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How the fuck are people just like not political right now? This mf is taking rights away wtf
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Anonymous 13w

And there’s a genocide taking place AND Trump is going to get us into another Israeli war

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Anonymous 13w

I’m a middle class white guy. I can get away with it

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Anonymous 13w

Stopped caring a long time ago

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Anonymous 13w

Please tell me what ā€œrightsā€ he’s taken away. Actually better yet, please give me a real example as to how your day to day life has changed directly because of something Trump did? Oh wait it did. I got sleepy Joe for 4 years, it’s time to get this country back on track.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 13w

Due process

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 13w

Appointed supreme judges that overturned Roe v Wade, a case that helped prevent a ton of crime starting in the 90’s and helped substantiate women’s healthcare countrywide. Now we’re dying because us incubating a clump of cells means more to the government than our own lives.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 13w

at both of my jobs i need to keep watch for ice now because even my coworkers that are here legally are terrified of being abducted. i don’t think widespread fear is an indicator of a good president

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 13w

Sans ass

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 13w

If your coworkers are here legally that means they have documentation they could prove ICE… therefore no action would be taken against them dumb***

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 13w

Amen brother

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 13w

Which genocide? There’s a few

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 13w

they just passed a bill that says they can deport legal us citizens with ice

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Anonymous replying to -> #13 13w

The US is directly supporting one though

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 13w

It’s acceptable to kill people for crime prevention now? Can’t believe you said the quiet part out loud

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 13w

Abortion is not murder

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 13w

I mean that’s your opinion, all pro life people see it differently. Don’t state it like it’s fact, that’s definitely something there’s much disagreement about

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 13w

It is a fact actually

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 13w

It’s really not though. Depends on where people define that life begins. And it’s actually true that studies show the overwhelming majority of biologists agree life begins at conception. So in reality it isn’t a ā€œfactā€, you declaring it a fact doesn’t make it one

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 13w

šŸ¤“šŸ’¬ source

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 13w

Steven Andrews Jacob study 2019 - 96% of biologists agree that life begins at conception. I’m not trying to convince you about abortion (most pro choice people are past arguing with) but to act like this issue is settled is disingenuous

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 13w

Studies by JJ Donohue and Levitt show legal abortion caused crime to drop 20% from 1997-2014, roughly 1% a year from 24 years after Roe v Wade, when many ā€œunwantedā€ pregnancies that had been terminated would have reached adulthood. The recently revised study has been out for like 6 years already.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 13w

I didn’t dispute that abortion caused crime to drop. But you really have to be careful what you’re saying because Black women get more abortions than any other racial group, so you really think it’s ok to disproportionately abort Black children to reduce crime?

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 13w

Nothing I said brought up race. you don’t need to put words in my mouth to try to make a point. You’re using black women and their personal choices as a weapon and it’s sick. Black women and any other person of color, ANY person who CAN give birth deserves the choice of who can take from their body, including a clump of cells that isn’t guaranteed to fully develop in the first place. Do you hate women who HAVE to get abortions out of necessity too, even when the baby is wanted?

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 13w

Every living being is a clump of cells. And there are no necessary abortions

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 13w

No necessary abortions? Tell that to the women who have needed an emergency abortion to save their life. You are not a medical professional and you don’t know everyone’s personal health issues so please don’t try to speak on it.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 13w

There are doctors that confirm this. Something like removing an ectopic pregnancy (which is an emergency) is not the abortions we’re talking about because that embryo is not and could never be viable and also actively poses a threat to the mother. And aside from the fact that abortion is never necessary, you and I both know the vast majority of abortions are elective.

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 13w

Nope, we’re including those types of abortion as long as women are being refused medical help for such things until their lives are in danger, which has made the news several times in my own state for happening. Abortions should always be an option, especially for quality of life of the mother. You sound like the type to deny a raped child the option. You like forcing kids to go through the trauma of giving birth after the trauma of rape as well?

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 13w

No, I don’t think the wrong of abortion is made ok because of the wrong of rape. Two wrongs don’t make a right. The abortion doesn’t ā€œundoā€ the rape. And most of those news stories you’re seeing are malpractice issues where the laws aren’t being applied properly. And no, you don’t get to kill someone for your own quality of life. Someone’s existence being inconvenient for you doesn’t negate their right to life.

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 13w

Nah you’re a disgusting individual if you’d force a child to give birth, let alone other rape victims. That’s all I need to know to discontinue this thread. It is clear you do not give a fuck about what happens to the fetus or mother after birth. Have the day you deserve.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 13w

And it’s clear you do not care about the millions of lives being ended because you’ve been brainwashed into believing they aren’t valuable and human. That’s been the ideology behind every single disgusting genocide in history, and it’s claiming millions of victims right now.

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 13w

Comparing abortion to genocide is insane. Go touch grass. The U.S. can’t even take care of the people it has now and you want millions MORE of babies and children facing abuse and poverty? Not all but MANY would be harmed far more for being brought into this world. People do not seek abortion solely for selfish reasons and to think you know better than those making the decision because of what they face in their own life is a ridiculous assumption you’d be a better person to abandon.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 13w

Not pretending to know everyone’s situation, but it is a fact most are elective. You can acknowledge that pro life sees abortion as murder (even if u disagree) and therefore no set of circumstances or potential hardship in the child’s life justifies them being killed. And in that case, if it is in fact murder, then this is the largest genocide ever. Also, don’t talk about us not being able to support people, y’all say we need immigration bc the birth rate is too low, so which is it

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 13w

You sound actually crazy, I have no idea what you’re talking about on your last point. It is true we can’t support people lol families get to start out their lives in crippling debt because we make them pay to give birth (which you like to force upon them obviously) and another example is those who fight for this country are homeless and die from suicide at alarming rates. The leading cause of death for pregnant women is Homicide and suicide based on a study using CDC data from 2005-22.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 13w

Dude if you have any form of health insurance birth is covered. People post their pre insurance bills online. There’s different kinds of plans. People with Medicaid often pay nothing and people with private insurance end up paying a small percent of their bill. I’m not forcing people to have kids, you make that choice when you have sex. When you do the thing that makes kids, you can’t get mad when you get pregnant.

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 13w

They post after insurance bills as well but you’re neglecting to include anyone who doesn’t have insurance at all. Also, you include rape victims in the ā€œmust give birthā€ section of your argument so yes you are trying to force people to have kids because ā€œtwo wrongs don’t make a right šŸ„ŗā€ regardless of if they were violated or have the means to take care of it.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 13w

Literally almost any full time employment comes with health insurance like if you work fast food full time you get benefits. And if you can’t work for whatever reason you can get Medicaid and/or disability. I don’t see it as forcing birth but instead not allowing murder. Sure, for rape victims it’s a hard situation but like I said that is a tiny portion of abortions AND murder doesn’t rectify the trauma the woman suffered. In fact, having an abortion just adds on to the trauma.

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