Anonymous #1 23h

Real asf!

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Anonymous #2 23h

I think it is only valuable if the man himself also chooses to be a virgin. In that case, it’s shared values. But if the man himself is not a virgin yet demands a virgin wife? He is absolutely treating her as an object whose worth is based on amount of people she’s slept with - and he’s decided the rules don’t apply to himself.

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Anonymous #2 23h

I think op might’ve been trying to say the person really would value both young and a virgin bc it’s most desirable, so correlating how being a virgin can mean on a deeper level they want someone who’s young. Also in this case people want a virgin because no one else has touched them, so objectifying them

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Anonymous #4 22h

No it’s fine to want someone who’s a virgin or low body count, but hold urself to the same standard

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Anonymous #4 22h

not being a virgin = ran through??

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Anonymous #10 22h

Why do you care?

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Anonymous #9 22h

cause it was my own partner who told me. i had no problem with being celibate but to make a comment that it’s disrespectful when you’re aware im not a virgin is j rude

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Anonymous #4 22h

It’s fine to have that standard if you hold yourself to it as well. I’m a woman waiting for marriage and want my future husband to be a virgin. But if I had slept with people that would be an unreasonable expectation on my end—it becomes not a value anymore but a demand

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Anonymous #1 22h

exactly. and just the ideology to judge a woman for not saving herself is weird. i understand if it’s in your religion and something you follow, but it’s the response when a woman says she isn’t a virgin. society forces woman to feel bad for not saving themselves… but it’s okay that the man doesn’t… the double standards

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Anonymous #4 22h

it’s understandable to want a woman who isn’t “ran through” or in your opinion has self respect. but you can’t hold the woman to that standard if you can’t practice what you preach

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Anonymous #16 22h

Woman**

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Anonymous #18 22h

Exactly and it’s literally a preference. You can’t hate on someone because they prefer someone with less bodies. Everyone isn’t required to accept a high body count

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Anonymous #18 22h

Of course there are woman who want their men to be virgins, but i believe the person who posted this is looking at the majority of who is targeted the most for not being a virgin; woman. it’s okay to have a preference but it isn’t okay to respond to someone and degrade them when you can’t even hold yourself to that standard

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Anonymous #19 22h

i’m sure the same thing could be said about the men

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Anonymous #18 22h

That stance is inherently slut shaming and it would never be the other way around except for in a few instances because men are not systematically slut shamed the way women are. Additionally, women do not have the same taste (wanting younger looking partners) even lesbians prefer older looking women to women rhat look significantly younger than them

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Anonymous OP 22h

Virginity is a social construct and you can break that skin literally riding a bike

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Anonymous #15 22h

A male has external parts a female does not

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Anonymous #17 22h

Saving yourself is one thing. That is a personal choice. Thinking that women should be virgins is weird

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Anonymous #23 22h

🤣

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Anonymous #24 22h

And that’s perfectly fine

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Anonymous #14 22h

the problem is not practicing what you preach, not infantilization. I mean infantilization totally is a problem but this particular value issue is a hypocrisy problem. Different issue.

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why do you say that :c

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Not necessarily

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🫠

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That depends on how you define pleasant, for one, and it really is okay for people to have a different value than you 😭

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If you educate yourself then no it won’t 😭 you can be a virgin who knows about sex without having it

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Anonymous #15 22h

But I don’t see where stating “I want my wife to be a virgin” or “I want my husband to be a virgin” is degrading. If feels like people are making assumptions based off of insecurities or something else because if the sentence continued with slurs disgust me it’s not targeting women or men in a demeaning way. Let’s not assume everyone has ill intent in this matter and see it from a big picture perspective. Not everyone has malice in their heart

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Anonymous #16 22h

right

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Anonymous OP 22h

jesus christ some of you guys in these comments need to take a walk in the fresh air

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Anonymous #23 22h

Aww so sweet that you want your wife to have so much in common with you!

