Anonymous #1 22h

Explain how

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Anonymous #2 22h

Yes I very much agree it can be said situationally or sometimes it’s not genuine so it depends but I’m talking to those who like basically think u can say whatever and it’s never the same/wrong

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Anonymous OP 22h

yeah i’m ngl like you’ll have to give me a more specific example bc your post reads like someone saying racism against white people in america is just as rampant and harmful as racism against black people in america. like no the fuck it’s not LMFAOOO are there black people who genuinely in their heart of hearts despise white people and want them subservient or dead or something yeah but you’re never gonna see something like black people en masse cheering for the lynchings of white people

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Anonymous #2 22h

like are there women who in their heart of hearts individually hate men so much that they circle back around to being very sexist/bioessentialist in their own ways absolutely. you are never going to see a female epstein preying on majority little fucking boys bro. it’s just not the same on these systemic levels so even interpersonally it’s hard to look at these individual cases and say they hold any significant weight in the grand scheme of things

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Anonymous #2 22h

like the fact that we DO have a female epstein (ghislaine maxwell) and all she was doing was helping her pedo husband prey on young girls and the fact that out of all the criminals we know were definitely involved in that shit, majority male, she’s the only one actually being held somewhat accountable (and i’m not saying she SHOULDN’T be just because she’s a woman do not even BEGIN to get me wrong on this it’s just interesting that she is one of the first and only one punished)

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Anonymous #2 22h

you can’t look at shit like this and think some man haters hold any water against it, or continue thinking it’s entirely irrational to not at the very least be weary of men—if not individual men then he way that men are socialized. cause at least for me i don’t really say i hate all men i like being nuanced but i know if/when i do employ that sentiment it is not hatred or malice for individual men but how society raises men and lets them get away with

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Anonymous #2 22h

anyway yeah my rambling thoughts LMAOOOO

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Anonymous #2 22h

Holy yap session

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Anonymous #2 22h

Lmaoo yea that’s a lot but I appreciate u explaining ur thoughts lol! For ur ex about black vs white people I wasn’t typically thinking about scale but at the end of the day they are both forms of racism and both should be looked down on regardless of if one has a lesser impact. Sure men being misogynistic is problematic and arguably more of an issue I don’t think that should be an excuse to allow some women to get away with blatant sexism just because it may be upsetting, to me that seems like

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Anonymous #2 22h

An unproductive way to go about things. For why I called them the same both ways it’s cuz I was thinking of is it using a preconceived notion u have on other members of the same demographic to categorise others and the answer is yes so it’s the same in that way. There have been times where I’ve like just met a girl and they immediately start spewing about how they hate men and it’s always just such an uncomfortable position to be put in lol esp when I’m a gay dude so like

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Anonymous #2 22h

They’re not technically talking about me but they don’t know I’m gay so they are fully intending to/ that’s what it comes across as. Again this obviously isn’t all women so I’d never say like oh I hate women they always do so and so but I’m saying when it is I lowkey feel like that’s just blatant sexism but ig they don’t see it the same way. Also I’m not necessarily saying they have no reason to feel said way cuz I understand the misogyny present in society but like the way it evolves is

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Anonymous #2 22h

Up to the individual and just a choice someone shouldn’t make if that makes sense

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Anonymous #6 22h

I’m sorry I’ve never killed a woman sooo treating me as if I did is generalising based on a demographic.. again I’m not saying their fears are irrational or it’s wrong for them to feel that way however I don’t think u have to treat men in a negative manner just cuz of this if that makes sense

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Anonymous #6 22h

Treating and generalizing men under that category is insanely damaging

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Anonymous OP 22h

I’m still waitin on the explanation fr 😂

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Anonymous #5 22h

Sorry, im not saying that all men are killers. I was trying to explain why it’s different when women shit on men, because the stakes are higher for them. There’s a long history of women being objectified and treated as less than human, which has contributed to the general sense of fear of men. When men criticize women, it’s different because it’s coming from a position of greater social power.

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Anonymous #2 22h

Saying there would never be a female Epstein is the most out of touch, sexist statement I’ve ever seen, looking at your paragraphs it’s clear that the same thing ur getting mad at is exactly what your doing, over generalizing groups of people, thinking you could never do anything wrong, that’s exactly the type of mentality of the specific types of white people/men that your talking abt, so what makes it ok for you to do it?

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Anonymous #6 21h

Yes I fully agree with this but generalisation is generalisation and both ways are harmful despite what origin they come from. Same argument for black and white racism, sure black people have a reason and history oppressed by white people but that doesn’t mean any black person can spew hate speech against white people if that makes sense

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Anonymous #8 21h

Right so I’m a guy lmao I don’t want anyone choosing me, did u have a counter argument orrr?

