I met my totally platonic straight male best friend while he was my barista. We’re genuinely close without either of us having feelings. We’ve both been single and taken at the same and different times and nothing changes. Idk how yall can catch feelings for a guy best friend after already knowing his flaws in a relationship and vise versa
It’s easy for you to say when the male scene is the loneliest thing you could ever be a part of. Unless you’re homosexual. I’ve been told I’m fairly attractive, but my low self confidence makes it extremely difficult to hold relationships and when it’s this lonely it’s tough not to catch feelings for a woman who finally shows some attention and interest in my life.
because the depth of friendship that a woman is used to is more than the depth of friendship that a man has with a man. this makes men think that women want to have sex with them because a woman is being “overly friendly” in their eyes, when the woman is just being a normal level of friendliness
Let’s understand 2 things. 1. It’s normal to have feelings and express that for your friend because it happens lots of times. Either you can try to pursue them or keep it to yourself it’s that simple. If they decide they can’t move on due to their feelings then call it a day and find someone else. Men don’t play about their feelings. 2. Remember to have good physical boundaries in friendships, like not always touching everytime you hangout or all over eachother at night. Physical touch is a big-
Yeah the men you surrounded yourself and not get to fullyyyyy know them tend to act like a friend till they get close enough to the point where they get you to fold I have had friends who have done it to my friends who are girls mind you I’m a man so yeah hopefully it does come of weird or rude of what I said
This is such an interesting post - why are u craving a platonic male friendship with a straight make as a woman. Imo, straight men have many purposes in life but one of them isnt to be platonically friends w woman. One is always gonna be in love and the other doesnt gaf. Find a gbf or a good group of girl friends. Men are evil girl we use them for dick and love
And if there are feelings, but both people value the friendship enough to look past the feelings, it can be maintained. If a guy just wants to have sex with you, he most likely didn’t value the friendship all that much, but I think a lot of women miss out on the fact that the feelings are real. When guys catch feelings for their girl friends, there’s nothing nefarious about it. It’s hard, people should be more sympathetic about that
I’m not saying every straight man wants to fuck their female friend. It’s possible for them to be purely platonic. But at the same time how many marriages and relationships form from people just being friends or aquaintences and evolving into something more. If you think that’s literally impossible you’re being quite fence and immature ngl. Obviously guys who only are friends to smash are bad, no one’s disputing that. This a “I like pancakes, oh so you hate waffles?” ass response 😭
Like most straight men are not good people, lack empathy, and barely make good partners. So why the hell would you ever voluntarily want one as a “friend?” Dick, love, and gifts are all they’re really good for. Women and gay men are much more interesting and genuine friends to have
Because you know, people are people. I don’t think we’re as different as you think we are. I don’t look at women and go “why should she be in my life if we’re not fucking”, and as a result I have many incredible platonic friendships with women, they are very important to me. And many of these women have other platonic male friends as well. Not saying you NEED guy friends, but you definitely shouldn’t just look at the opposite sex as sex objects either that’s pretty disgusting
No I came out of a woman just like everyone else. But I do think what informed my view was having female friends from a young age. I think if more people had these connections from a younger age, or really just in general, there would be much more understanding and less disrespect between men and women. I’m sorry you struggle to find good men in your life, but that gives you no right to reduce half of the population to using for sex 🤮
Reason why men be falling for girls because some of yall way too touchy, that’s something ive noticed. Besides that well the only thing left is your male friend wanting to fuck you. Either take the opportunity or cut them off its that simple. Girls do it to so its understandable why but just tell people no. Some girls be too good of a person and too attractive to not have feelings for so yeah, it gets in the way. Friendship is always possible with good boundaries though.
As dumb as this sounds it’s a good point though, most people do have negative experiences with the opposite sex. But letting that enable you to “use” people is stupid. You’re toxic and got hurt and never healed. Understandably so but with that mindset you should never be mad about using a man.