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Anonymous #1 22h

Exactly. The standard for women is quiet, hairless, submissive, virgins. Which feels very much like looking for a young girl

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Anonymous #16 22h

A and b conversation buddy C your way out of here my son

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Anonymous #19 22h

so with that reasoning, because a male has external parts it’s okay for him to get with as many females as he pleases but a woman will be shamed if she were to do the same because her parts aren’t “external”?

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Anonymous #18 22h

Because seeing sex between two consenting adults as a bad thing is regressive and if you make a personal choice thats one thing but to look down on people who are not virgins or immediately write them off regardless of the personality is degrading especially when it happens disproportionately to women

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Anonymous #15 22h

Yeah

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Anonymous #26 22h

😭😭😭😭

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Anonymous OP 22h

BOOOOOOOOOOO

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Anonymous OP 22h

Or just don’t sleep around

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Anonymous #15 22h

It’s not about shame it’s about the effect it has, a vagina isn’t gonna stay the after 5-10 bodies like a dick will plain and simple argue it all u want lol

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Anonymous #11 22h

Stay the same *

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Anonymous #14 22h

I want her to be homosexual like me too

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Anonymous #16 22h

Its a part of a larger systematic preference for younger looking, skinny, hairless, submissive women

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Anonymous #11 22h

so the vagina is a muscle.. it does not infact get stretched the way your butthole would when you and your friends peg each other lol

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Anonymous OP 22h

I would say look at my comment to 15. You’re making an assumption that someone who says that has malice intent. The only way that double standards continue to exist is if you accept them. I don’t and we all should hold each other to the same standards. A man that sleeps around is a slut too and we all know it. You are speaking on a specific type of man which is not all men same as not all women who has more than 1–2 bodies is a slut. Some people want intimacy with one person that’s okay

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Anonymous #11 22h

Okay but other than morals and sleeping around, which I completely agree with, there is no difference PHYSICALLY than a woman sleeping with 10 different men or 1 man 10 different times

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Anonymous #21 22h

Thats fine but saying you wont even consider someone who has had sec even once is different then “i know this person is not looking for the same thing as me and we are not compatible”

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Anonymous #15 22h

It’s not gonna be the same bro argue it all u want

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Anonymous OP 21h

Yeah agreed fa

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Anonymous #22 21h

Not having sex doesnt make u better than anyone btw!

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Anonymous OP 21h

Especially if it was with a long term partner that just happened to not work out

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Anonymous #18 21h

you’re 100% correct that different people have different intents. but the majority of men hear “you’re not a virgin? you’ve been ran through” which follows with degrading slurs, and MOST (not all) of the men saying this have similar if not higher body counts than the woman they’re degrading. but logistically this primarily happens to woman and not the other way around

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Anonymous #11 21h

And that’s before bringing up whether or not the guy pulls out

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Anonymous OP 21h

Just because someone has a preference does not mean they hate women who sleep around. My favorite color is pink but I don’t hate all colors and refuse to wear they. Again making an assumption off of a sentence

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Anonymous OP 21h

Who said better? But why are you judging somebody else for principals that they have?

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Anonymous #15 21h

What would you consider ran through

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Anonymous #7 21h

did not mean to reply to OP when i said this*

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So you’re saying it’s gonna last at least 8 minutes longer than the majority of your encounters? Ok….

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Anonymous #14 21h

I agree but i think that some of the examples you use are exceptions that doesnt necessarily reflect my point. People do have more sex as they get older, that is just basic reason based on college, marraige, going to bars, etc. my point is that is that wanting a virgin falls into thw same catagory to me as wanting hairless, skinny, obeident wife who will do anythong to stay looking young

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Anonymous #23 21h

Literally what is wrong with u

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Okay and they’ll have the rest of their life’s to practice. They don’t need to practice with other people first to get it that’s such a weird and odd thing to say. Are you seeing the people who you are in a relationship with as someone just to practice sex with until the right person?