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Anonymous OP 21h

Exactly my point. Theres so much love to give to try and counteract evil people in the world, yet instead of doing that, people would rather compete with each other and say things like “this type of racism isn’t as bad at this kind of racism! It depends on race!” Or “this sexism isn’t as bad as this sexism! It depends on gender!”. It’s all bad, but people would rather compete and say “this negativity is stronger” rather than actually spread positivity.

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Anonymous OP 21h

That does make sense and i agree generalization is bad!! I don’t hate men but i see why women are fearful of men in general. I also think that respect should go both ways - men shouldn’t expect respect from women if they are hateful towards them.

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Anonymous #6 21h

Couldn’t agree more

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Anonymous #13 21h

It’s like rich people who hate on poor people vs poor people who hate on rich people. Poor people don’t hate the rich for having money. They hate them for treating them with disrespect, legislating against them, and looking at them as subhuman. But rich people who hate poor people see the poor as less than because they don’t deserve the money. They don’t deserve their wealth because they see them as lazy and not special like them. It typically comes from different places.

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Anonymous #9 21h

it’s crazy cause you clearly did not read what i said, or you read it with your own biases in mind. that’s fine, but i quite i literally pointed out how gishlaine maxwell is the female epstein, and talked about how she was aiding her husband in doing horrific things to little girls and women. i’ve also acknowledged in my posts that there are absolutely people within these marginalized groups (black people, women) who are extreme and do and say bad things.

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Anonymous #2 21h

of course it is 100% possible for there to be a female super predator the likes of epstein, everyone has varying capacities for evil. but when i say there will never be a female epstein is that in the current world that we live in, i dont think its possible for a woman to have the sheer amount of power and money to do what epstein and all of his (MOSTLY MALE) co-conspirators did, to not only prey on so many people, but to also get away with it. i’m talking about the bigger picture of things here

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Anonymous OP 21h

Bro my girl hates on men all the time and I don’t get defensive, I agree with her. Cuz I know it’s not about me. It always comes on the tails of men upholding some dumb patriarchal bs. It’s different than when I heard some of my former male friends hating on women. They’d hate women for being above them at work and being not nice. They’d hate on them for being crazy when it sounded like my guy was the problem.

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Anonymous #13 21h

YAY this is healthy masculinity!!!!!

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Anonymous #2 21h

i’m not saying women SHOULDN’T have power, SHOULDN’T have money, SHOULDN’T have influence, i’m not saying that they don’t currently have those things, i am saying they don’t have it on the scale that their MALE COUNTERPARTS have it in the same way. again out of all the co-conspirators, it is only gislaine who is being punished. as she rightfully should be!! but what about everyone else

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Anonymous #13 21h

That’s why it’s situational and I can’t stand just hating on an entire gender (going both ways) because everyone has different experiences. And again, instead of spreading positivity and propping up the positives, people want to make experiences a competition and blame others, then generalizations start and it just gets worse and worse

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Anonymous #2 21h

epstein is only possible because society does not care about women and children and treasures power and money over everything else. women just do not have the same access to those things, whether they should or shouldn’t. like by all means if you can point me to a female led thing by this please do so and i will look at it and see where i’m off base but i just don’t know if it exists

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Anonymous #2 21h

Sorry what? u had me until the Epstein thing. Epstein was an absolute monster as everyone knows, but what about the countless women found involved in those files? Please tell me you’re not saying they get a free pass because of gender? Or are you just saying that a woman isn’t as likely to be like the “ring leader” of that? I’m not commenting this maliciously btw, just trying to understand the whole point

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Anonymous #2 21h

now here is what i will grant you, back to the point of there being female predators—i do think we have an issue with taking male victims seriously when they come out and talk about their experiences of being raped/assaulted. i can see a situation where you do have something like this happening but the women get away with it because people think women can’t do this to men/that men can’t/shouldn’t be victimized by women

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Anonymous #2 21h

but that kind of thing stems from literally the same reason why you have epsteins to begin with, on every level of society…

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Anonymous #5 21h

absolutely not saying the women found in those files should get a free pass!! lock them up too!! jesus christ. yes my point is that a woman is less likely to be the ring leader of something like this, to do this at such a large scale, and to continuously keep getting away with it w/ the power/money/influence they acquired

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Anonymous #17 21h

Shouldn’t be any hate at all outside of the people that deserve that response.

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Anonymous #5 21h

if you get a specific dish at a restaurant that continually makes you sick, you probably won't like that food very much anymore, even if it dosent ALWAYS make you sick. it might not be the restaurant , but it's certainly the food

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Anonymous #17 21h

It’s the persons fault for continuously ordering the same dish that has given the same results. Same person could order a different dish from the same restaurant and it could be a completely different experience, or they could go to a different restaurant and still have a bad experience. Choosing who to surround yourself with is more important than gender. Every person has the opportunity to be positive or negative regardless of gender.