You can’t really arguw with a personal experience because according to them it’s true. Is it universal? No, but they have given up and decided to live life their way, by using people. Basically she sounds like a incel or loser playboy who says all women suck or don’t really want me.
i refuse to miss out on so many great friendships just because a few select people think that being friends with people of the opposite sex will inherently lead to romance. it’s just simply untrue for me, and if others choose to see the sex that they’re attracted to that way then that’s a them problem tbh
This is not a good mindset. The whole point of this is that OP is desiring healthy platonic relationships with some men, not any or all men, and obviously don’t have many/any at the moment because she is having a hard time finding men able to handle friendships with women. To say that straight men have no purpose in women’s lives other than gifts and sex is actually so toxic. They have place as fathers, friends, brothers, coworkers, etc. and to minimize the use or place of a whole group is wrong
Not everyone is worthy or trust and relationships and straight white cis middle/upper class healthy men can definitely lack experience and sympathy or empathy but suffering doesn’t make someone good, it just makes for more shared experience with others which can help build connections with strangers. But even then you still don’t know what kind of person he is because everyone is an individual and should be judged as such.
I’ve had so many bad experiences with men and I’m not one to trust strangers by any means, but I still desire to have platonic relationships with men. Because having men as friends is really nice. It provides a very comfortable environment to exist in for me because I know I don’t have to worry about being sexually harassed or assaulted since the guys around me would beat the person up, and I know if I need help moving there are people stronger than me who can help, and I get to hear about
A whole different experience in life and different bodies and how they work and get to share that with them in the same way. And they are just people, it’s just more friends and human connection. I’m not going to limit myself and judge others based on a factor they had no control over.
It’s something that I’ve realized since being friends with my bf’s roommates honestly. Like when I’m walking with a group of girls, I’ll get catcalled. But when there are guys in the group, I won’t. Same with guys getting way overly touchy with me. It’s a whole new level of safety that I never experienced before and while it’s men protecting me from other men, it doesn’t mean the good men are any less valuable because bad men exist, if that makes sense. Just some positives I’ve noticed
Oh yeah no I get what you mean, I continued on to say they are just people same as everyone else, but I was saying the other purposes and things they provide in relationships specifically for #55 to see they offer more than just what they listed and not that that’s how I view them. I don’t view relationships with people by what they explicitly give me or provide, but I know some other people do.
Yes you’re right. I think, and again I don’t think this is exclusive to men at all, people are A. More naturally drawn to people they find attractive m, and B. Relate more on a subconscious level to people of similar “levels of attractiveness” by conventional standards. But people differ and vary, this is by no means universal
Dating isn’t just “I find them physically attractive” it has much more to do with their personality and values and beliefs and habits. Like if you believe that if you find someone attractive, you have to be interested in dating them or having a romantic or sexual relationship, then I feel like you’re missing the point of what dating is.
The og post was NOT about dating. Obviously when u commit to dating someone there are many other facts to consider. They were talking about just catching FEELINGS for your friends. And if u like someone enough to be friends with them, that means there is a specific aspect of their personality that makes you want to be around them (unless your like a fake friend for whatever reason) Now, let’s say you find them attractive as well. That will 100% lead to romantic feelings
Oh yea for sure. I’m just replying to the og post who said she wants to find friends that don’t end up catching feelings and just was explaining why it happens. It’s for sure something that can be controlled tho ur right. The ppl the the replies acting like it can’t be controlled are stupid
Yeah but you said specifically that you have to find the person specifically physically unattractive to be able to maintain a platonic relationship with the other. I said I can find someone attractive physically but not emotionally and therefore have no romantic feelings towards them, because I don’t have the same emotional standards and expectations for my friends as I do my partners. It’s not just to enjoy their company, it’s that we have to have the same life goals, morals, desires etc.
So friend that is attractive ≠ someone I want to date/have romantic feelings about. That’s the whole point. I’m attracted to women too and yet although I love my friends and they are very pretty, I wouldn’t want to date them either (by “want to date” I mean having a desire for a romantic and/or sexual relationship with).
When you catch feelings for someone your not fkn catching feelings on the basis of “does this guy wanna live in the same state as me in 10 years” like what 😭 catching feelings is just having a fkn crush. You think about that stuff when u dead ass wanna date them u don’t stop being crushing on someone because your future jobs are incompatible or some shit like what 😭
Bro, I JUST SAID im not talking about dating and neither was the og commenter. And my standard of physically attractiveness is if you would feel sexual attraction to that person. If your a straight girl you don’t find your girlfriends attractive to YOURSELF, your just thinking they are conventionally attractive
When have I been talking about actions? Never once did I say u can’t control your actions, legit read my other replies to other ppl under this thread. The og commenter was talking about “catching feelings” that’s the only thing im referring to, you brought up dating which is not what im talking about
Did I say that? By life goals, I mean literally like if my friend has zero life goals or direction in life I don’t care, but if I was dating them I would loose all feelings. Like there are things you can accept in a friendship that you wouldn’t want to have when in a relationship that just stop romantic feelings.