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Anonymous #24 21h

And see thats fine and normal because you are both being held to the same standard

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Anonymous #16 21h

i feel like the better question is what do men consider ran through because most women don’t use that term. from most experiences a man hears their friend had sex with a woman and automatically the friend group calls her ran through

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Anonymous #19 21h

And?

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Anonymous #18 21h

Okay i didnt say if both people want to save themselves for marriage i said men who specifically get their rocks off to virgins

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Anonymous #2 21h

Higher standard literally means better 🧍‍♀️

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Anonymous #19 21h

Yeah but you’re spreading misinformation. Can’t let you do that lil bud

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Anonymous #19 21h

Thats literally not true. Women are popping out babies and u really think ur 🍤 is gonna make a difference

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Anonymous #19 21h

In a comment section buddy you know better than that it’s a A-Z conversation. You should have Dmed them that if you didn’t want criticism

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Anonymous #15 21h

From my perspective I think age def matters. I wouldn’t call a woman ran through after 1 body. Now when you get to 5-6+ that’s where it gets crazy to me but also the age matters too

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Anonymous #19 21h

WHO CARES THE PUSS IS SELF CLEANING

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Anonymous OP 21h

Jesus yall need a basic biology lesson

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Anonymous OP 21h

Yeah but that’s different it’s supposed to push out babies however it’s not supposed to be dick central taking any and all customers

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Anonymous OP 21h

Tell that to miss stinkpuss I had to ditch last month

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Anonymous OP 21h

also let’s just discuss the fact that the vagina is a MUSCLE. whether or not the guy pulls out before a woman becomes pregnant, the vagina retracts to the same size it was before insertion. the vagina before and after sex would feel the same because it’s a MUSCLE. it doesn’t just continue to get bigger. like u said these men need a bio lesson 🤦🏻‍♀️

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Anonymous #11 21h

Also if u knew basic biology youd know women also have outer hardward and that is often the only way women can cum. Sex is always going yo be more than just penetration

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Anonymous #16 21h

Why don’t you want her to have any experience prior to being with you? Why do you think being touched by other men degrades her? She’s a person

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Anonymous #16 21h

and both of those are 100% fair reasons in the partner you choose. the problem that most woman are getting at is the hypocrisy. men are stereotypically praised for getting with as many females as possible, but if a woman were to do that she is slut shamed. it’s okay to have personal standards, what isn’t okay is to shame someone who doesn’t or not hold yourself to the same standards your preaching

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Anonymous #11 21h

Stis are different but the idea of being “stretches out” is tired and misogynistic

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Anonymous OP 21h

*stretched

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Anonymous OP 21h

Then you should have specified that in your post which you didn’t and is why we are having this conversation. You made it seem like all men feel this way when they don’t and that people who want a virgin partner has malice intent behind it. You should have stated exactly what you told me as your post not what you originally stated

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Anonymous #18 21h

Its almost like i did specify that i was talking about the one way standard in probably 6+ comments and i have issues in general with the glorification of virginity but if u wanna respectfully debate and share ideas youre welcome to dm i just dont wanna get into it here

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Anonymous #15 21h

It’s just a double standard that men get in society over women. I don’t think you can really shame a man for being with multiple women.

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Anonymous #28 21h

Its only an issue when he doesnt hold himself to the same standard. Also, where is the line drawn if she had sex with one other person 3 years ago but shes otherwise prefect for him? Is she still off limits?

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Its very normal for a girl in her 20s to have been with 3 people?

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Anonymous OP 21h

Even if it was with committed relationship partners

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Anonymous OP 21h

I wouldn’t say very but it’s definitely not abnormal

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Anonymous #27 21h

I don’t think a woman not being a virgin degrades her. I just don’t think that if a man wants a woman who is a virgin, that it means he prefers little girls. To me idc if a woman is a virgin or not as long as she doesn’t have more than me. I have 2 so anymore than me and I find you to be less valuable as a dating partner. But that’s just my preference.

