
Ya know I’ve owned animals for my whole life and i believe the WORST I’ve done to punish my dog was to “ground” her for an hour by locking her in the bathroom bc she nipped at my cat for jumping on the couch next to her.. then I gave her a very stern talkin to and she hasn’t done it again bc it broke her heart lol
I hunt for me, bc I need to eat. That’s not really abuse to me. I always do a clean kill not ones where you damage the animal. I prefer to hunt bc it’s affordable for than going to a grocery store and spending more for meat than what hunt. Hunting isn’t abusing an animal depending on how you kill them. I’m not going eating on veggies all my life bc I’m not vegan or vegetarian. I’m flexitarian
Actually for many breeds, it’s been shown that they recall an extended period of pack separation (1 hr in testing iirc from past training research) as a reason not to do something going forward. It’s how boundaries related to roughhousing and whatnot are taught- if you violate what’s deemed acceptable levels of nipping as a pup, you get lightly shunned by your group for a while. Dogs can remember a lot, for a long time, though it’s difficult to know where conscious v subconscious recall diverge
Idk dude. People gotta eat. You can hardly expect creatures that evolved as omnivores / primarily carnivores for their protein and most of their energy to just shift to not eating meat. That’s not really healthy. And besides that, it’s not entirely true that eating meat necessarily means animal exploitation.
You’re confusing tf out of me bro. I don’t understand your 1st or 3rd reply there As for the 2nd, I already went over this dude, you’re just ignoring what I said. Being a vegan isn’t healthy or for everyone. People have very different bodies and genetics. We evolved eating meat for hundreds of thousands of years my guy. And besides that, like I said above and like you’re kind of just ignoring, there’s nothing necessarily abusive about eating meat. I don’t understand the people that get so
I’m implying that just because someone isn’t vegan, doesn’t mean they support animal cruelty. Makeup, cars, your house prolly, all have animal byproduct in them. Do you support deforestation if you built a house? Do you support land being disrupted? No you don’t, and no I don’t. There are ethical ways to things and unethical. I eat meat but I do not support the cruelty of animals.
Being vegan is healthy for most people. You animal abusers just use that rhetoric as an excuse to continue being treatlerites. You never even try it out for yourselves. All the research shows that vegan diets have better health outcomes and longevity. Even if it didnt i still would be vegan bc i actually hate animal abuse, unlike you phonies
#20 you would not be a good fit working for a non profit vegan organization. Your to anger avergressive. You are acting exactly what you preach about hating” homophobes, racists and abuser”. Now you’re just calling the kettle black atp. Ik you’re not acting. Deep down you know showing how abuser act without realizing your doing. And preach about morals of good when doing the exact opposite pookie. Hopefully #20 you can actually go to work or roll around in grass.
Oh my you’re engineer? Aren’t you abusing the animals by using chemicals to create your ideas. I think you’re the clown 🤡 and maybe you should back to abusing the animals by creating destruction, fine ENGINNER that you are. Thank you for your imbecile feedback. Can dish it out but can’t swallow your biggot pride love that for you pookie.
#20 I genuinely applaud you for everything you’ve said. I’ve stopped trying with ppl like this bc it’s infuriating how hypocritical they are. Idk why it’s so hard for them to admit they support animal abuse. No you can’t claim to “love animals and hate animal cruelty” while simultaneously downing a McDonald’s burger. An animal was raised, tortured, and killed to be your lunch but yeah you totally “hate animal cruelty.” Like that definitely makes sense
So tell me, if you know you can cause the least unethical harm by not eating meat why do you do it at all? I’d much rather make one “donation to the kkk” rather than 3 every day. But also? No this metaphor is not at all similar. Having a phone is quite literally essential for living in society. If I didn’t have a phone I couldn’t contact my boss, have a job, contact my family across the world, educate myself politically etc. I don’t see how eating meat is required for any of those things
It’s ok I used to cope like this too when I ate meat. Until I realized, no eating meat isn’t essential for me. I’m privileged enough to live in a world where I can choose the plant based option and lo and behold it actually tastes really good and similar to meat! There’s no reason I have to be offended by vegetarians and try to defend myself. I really thought I did love animals as a meat eater. In truth, I was cognitively distancing myself from what actually happens to the animals I eat everyday
Nah I’m just telling the truth, we cognitively distance ourselves from the meat we eat all the time. Same reasons we call pig “pork” cow “beef” etc. We as humans want to believe we aren’t harming animals. We get mad at ppl telling us “no we don’t have to eat animals” because we really do want to believe what we’re doing is ok. You should watch some documentaries on cafos, genuinely changed my whole perspective. What they do is horrific and I’m positive you’d agree with me
I don’t think the circle of life ever intended for animals to be lined up, hung upside down, on a conveyor, with a saw at the end to cut off their heads. What about a cafo is the circle of life? Btw I’m not against self hunting for sustenance p*ssy bitch. It’s ok to take this stance, just don’t claim to be against animal cruelty dumbass
And how is that food processed dumbass? Are they being intentionally tortured? You’re cognitively distancing yourself here btw. Because you weren’t the one cutting off their head it never happened! No this meat at Walmart just appeared here magically, let’s cook it! You are contributing to their torture, but keep covering your eyes ig. I know that makes you feel a lot better. I bet you don’t even understand what a cafo is
Pretty sure nearly everyone and their mother would agree that animals shouldn’t be tortured before they are processed. I’m positive all these animal lovers in the comments would agree as well and wish it could be completely ethical. You don’t even have to be a vegetarian or vegan to think this. In the end there really is no difference. But I’m done arguing with an immature dumbass who calls someone a “libtard” bc they simply asked u what u ate for lunch.
No ragebaiter. You did. You called cafos the “circle of life.” You said it’s fine for them to be “sent to a factory to be used for food.” But u and I both know very well what happens in that factory. When I described the torture and how they hang them upside down not once did u show disdain or upset by the practice. No you called me a pussy bitch. Why are u pretending you suddenly care?
Because he needs to eat is a lame ass excuse. I dont believe that he doesnt have access to a grocery store. You do realize you can eat plants right? Also chickens have been bred to produce eggs at much higher rates than they naturally would, which causes immense strain on their bodies and creates a lot of health issues such as prolapses for example. Also the male chicks are killed in the industry as they are useless for the egg industry.
Also dairy is extremely cruel as cows like all mammals produce milk for their babies, and ONLY when they birth babies. Therefore they are forcibly impregnated multiple times, then once they give birth the baby is taken and their milk is stolen. Animal agriculture relies on the exploitation of female reproductive systems.
So let me reiterate again in simple terms. CAFOs are concentrated animal feeding operations. Cafos are widely known to be horrifically abusive. Nearly every person can agree with this because it is an objective truth. You said that CAFOs are the circle of life. You called me a pussy bitch for calling out the fact that it is wrong they are TORTURED before being killed. What are you missing exactly?
So you’re saying every person should go out and hunt for their food, not have it mass produced and put in grocery stores? So it sounds like you’re changing your stance now? You’ll go hunt for all your food and stop eating processed meat? Stop being a stupid bitch and pick a fucking stance. Doing this makes you look fucking dumb. One second you’re defending processed meat the next you’re only for hunting. You don’t even know what your own argument is you’ve changed it so much.