Appointed supreme judges that overturned Roe v Wade, a case that helped prevent a ton of crime starting in the 90ās and helped substantiate womenās healthcare countrywide. Now weāre dying because us incubating a clump of cells means more to the government than our own lives.
Studies by JJ Donohue and Levitt show legal abortion caused crime to drop 20% from 1997-2014, roughly 1% a year from 24 years after Roe v Wade, when many āunwantedā pregnancies that had been terminated would have reached adulthood. The recently revised study has been out for like 6 years already.
Nothing I said brought up race. you donāt need to put words in my mouth to try to make a point. Youāre using black women and their personal choices as a weapon and itās sick. Black women and any other person of color, ANY person who CAN give birth deserves the choice of who can take from their body, including a clump of cells that isnāt guaranteed to fully develop in the first place. Do you hate women who HAVE to get abortions out of necessity too, even when the baby is wanted?
There are doctors that confirm this. Something like removing an ectopic pregnancy (which is an emergency) is not the abortions weāre talking about because that embryo is not and could never be viable and also actively poses a threat to the mother. And aside from the fact that abortion is never necessary, you and I both know the vast majority of abortions are elective.
Nope, weāre including those types of abortion as long as women are being refused medical help for such things until their lives are in danger, which has made the news several times in my own state for happening. Abortions should always be an option, especially for quality of life of the mother. You sound like the type to deny a raped child the option. You like forcing kids to go through the trauma of giving birth after the trauma of rape as well?
No, I donāt think the wrong of abortion is made ok because of the wrong of rape. Two wrongs donāt make a right. The abortion doesnāt āundoā the rape. And most of those news stories youāre seeing are malpractice issues where the laws arenāt being applied properly. And no, you donāt get to kill someone for your own quality of life. Someoneās existence being inconvenient for you doesnāt negate their right to life.
And itās clear you do not care about the millions of lives being ended because youāve been brainwashed into believing they arenāt valuable and human. Thatās been the ideology behind every single disgusting genocide in history, and itās claiming millions of victims right now.
Comparing abortion to genocide is insane. Go touch grass. The U.S. canāt even take care of the people it has now and you want millions MORE of babies and children facing abuse and poverty? Not all but MANY would be harmed far more for being brought into this world. People do not seek abortion solely for selfish reasons and to think you know better than those making the decision because of what they face in their own life is a ridiculous assumption youād be a better person to abandon.
Not pretending to know everyoneās situation, but it is a fact most are elective. You can acknowledge that pro life sees abortion as murder (even if u disagree) and therefore no set of circumstances or potential hardship in the childās life justifies them being killed. And in that case, if it is in fact murder, then this is the largest genocide ever. Also, donāt talk about us not being able to support people, yāall say we need immigration bc the birth rate is too low, so which is it
You sound actually crazy, I have no idea what youāre talking about on your last point. It is true we canāt support people lol families get to start out their lives in crippling debt because we make them pay to give birth (which you like to force upon them obviously) and another example is those who fight for this country are homeless and die from suicide at alarming rates. The leading cause of death for pregnant women is Homicide and suicide based on a study using CDC data from 2005-22.
Dude if you have any form of health insurance birth is covered. People post their pre insurance bills online. Thereās different kinds of plans. People with Medicaid often pay nothing and people with private insurance end up paying a small percent of their bill. Iām not forcing people to have kids, you make that choice when you have sex. When you do the thing that makes kids, you canāt get mad when you get pregnant.
They post after insurance bills as well but youāre neglecting to include anyone who doesnāt have insurance at all. Also, you include rape victims in the āmust give birthā section of your argument so yes you are trying to force people to have kids because ātwo wrongs donāt make a right š„ŗā regardless of if they were violated or have the means to take care of it.
Literally almost any full time employment comes with health insurance like if you work fast food full time you get benefits. And if you canāt work for whatever reason you can get Medicaid and/or disability. I donāt see it as forcing birth but instead not allowing murder. Sure, for rape victims itās a hard situation but like I said that is a tiny portion of abortions AND murder doesnāt rectify the trauma the woman suffered. In fact, having an abortion just adds on to the trauma.