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Anonymous OP 21h

I disagree. But like i said it’s my preference

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Anonymous OP 21h

It's preferance. I think a women has all the right to think the same way. Though it may be difficult to find a virgin, doesn't make seeking wrong. Just because it's normalized to sleep around doesn't mean it's wrong to want purity. You get me? & also, just because one person has done wrong, doesn't mean they can’t want somebody who hasn't done that very thing. Just don't look at the people who don't align as less than. But as far as the line, to each is own.

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Anonymous #21 21h

Not you proving the point LMFAO

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Anonymous #28 21h

I guess i also just don’t understand the idea that having sex is a bad thing

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Anonymous OP 21h

it’s not having sex inherently, it’s having the highest form of physical intimacy with a high amount of people, lack of self control and respect

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Anonymous #16 21h

Ngl it just sounds like it’s a jealousy/ego thing for you, needing to have the higher number is so corny

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Anonymous #32 21h

Wtf kind of redpill conspiracies are you buying into because that’s not true😭

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Anonymous #32 20h

Quite possibly the most outrageous and dumb notification I’ve seen what😭😭

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Anonymous #19 20h

this is the EXACT point op is making and guys are saying “not all men think like this tho 😢😢”

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Anonymous #27 20h

I said MORE than me. Meaning we can have the same amount. Never said I had to have the higher number. If I haven’t been with more than 2 than neither should my partner.

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Anonymous #16 20h

Thinking it’s okay for you to have a higher number, but not okay for your partner to, is hypocritical and corny

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Anonymous #19 20h

So men having sex is something to be celebrated and women having sex is shameful? So women are objects to be used and discarded so you can have as much sex as you want while she suffers the social and sometimes physical and financial consequences?

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Anonymous #32 20h

What in the redpilled incel alpha bro

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Anonymous #27 20h

I don’t know if you can’t read or something, but I never stated that I had to have the higher number😂

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Anonymous #28 20h

& people need to stop equating preference to right and wrong. For example, just because a woman wants a man who is tall, doesn't mean she thinks it is wrong for a man to be short. If a man wants a women with little to no bodies, it doesn't mean he has to view other women as bad and disgusting, it can be an innocent preference, just like women liking taller men. People should stop avoiding sexual accountabiliy, both men and women.

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Anonymous #29 20h

But thats just a fancy way of saying sex? Like i can call eating the highest form of enjoying a culibary art but its still just eating? Sex means what you want it to mean it doesnt have to be this huge thinf

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Anonymous #32 20h

biochemically everyone forms a type of attachment through the act of sexual intercourse it’s not any different for women and men and it’s obviously different for every person and people clearly demonstrate the capability to move on anyway?

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Anonymous #16 20h

Okay so you only want to date someone if they have the exact same number as you, nothing any higher or lower?

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Anonymous OP 20h

See but like I don’t think wanting a virgin falls into that same category. Because the reasons a man would want a skinny hairless docile wife are pretty much all disgusting, but the reasons a man might want a virgin range from disgusting to highly valuable and spiritual depending wildly on the person. Men who want virgins despite not being one are clinging to this dumb misogynistic idea that women are supposed to be “pure” for men, which is really not in the same category as all that other stuff

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Anonymous #27 20h

The same or lower.

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Anonymous OP 20h

Like I do think infantilization of women/wanting a woman as young as possible is a huge problem. I just don’t think the virginity conversation is part of that issue—I think it’s largely separated. They may overlap occasionally for some people but by and large there’s so much else at play in both conversations that I don’t think it’s useful to make them a single point, y’know? But I don’t disagree with you.

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Anonymous #16 20h

Okay so like I said, you thinking it’s okay for you to have a higher number but not your partner is so hypocritical and screams insecurity

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Anonymous #34 20h

Well 1) im a lesbian and 2) ive been with the same person for 4 years and 3) my body count is 2

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Anonymous OP 20h

I just dont like men and i think most of their preferences are hypocritical and/or pedophillic and i hate to see beautiful women settling for men who suck

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Anonymous #27 20h

I wouldn’t date someone that has been with more partners than I have 😂 it’s not insecurity it’s my preference. You don’t have to like it lol y’all aren’t gonna force me to accept a high body count just because you have one or you would lol

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Anonymous #2 20h

adults have sex. most virgins are younger. unless you’ve both haven’t had sex, it’s weird to be a 25 yr old man expecting a virgin.