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Anonymous #5 21h

i don't disagree, i think for a lot of women throughout their lives tho they have negative experiences with men, regardless of their intentions and over time it makes you brace yourself for encounters and avoid situations where you feel you'll have a bad experience, a lot of times it ends up as just avoiding men and a dislike for them overall

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Holy idiot, no way you believe women can’t be bad people because “the power dynamics is not equal” that’s like the equivalent of saying one race can’t be racist because “the power dynamic is not equal”. Neither make sense, bad people are bad people regardless of who they are. If your good your good and if your bad your bad. Easy like that

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Anonymous #17 21h

Totally agree with you. I just hate the constant negativity between genders right out of the gate because some absolutely garbage human beings exist. The generalization is the part that’s damaging beyond anything. It goes for both sides too cause I’ve known many people that are just tough to be around, but I always tell myself that every person is different. Just too much hate going around lately, so I’d like to spread a bit more love

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Anonymous OP 21h

yeah no i hear you and i agree like, you should see and interact with people on an individual level first, and not let your preconceived notion/biases about their demographic data cloud your judgement when it comes to them and how they are and how they move through the world. like i said i myself don’t personally approach people in this way and i generally think it’s better to give people the benefit of the doubt

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Anonymous #2 20h

but the thing is that people are shaped by the environment they live in too…and it’s like, if you live in a society that tells men it’s okay to treat women a certain way, and then you keep meeting men who treat women in those same certain ways…unfortunately whether you like it or not, even if you continue trying to give people the benefit of the doubt consciously, in the back of your mind you’re gonna at least start Expecting certain things are more likely to happen with men, no?

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Anonymous #23 20h

Just because men are shittier does not mean women can’t be shitty

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Anonymous #2 20h

like idk to speak about myself more personally i knew a guy in uni who i took as himself at face value, but it’s like. idk it’s a lot to explain i can get into the full story, but the way he wrote about certain topics and some of the opinions he shared, did make me go like okay. so you Are a privileged white man and that’s where your manner of approaching the world and certain ideas you have are coming from, you know?

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Anonymous #2 20h

it’s not like now i hate all white people or all white men, and up till now as far as i know, i don’t think he’s a bad person individually, obviously he is more than just those things i mentioned. he was just a guy. but that’s sort of what i mean when i say people might be weary about how certain groups are Socialized, rather than like, the individuals in that group, if that makes sense

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Oh what the hell kinda take 😭

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Anonymous #5 20h

Please get a job.

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Anonymous #2 20h

i’d really just encourage you to look deeper into yourself Why it’s concerning you that much, for a plethora of reasons. like i’m sorry when i think of the people more concerned with perceived (or real) anti-white racism i am thinking of people who are just about two steps away from being white nationalists talking about some great replacement theory shit, for example. like just make sure you are grounded in reality and not getting too lost in any one sauce with this kind of thing.

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Anonymous #29 20h

Hate is ingrained in our society, specifically towards women. I understand your take, but it’s one that genuinely holds no merit because you’re a man. You don’t have lived experiences as a woman getting followed home by a man, getting catcalled, being taught since day one to appease men. You said you’d never kill a woman, but it’s a genuine fear women have. It’s not a funny joke. Our shitting on men is because of our lived experiences, which doesn’t make it good, but we’re just dishing it back.

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Anonymous #21 20h

brother what??😭😭

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Anonymous #2 20h

also want to say i think it’s fair to feel uncomfortable when people make these comments and i’m not saying you should just set that aside, do whatever you need to do to process those feelings, but then just weigh that against what those groups have had to deal with historically and still have to deal with today you know.

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Anonymous #2 20h

👏👏👏

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Anonymous #38 19h

I knew 2 people who were domestically abused horribly by their girlfriend and wife. I shouldn’t spread hate to people of the same gender because of it. I just hate the monsters that commit the crimes and atrocities regardless of what gender they are and I love the people who are normal everyday passerby’s because that’s the way it should be

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Anonymous #4 18h

I think we can say there are general inequalities and imbalances in power that make this not the same thing. I always talk about “punching up” in comedy

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If anyone is “obsessed” with shitting on the other gender, they have some personal healing to do. Regardless of any other factors.

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Anonymous #42 18h

It’s okay to shit on someone who has done you wrong or the people you care for wrong. It’s not okay to shit on someone simply for the gender or because of your preconceived notions based on how some other people may have treated you. We learned this at a young age.

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Anonymous #4 18h

That’s what I’ve been saying on this whole post and the fact that people have continuously downvoted it just kinda shows how negative people have become 😔

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Anonymous #13 18h

this is actually making me think of how like, honestly, even other men shit on men. there’s the whole stereotype about the overprotective father who’s weary of any/all men that come around their daughters and all that…why are we then surprised if those same daughters then come up to be weary of men, too?

