Anonymous #1 17h

its freeloading to want the government you pay taxes to, to actually use those taxes for the peoples benefit and not for idk uh say war and genocide? youre the type of person who think children can freeload of their parents, yk the people who brought them on this earth against their own will

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Anonymous #2 17h

Damn right!

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Anonymous #1 17h

Freeloader, by definition, means someone who takes without giving anything in return. If you read my post and thought I was trying to leech off someone, you’ve fundamentally misunderstood my point. I’m simply asking for a larger share of the value I helped create.

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Anonymous #5 17h

I’d say it’s life under capitalism.

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Anonymous OP 17h

Where would you point to as a better alternative?

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Anonymous #7 16h

True. Power corrupts people and none of these systems will ever be perfect because imperfect people run than

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Anonymous #3 16h

I have seen 70 year old ladies working as Walmart greeters because they can’t afford their retirement, 85 year old grandfathers thrown out of hospitals because their insurance ran out, and many many other old people not getting the care they deserve because capitalism fucked them over

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Anonymous #6 16h

I want to start by saying I don’t hate working. I actually think contributing to society is meaningful, and most people want to feel useful and productive. The issue isn’t work itself, it’s the way work and rewards are structured under capitalism. (…)

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Anonymous OP 16h

Right now, the system doesn’t consistently compensate people in proportion to the value they create. Many workers produce far more economic value than they receive in wages, while a significant share of that value is captured by owners of capital. That imbalance is what people mean when they talk about exploitation, not that work exists, but that the benefits of that work are unevenly distributed.

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Anonymous OP 16h

If we imagine an alternative, I think it would start with the idea that a nation’s wealth should serve all of its people. In a highly productive economy, no one should struggle to meet basic needs like healthcare, housing, or food simply because of their employment status. Democratic socialist thought emphasizes that baseline security, ensuring everyone can live a healthy, dignified life regardless of where they fall in the labor market.

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Anonymous OP 16h

At the same time, a better system wouldn’t eliminate incentives or personal ambition. People could still earn more, innovate, and pursue different careers. But the gap between what workers produce and what they receive would be narrower, and essential services would be decommodified so that survival isn’t tied entirely to wages.

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Anonymous OP 16h

and it should end with a stateless, moneyless, classless society

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Anonymous OP 16h

Another key point is how we think about time. Economic growth and productivity gains should translate into better lives for everyone, not just higher profits. That could mean shorter workweeks, more paid leave, and more flexibility, so people have time for family, creativity, and personal development. Right now, many people feel like they’re trading most of their best years just to stay afloat, even in a wealthy society.

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Anonymous #3 16h

Sorry know that’s super long winded but I wanted to truly answer that question. And to clarify I don’t know the answer to a better alternative, but I hope one exists and I’m devoted to learning more to help it come to fruition

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Anonymous #7 16h

Seriously it’s so silly that nobody gets this. The west has been drifting more socialist for decades and the east has been drifting more capitalist for decades as well. Developed economies just seem to do that over time, find a happy medium that works for them and their population

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Anonymous #7 16h

the system is working as intended

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Anonymous #6 16h

^

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Anonymous #5 16h

He’s right 🫤

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Anonymous #11 16h

Fwiw op you don’t haveee to do anything. You can just enjoy your life now and hitchhike around the country and through europe or around the world.

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Anonymous #11 16h

Or idk do whatever else you want to do. Some people do actually do that stuff

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Anonymous OP 13h

& to top it all off the elderly with medicare - in the end, they still owe money to healthcare. the benefits for the elderly are mid -doctor here

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