And I’ve said it before but I’ll say it again, when I say that my friends are attractive or pretty, I am not saying conventionally, I am saying that I personally find them attractive. If other factors were different I would have been interested in them. However, since those other factors (which I’ve been explaining) are as they are, even though I find them physically attractive, I don’t have romantic feelings for them.
Your parenthesis is legit the definition of wanting to date someone. When you want to date someone you WANT to have a romantic or a sexual relationship with them. What other definition is there? I’m saying those romantic, or sexual feelings CAN most likely exist with friends you find attractive, howber, you may or MAY not want to ACT on it ( which you phrased as wanting to date, or having the desire to which I said so many times is not what im referring to im simply referring to the feeling
All im saying. Is that in your scenarios, if you TRULY found someone attractive and TRULY enjoyed their friendship, those feelings would most likely develop. I think you don’t understand what I mean by finding someone attractive. Attraction in this case is sexual attraction. A straight girl can find her girlfriends attractive, not sexually attractive. When you say u “do it all the time” I think you don’t understand what feeling attracted to someone means or, you are friends with ppl u don’t like
It’s like crushing on a professor at school or college. You find them attractive and like their personality, but you don’t ACTUALLY want to date them or show romantic interest bc of a million other relevant aspects. But that feeling of having a “crush” is still there. Does that make sense
Yes, not all but yeah, I find some of my friends sexually attractive but don’t have feelings for them. They can be my type physically but not emotionally or like the vibe. Like when people talk about icks. They aren’t saying they don’t like the person but they loose feelings based on small actions. I can be friends with people I enjoy being around and that are physically attractive to me without having those kinds of feelings for them.
Also physical attraction doesn’t just involve wanting sex or sexual desire or anything, there is romance in physical attraction, like dancing in the rain and kissing on the forehead type things. Like physical attraction includes other kinds of intimacy rather than just sex. Not that it’s an important distinction now, but just as a side note.
Ok. In my mind, a guy friend I’ve found sexually attractive in the past, if im hanging out with them and enjoying their company, in that moment I’ll crush on them (or catch feelings). It’s not something I’d want to pursue, or wish I could pursue bc of so many outside reasons I wouldn’t wanna date them, but I consider that moment of “crushing” as catching feelings
I think what they meant is biologically, our purpose is to produce offspring. Our liver exists to filter our blood, our blood exists to transport oxygen and keep our organs alive, we keep them alive bc we need to be healthy, we need to be healthy so we have a better chances and time to to find a partner, we find partners to produce kids. Like every science proves all organisms exist to just reproduce. And why? Who knows
It is, but sadly it happens almost every time I’ve ever tried to get a male friend. Some of them even slapped my ass, tried to kiss me, pinned me down (I’m 5’4” but also a black belt who’s trained with weapons so they regretted those) but I just wishhhhhh they could have some decency and respect me
Yes the skeleton of women was made to be able to have a babies skull pass through the pelvis and a mans upper body strength is for throwing things to protect the offspring Your appeal to ridicule does nothing for me. If you believe in evolution then it logically follows that every part of us only exists to better ensure reproducing and keeping the offspring alive
No one said it’s fine for women to be friends with men under false pretenses or that it’s fine to start hitting on them or anything. Personally, as a pansexual woman, I’ve had this experience with men & women but the men are worse bc they force their feelings on me and abandon the relationship all together if I refuse. The girls I still can stay friends with and they don’t do dramatic confessions or try to kiss me out of nowhere or assume I feel the same.
I don’t know if the experience is different for men when women hit on them after being friends, but I’ve had guy friends ghost an entire friend group after he got turned down after months of being close friends with everyone, and nothing of the sort has happened with women in our group. But if you share that experience with women, yeah it sucks and isn’t okay either.
Did you even listen to what #19 said? They said that they didn't find any of their friends sexually attractive. Do you even listen #65, or does everything go straight over your fucking head? I've been seeing all these replies, and chose to pry and step in bc it's not my place to do so, but here I am ig.