Anonymous OP 7w

And they should NOT be allowed anywhere near the government and how laws should be written. Never.

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Anonymous #2 7w

Don’t think being against abrahamic religions makes you antisemitic. You kinda diminish the power that word has when you throw it around like that

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Anonymous #1 7w

Yeah, we should just be against the one

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Anonymous #1 7w

You understand Abraham was Jewish right

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Anonymous #2 7w

He wasn’t, Judaism split off of that religion about 2000 years ago. What he and Jesus were would be called Christianity now. Modern Judaism didn’t exist

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Anonymous #5 7w

religion was for when we didn’t have answers but now we do. it’s mythology

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Anonymous OP 7w

i mean religion serves an important social role in bringing people together (for example, many people hating someone brings those people together) but people downplaying the harm organized religion does to people cannot be reasoned with most of the time

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Anonymous #6 7w

Join a bingo club. That bring people together with a minimized risk of children being preyed upon by priests

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Anonymous #3 7w

Because we don’t practice Jewish beliefs?

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Anonymous #4 7w

How so? Because it doesn’t align with your beliefs and what you’re immersed into?

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Anonymous #6 7w

Religion also justifies certain actions and social norms, which can cause divide.. as we are seeing now

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Anonymous #6 7w

yes especially mormons hating black ppl and saying our skin color is a punishment 😍😍😍😍 definitely brings EVERYONE together

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Anonymous #8 7w

Science will though. The idea of God is always changing and ideas through society is constantly shifting. But, I’m sure there’s a higher power out there.

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Anonymous #8 7w

People in cults typically don’t leave so that makes sense! Luckily for us cult numbers are dwindling

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Anonymous #3 7w

However, Christianity didn’t exist during Jesus’s time nor Paul’s. Jesus was a Jewish teacher.

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Anonymous #7 7w

christians are so afraid of acknowledging that their little figurehead was jewish 🙄

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Anonymous #6 7w

Seriously! I even bring up the fact the plaque on his cross said “king of the Jews” and he taught in synagogues. Christians don’t attend synagogues 😂. That info seems to shut them up.

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Anonymous #7 7w

no. the idea that all religion has ever done is cause harm to innocent people is just a braindead take

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Anonymous #4 7w

Fair point. It has its pros and cons 🤷‍♂️

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Anonymous #4 7w

A lot of people have been killed, robbed, and raped in the name of god. Seems like the world would had been better off without it

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Anonymous #1 7w

The world is better off without killing robbing and raping sure. Anyone can do those things “in the name of anything”, that doesn’t make the thing apparently bad. If I say I am going to rob a store in the name of you, does that make you a bad person?

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Anonymous #4 7w

I’m not in charge of one of the largest international org’s who has authority to command people. I think your example is a little different than the crusades or say what Israel is doing

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Anonymous #1 7w

People, sadly, also do that of their own secular beliefs. I’m not heavy into religion, however I can say for many people it has offered positive aspects including, but not limited to, hope, purpose, guidance (towards positive things), self empowerment and humility. They’ve only brought bad that people would soon bring upon themselves. Wars would happen regardless; religion just became large enough for us to cite them as religious rather than rooted in contemporaneous politics age human nature.

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Anonymous #9 7w

*and (not age) There are many people who are religious, Abrahamic faith or not, who live peaceful lives, possibly egg focusing on enriching the lives of others

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Anonymous #7 7w

That’s not true silly. If that was the case, religion would’ve been dissolved decades ago. Yet it persists. Because religion is not simply the antithesis of science. It’s deeply rooted in psychological and sociological frameworks as well. And religion isn’t just this rigid unforgiving structure you guys make it out to be. There is no one way to “be religious,” so I suggest you guys stop trying to make it that way. Some religions can be more open ended and interpretive rather than as-is.

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Anonymous #8 7w

Interesting, so the “Christian” God branches from the “Jewish” God, two totally different frameworks yet both are stated as being “the word of God”. Not only that, how had science proven that a man, Jesus who was a Jewish teacher, can also be divine? You see, the interpretation that Jesus is God didn’t even exist before he was even born. So now you have a framework to praise God alone, and another where you can’t get through heaven without believing in Jesus as your savior—different ideas on God

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Anonymous #10 7w

Yep. It’s such a double standard and they know it. They are here arguing and telling me I’m the one who’s wrong but I’m not the one that’s delusional and I’m using my free speech the same way that they are so why is it wrong for me to exercise that freedom? Haha it’s ironic isn’t it? Atheism isn’t the concept that separates people, it’s religion that has always been doing that through human history. Why are we supposed to feel separated? The brainwashing is instilled within their minds.