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Anonymous #16 20h

Why do you have that preference though? I think if you really asked yourself that you’d find out beneath all this is insecurity and jealousy

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Anonymous OP 20h

Why are you equating virginity with whether or not the hymen is intact? As you say, that can be torn any number of ways. Being a virgin is choosing to abstain from sex. Quit shaming people for that choice.

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Anonymous #27 20h

Because I simply don’t want a partner that has been intimate with a lot of people. Sex is a connector and naturally increases feelings emotionally and spiritually. It’s also in your most vulnerable state. I don’t want to be with someone who has experienced that with a lot of people. It’s my standard. Has nothing to do with insecurity lol

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Anonymous #16 20h

If it had nothing to do with insecurity then you would be holding yourself to the same standard. I understand wanting someone inexperienced if you’re also inexperienced as like a comfort thing, but you’re saying your partners shouldn’t have any more experience than you based on just a number which is clearly an ego thing. I hope you can dig deeper eventually and improve this double standard

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Anonymous #6 20h

i’m with you on the obedient part but hairless imo is a bit different

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Anonymous #11 20h

If you seriously believe having sex ruins vaginas, you need to get off manosphere twitter and get in a sex ed class

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Anonymous #27 20h

I don’t plan to and the more partners does not equal more experience btw. A person with 1 body can have just as much as someone with 5. I have two bodies and someone with one can be more experienced based on what they’ve learned with that 1 partner

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Anonymous #27 19h

And if a woman wouldn’t date me because 2 is too high for them than that’s fine😂 the dating world is completely preferable to a person’s standards. That’s exactly why we have a choice in the first place

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Anonymous #37 19h

hairlessness is just another arbitrary beauty standard forced upon women and not men 🤷‍♀️ shaving didn't become a thing til the 1900s with gillete's marketing campaigns. the only naturally hairless humans (with no medical conditions) are prepubescent children.

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Anonymous OP 19h

the problem with today’s society is precisely that: it has become normal to have casual sex with multiple people, and it’s a perfect example of how modern-day feminism is intentionally destroying the family structure, the most fundamental building block of civilization. the fact that it is at all socially acceptable to sleep with multiple people prior to marriage is incredibly backwards and will lead to our demise as a society if not amended immediately.

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Anonymous #40 18h

Back when playboy was based

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Anonymous #41 18h

men have been sleeping around for the entirety of human existence btw. in many cultures men literally took multiple wives, and women are the ones destroying the “family structure” that is sooo important to life?? (it’s also not youre just brainwashed by western propaganda). feminism fights for women to not get slut shamed for having past experiences.

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Anonymous #7 18h

Yes

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Anonymous #14 18h

So what! I can demand anything I want and be as selective as I want when I chose to date somebody

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Anonymous OP 18h

Have you ever heard of the term manwhore? The social consequences go both ways. Maybe you need better friends if you think this the way the majority of people act

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Anonymous OP 18h

You haven’t gotten laid in a while and it’s showing

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Anonymous #34 18h

Yeah I’ve read through these comments and this is what I’m gathering

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Anonymous #41 18h

yeah i was waiting for someone to say some dumb shit like this. completely ahistorical bs. people are having less sex, casual or otherwise, than ever before, you can look this up but i’m confident you have seen the headlines. it’s never been the case that people weren’t having casual sex. hell, brothels were probably more popular in the time periods you’re romanticizing. the nuclear family is just one of many possible and perfectly viable family structures, and it’s a new one at that.

