Anonymous #1 14w

If anyone is curious why, I can explain if anyone wants to know

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Anonymous #1 14w

The world shames females for being openly sexual or interested in certain sexual things much more than it shames men for being uninterested in sex though, assuming you’re talking about a lack of interest

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Anonymous OP 14w

Meant to say males instead of men mb

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Anonymous OP 14w

Nah I’m not talking about lack of interest at all. The sexuality of women has been a primary theme of pop culture in recent years which initially seems great, but then it got to a point where it wasn’t just about being equal with men, it was also making pushes to put men down. It’s kinda the same concept as feminism vs neofeminism. One supports and fights for equality while the other fights for superiority, and I think we’ve gotten to the point in pop culture where that scale has shifted

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Anonymous #1 14w

Think about Chappell Roan’s hits. A lot of them are about the sexuality of women and expressing it, so I wouldn’t say that there’s a lack of representation for women’s sexuality in culture right now at all. Hookup culture also very much so allows women to be more free than men, but men don’t comment on hookups a lot so the culture is talked about a lot more by women, making it seem like it’s just a “men are fucking around” problem when it’s really not

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Anonymous #1 14w

Granted I think it’s good that bad men are being forced to have more responsibility than they did before, but I think “fuck lying cheating men” being turned into “fuck ALL men” is definitely not ideal and it just creates toxicity in society and widens the unnecessary rift between men and women

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Anonymous #1 14w

Because indeed, fuck all lying cheating men, but not all men are lying cheating men

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Anonymous #1 14w

Men have always been seen as the superior and have always been putting women down, so I don’t really see the issue with women putting men down in pop culture, if it’s that big of an issue then men should hold each other accountable for doing it to women. But that’s not even what my post is about so idk what you’re talking about, if cis men were put down as much as you say they are then I wouldn’t be feeling so ashamed about my sexuality as a female person

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Anonymous #1 14w

I don’t think people realize this is the same argument racists use when they say “not all ___ but always a ___”, and I think we can all agree that’s a very harmful mindset

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Anonymous OP 14w

I can’t even vent about my struggles to accept my sexuality without a man using it as an invitation to rant about feminism and “not all men” out of nowhere, I don’t know what I was expecting

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Anonymous OP 14w

I don’t think a lot of women realize this, but men very much so DO hold each other accountable. We beat the shit out of our friends if we find out they cheated. They get excommunicated. There’s just a very small, loud, fraction of people who follow the cultish superiority views of people like Andrew Tate who make themselves much more present in society than the average man since they crave attention and power. Put down THOSE men, not ALL men. Why should every man suffer for a few men’s evil acts

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Anonymous OP 14w

And because you brought up chappel, even when she expresses sexuality as a female person she gets hate for it, by men AND the lesbian community as well, she recently dressed as a blow up doll as a joke and got so much hate for it because women/females are expected to not objectify themselves especially if they’re queer and the objectification can be seen as having any relationship to men/males

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Anonymous OP 14w

If pop culture makes one group superior, that just creates and fuels an extremist group that disagrees. That’s why equality is healthier for society than one group trying to get revenge. Revenge always comes back to bite

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Anonymous OP 14w

Well yeah, rich people who are out of touch don’t represent everyone in society. However, they do create the ideals that then spread throughout society since they’re the ones who get the publicity instead of a random collection of average people who represent the population

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Anonymous #1 14w

If you only came here to comment about hating feminism and how it’s not all men that are bad then please leave because that’s not what my post is about at all

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Anonymous OP 14w

We know not all men are rapists or whatever and the men who aren’t bad people don’t get this worked up over women who say they hate men

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Anonymous OP 14w

I didn’t say I hated feminism. If you scroll up you’ll see that I stated plainly that I support it

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Anonymous OP 14w

I’m not worked up, I’m just explaining my point of view since it seems people assume a lot of untrue things about men

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Anonymous #2 14w

Yeah, especially for kinks too, I feel like it’s becoming a bit more acceptable for females to enjoy self pleasure but there’s still so much stigma around them in kink/fetish spaces which is most of what I have an interest in so I’m like 😔

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Anonymous #2 14w

I’m genuinely confused how you guys feel this way. The whole sex toy market is targeted at women and men are completely shamed for self pleasuring or using toys. So either we’re equally shamed or men are shamed more

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Anonymous OP 14w

i completely agree sm about kink/fetish spaces!! me and my bf have been dating for 3 years and i feel like im still scared to bring stuff up even though almost every time he’s happy to talk about it

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Anonymous #1 14w

Females are also shamed for having sex toys, it’s actually very common for women to be shamed by their boyfriends for wanting to use toys on themselves, and by strangers who believe women they’ll never meet shouldn’t spend their own money on toys

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Anonymous #1 14w

i feel like it’s always been more of a social thing then tv and stuff for me? like guys always joked and almost bonded about self pleasure in a way and it’s seen as like a normal thing to expect while i was never even told that self pleasure for women was a thing until i randomly found it one day idk i feel like guys are more taught about it than women? which makes us think we can’t talk about it. that’s been my experience

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Anonymous #2 14w

I’m not in a relationship but I can relate, my male friends and I are open about our sexualities and they’re very encouraging and supportive of my weird sexual interests but I STILL feel super self conscious any time I even think about opening up to the level they do, I’m very jealous of their confidence and acceptance in society

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Anonymous OP 14w

omg yes! i feel like whenever im hanging out with a lot of guys they’ll joke about jerking off earlier in the day but i couldn’t imagine making the same joke

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Anonymous #2 14w

What in the world. Who are you hanging around? Most of us avoid those people because we’ve learned that they’re usually those types of bad men who take advantage of women 💀

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Anonymous #1 14w

Ngl what I’ve realized from reading all this is that it’s not a man or woman issue. Society as a whole just still doesn’t allow people to express sexuality fully and that negatively affects both men and women

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Anonymous #1 14w

my friends making sex jokes?

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