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Anonymous #9 7w

Last thing, people fight over beliefs not religion. Religion is a form in which it comes, but the conflict is always beliefs. You can see this in politics, everyday interactions and altercations, etc. Why do people protest against police brutality? This conflict isn't religion, it's what people believe to be right and wrong. To solve the issue you cite as being caused by religion, we would just have to get rid of all beliefs. As long as humans exist, we will fight over beliefs, whatever form.

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Anonymous #8 7w

Ideas don’t dissolve overnight. It took Christianity decades to spread and become the way it does now.

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Anonymous #3 7w

I’m not the one who’s succumbing to a false sense of security and relying on an unreliable “higher power” to teach me basic concepts such as morals.

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Anonymous #1 7w

How does you not being in charge of one of the largest international orgs change anything I said? Religion itself isn’t the problem. People can use anything for evil.

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Anonymous #4 7w

People who need religion to cope the world are weak idk. They just realize the world is ran by pedophile billionaires like the rest of us. Not by some omnipresent being allowing these pedophile billionaires to control us

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Anonymous #1 7w

y’all realize that #6 was literally agreeing with you guys 😭

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Anonymous #11 7w

I disagree with the statement that ‘religion serves an important social role of bringing people together’. There are numerous other ways of bringing people together that don’t involve cult practices

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Anonymous #1 7w

Thinking religion is just a coping mechanism is weak. Also not everyone realizes the world is ran by pedophile billionaires.

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Anonymous #1 7w

I’m confused why everyone thinks they weren’t being sarcastic when they gave the dictionary definition of tribalism x_x if they were being serious they would’ve phrased it differently

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Anonymous #1 7w

also they clearly don’t support religion if they say that it brings people together through hate 😭✌️

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Anonymous #5 7w

all of those forms of oppression weren’t created by Abrahamic religions, they were perpetuated by it. and you say it “contradicts modern day science,” but that’s only true for fundamentalists. these criticisms are extremely misinformed and distract from the genuine issues with Abrahamic religions.

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Anonymous #10 7w

evangelism is often used as an excuse to harass others so many people are understandably hostile when it’s brought up as an objective truth

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Anonymous #1 7w

attacking people for their beliefs when it doesn’t affect you is genuinely hypocritical when one of the main criticisms on Abrahamic religions is evangelism. if you’re going to criticize religion, do so without perpetuating harmful rhetoric.

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Anonymous #7 7w

there is much of the universe outside our understanding. I personally know a Christian physics professor who studies dark matter and energy since it’s a tangible example of the intangible. It’s proof that there’s more we don’t understand. Science doesn’t “disprove” Christianity, and those who believe it does are ignorant, whether they’re religious or not.

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Anonymous #7 7w

also can we focus on the actual issues with many of those who practice Abrahamic religions? calling out oppression and discrimination is more important than acting like you can “disprove” a spiritual belief system.

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Anonymous #2 7w

Love how Jews find a way to make it abt themselves 😭

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Anonymous #11 7w

We go to Isu there’s not much thinking involved

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Anonymous #13 7w

this is a nationwide community but by coincidence I go to rose hulman

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Anonymous #11 7w

Science doesn’t disprove religion or God, no but saying ideas don’t change through society while stating sociology is funny because that’s why there’s so many denominations and in the first place. Also, we can state professors all day, as I study social behavioral sciences and my clinical professor could for sure tell you how Shiva helped someone out the other day 😂

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Anonymous #11 7w

Yes we can focus on them. Those beliefs were interpretations by the Jewish people—their own fears. Paul removed the Jewish law and universalized it. The Roman Empire instituted Jesus’s teachings for control and authority, Christianity was brought over to the Americas, etc. back then if you disagreed with authority, you’d literally be killed. Instead of killings in today’s world, it’s just shame instead and conformity.

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Anonymous #11 7w

I was disproving it? I was saying that religion does shift over time and could decrease. Doesn’t make it false, there’s just more and more studies trying to figure out with tools we didn’t have back 2000 years ago.

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