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Anonymous OP 18h

Same person for four years is a miracle that’s just not realistic in today’s society and it is both genders faults

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Anonymous #45 18h

The amount of sex you have or don’t have doesn’t determine your worth as a person, I find it weird that men make assumptions like this when they feel offended

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Anonymous #47 18h

Im a man, im not saving myself for marriage, but i save myself for at least 1 year of dating. I also don’t tell them i have a timeframe to avoid “waiting down the clock.” I think this is the best practice for having self restraint if you’re not spiritual

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You're literally a pdfile LOL

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Anonymous #42 18h

yeah that’s a good take. i’m christian but i just never wanted to wait for marriage i guess, i think sex can be a really special part of a relationship i just want to trust someone first, but atp i think the next man i trust might just be my husband

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Anonymous #47 18h

Yeah I agree that sex is a large part of relationship, I definitely wouldn’t want the weird “ok we’re married, let’s sex😈😈” which is why I keep it the way I do. Keeps you from being 3-5 bodies to maybe 1 or 2 if unlucky

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Anonymous #30 18h

This is clearly not what we are talking, nice rage bait

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Anonymous #11 18h

scientifically inaccurate argue with my cock and balls about it

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Anonymous #46 18h

W rage bait 🤣🤣🤣

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Anonymous #4 18h

Why is this getting downvoted😭😭

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Anonymous #46 18h

Neanderthal? For having values you disagree with?

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Anonymous #50 17h

I literally wish i could ss this and send it to your mom how some of yall talk about women

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Anonymous #38 17h

Holy airball im literally a lesbian in a 4 year relationship

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Anonymous #49 17h

Yeah and thats fine bc youre holding yourself to the same standard ive said that like 8 times atp

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Anonymous #39 17h

Yeah dude

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Anonymous #42 17h

Like- thats terrible that it happened but it has nothing to do with the topic because that doesnt count and shouldnt factor into anyone’s perceived purity or worth

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Anonymous #16 17h

I said this 3 times but 1)lesbian 2) 4 year relationship 3) body count of 2 4) just dont like men

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Anonymous #45 17h

1) lesbian 2) body count of 2 3) 4 year committed relationship 4) slut shaming makes women feel worse i promise i dont gaf if you wanna be a virgin i just dont think men should control you

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Anonymous #19 17h

Yesterday actually

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Anonymous #19 17h

Also get ratioed

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Anonymous #42 17h

Manwhore is not a serious term with genuine social consequences like slut and whore are and if you think they are you should talk to a woman ❤️

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Anonymous #51 17h

Okay but why do you have those preferences

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Anonymous #19 17h

Yeah in just saying its not that im “ran through” its just that i dont like seeing guys treat women like shit and hold a double standard

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Anonymous #14 17h

Yall wouldnt know anything “biochemically” if it slapped you do your research somewhere other than facebook and the bible

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Anonymous #53 17h

Respectfully, adulthood is different for everyone and your sexual history (or lack thereof) has nothing to do with your age

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Anonymous OP 17h

It lowkey doesn't matter. I can't speak for everyone, in the same way that you don't have the right to arbitrate people's choices. The way rad fems have chosen to die on the hill of stigmatizing men dating any women other than 30+ y/o single moms is bizarre, and you can't win.

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Anonymous OP 17h

That was for 27 not 14 sorry

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Anonymous OP 17h

Also I am not a player so there are no double standards coming from me. On that, I agree: it would be odd to demand something which you didn't do yourself.

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Anonymous OP 17h

Wait then why do you even give a shit lmao?

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Anonymous #53 17h

Okay but take that to the extreme to the same degree as hairless and skinny- the standard is prepubescent… most people are having sex after puberty

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Anonymous OP 17h

So in that way yes, not being a virgin is mostly associated woth either thw very religous or children. If they are very religous the stabdard should be applied both ways

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Anonymous #51 17h

I dont care if you date a consenting adult but if u only like tiny hairless virgin women im gonna throw up a few redflags

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Anonymous OP 17h

Thats all im saying

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Anonymous #52 17h

God forbid i just am a hater and wanna protect women

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Anonymous OP 17h

I like thiccness and bushes... we're good

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Anonymous #51 16h

Word me too

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Anonymous OP 16h

🤝

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Anonymous OP 16h

Lmao

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Anonymous #52 15h

Is the concept of caring about people other than yourself that foreign to you

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Anonymous OP 15h

I too love spreading misinformation

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Anonymous #42 14h

probably because it’s calling somebody ran through?

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Anonymous #54 14h

A fact is a fact?

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Anonymous #42 13h

no, you’re just being rude

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Anonymous OP 13h

unfortunately the fact is there ARE people who perceive those who’ve been raped or sexually assaulted as no longer being virgins/as a sort of “damaged goods,” and it all stems from the same kind of bullshit as virginity being a thing in the first place. thankfully we’re moving away from that explicit attitude as a culture but i think people are just. still weird about this topic subconsciously from the way i see people talk about it sometimes

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Anonymous OP 13h

its so funny that i’ve seen you being accused of both having some exorbitant body count AND of not having enough sex it’s a great encapsulation of how you just cannot win as a woman

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Anonymous #2 12h

i was gonna give a more well reasoned answer but yeah actually. for having values i disagree with. that’s the long and short of it. not that there are people just spewing the same ahistorical, scientifically inaccurate, irrational bs ideas that have been around since before we even had proper plumbing and which have been disapproved, it’s just cause people disagree with me personally.

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so what exactly is pedophilic about what i’ve said.

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Anonymous #56 11h

I don’t understand this response. She won’t know if I’m doing something weird/wrong unless she has sex with others first???

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Anonymous #40 10h

yea some people think that. some don’t. i think both genders should shave as a cleanly norm. hair traps germs and gunk. trim it or shave it. -a dude

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Anonymous #37 10h

Okay literally!! I shave everyday for sensory reasons and people always view it weird

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Anonymous #54 10h

Yeah? How else would she know? It’s very rare for sex education to be super comprehensive

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Anonymous #56 10h

She’d know by learning with me??? Why would i want her to learn with someone else??????

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Anonymous #54 8h

i think there’s nuance to either side of this particular argument but the point is that while YOU might care about your partner and her pleasure, be open and willing to learn how to better/best pleasure her (from her), there are women who end up with men who AREN’T like this and because they don’t have any prior experience they might think (or be led to believe) that sex is just supposed to be unpleasurable for them, that they don’t have a say in it, or that it’s their fault if it’s that way

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Anonymous OP 8h

the double standards make me SO mad. also the fact that half the dating pool looks down on virgins like crazy and will only chase girls who put out, but then turn right around and say non virgins aren’t wife material??? don’t even get me started on men thinking that if you’re hot & friendly you’re automatically getting with everyone even if you ARE a virgin. you can’t win

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Anonymous #46 8h

that’s why some people are saying it’s a bit weird and can also be this sign of a potentially controlling, insecure and mediocre man. a woman with experience is a woman who can potentially be more discerning and demanding/assertive about her own wants and needs, who can and will leave for better, rather than setting herself aside and settling for a man who doesn’t actually care about her beyond her capacity to pleasure and serve him and him alone.

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Anonymous #46 8h

and you might be like “oh who is actually thinking like this” it’s. the andrew tate types amongst others. like you will actually see these alpha male podcaster bros talking about wanting young women explicitly because of their lack of knowledge/experience, so that they can “mold” and “train” them like they’re fucking dogs. nb4 “well those are the extremes” those extremes made their way into fucking elementary and middle school classrooms, and the ideas they’re parroting aren’t even new

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Anonymous #46 8h

that said i don’t think you Have to have had sex in order to get to know your own body and what you loke and dislike, and how to communicate that to your partner(s). there are resources out there for learning these things and you can explore your own body. but it is Also true that we live in a society with bad sex ed and which is weird about sexual exploration and which often tells women to set their own pleasure aside, be ashamed of it, act like it doesn’t exist, etc. soooo

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