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Anonymous #5 18h

Hurt people hurt people it’s always been that way

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Anonymous OP 18h

How is someone supposed to know you haven’t or will not? Women have been killed by friends, family, even their own children. It’s ignoring the mountains of context for women’s issues with men to say things like this. That is not to say I think they should treat anyone badly but it is extremely different from the male to female dislike.

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Anonymous #6 18h

i'd rather someone attempt to murder me once and live then get laughed at 10,000 times for something I can't control and live

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Anonymous OP 18h

“Not all men” ass bullshit lol

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Anonymous OP 17h

“it’s not all men but it’s always a man”

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Anonymous #6 17h

Greater social power? Have you been outside

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Anonymous #11 17h

Lacking the physical capability to cause significant harm doesn’t mean you’re a better person

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Anonymous #21 17h

Go outside. Feel the sun on your face and the grass between your toes for a while and don’t even think about touching your computer.

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Anonymous #41 16h

LOL

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Anonymous OP 16h

Black people don’t spread hate speech against white people. Where do you get the victims complex from? Are white people disproportionately subjected to police brutality and still face exclusion from better housing markets ? You can’t flatten any racial hierarchies and say all bad when clearly we still live in a white supremacist country. White people can be prejudiced against which I don’t support but cannot face systemic racism

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Anonymous #6 15h

okay courtney barnett

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Anonymous #13 13h

Do we not see how that’s generalising tho? Why say “men” if u only mean a select few who are evil? Why not just say u hate people who do so and so behaviors? It has nothing to do with what’s in ur pants

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Anonymous #2 13h

Being weary of men is not what I’m saying the issue is I’m aware that wanting to be safe is human nature. I’m saying just being negative and derogatory based on gender

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Anonymous #56 13h

I never said they can face systematic racism..? But both can technically be discriminated about in different manners, both of which are bad I’m aware it looks verrryyy different for both sides but it’s not good regardless is my argument. Just cuz I’m against racism on black people doesn’t mean I’m for prejudice on whites

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Anonymous #11 13h

Literally what does that have to do with discriminating against an individual

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Anonymous #26 13h

I don’t shit on women thus I do not deserve to be shat on is my argument

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Anonymous #41 13h

Well I’ve said so multiple times in comments I’m not hiding it lmaoo😭😭

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Anonymous #35 13h

I’m confused I’m not victimising myself I feel like I’m making a point lmao I think men shouldn’t hate on women and women shouldn’t hate on men and it’s as simple as that lol

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Anonymous #5 13h

Thank u

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Anonymous #36 13h

Two wrongs don’t make a right buddyyy why reinforce bad systems that makes u no better. If it was really frustration ud be able to see that this behaviour wouldnt stop anything

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Anonymous #19 13h

Yes!!!

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Anonymous #18 13h

I don’t get why we’re proud of this imagine a man saying “I never said I wasn’t a shitty person I just like hating on women” I’d find him absolutely disgusting

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Anonymous #57 13h

Me too lmao and I posted it

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Anonymous #60 13h

Sorry I’m just a fat chud ig😢😢😢

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Anonymous OP 13h

On an individual level it’s honestly still the same. You forget there are women who go through this everyday, having to rearrange their lives around this and more of those people are women then men

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Anonymous OP 13h

the first step to rechuddery is admitting you have a problem

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Anonymous #52 13h

Yes you’re right but mean women on average don’t get as far as their male counterparts, and women hate groups rarely get to the level where people are killed because of them but misogyny still regularly does that.

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Anonymous OP 13h

It goes against standard rules you can’t criticize women ever 😂

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Anonymous #24 12h

i'm a guy but i generally agree with you (you can see my other comment for a little more depth on my perspective) but i'm curious if you could expand on "the over arching principle of the man" as i'm not totally sure what that's getting at, but it sounds interesting

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Anonymous #29 12h

i was trying to figure out how to phrase two concepts along the lines of "the way men hate on women and the way women hate on men are fundamentally not the same" & "there are many more men who casually hate and hurt the women in their lives than women who do the equivalent to men in their lives" but couldn't quite hack it. this comment phrases my thoughts much more eloquently, so thank you for that

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Anonymous #60 12h

Yes that’s exactly what I was getting at!! Glad that came through and we agree 🤝👏

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Anonymous #29 12h

And I think to add to that, framing them as equal reinforces a culture that silences women and makes them unable to call out harmful male behavior. And when your point of view is “it’s unfair that I’m blamed for other men” rather than “how can I contribute to a systemic change”, you are still perpetuating the system even if you don’t directly contribute.

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Anonymous #43 12h

exactly that. as a man, when i hear a woman shit talking men, i don't usually feel hurt by it, bc it's clear that i'm not the type of man they're talking abt. if i do feel hurt by it, thats either bc i don't see what's wrong with what they're criticizing, or i feel defensive bc i'm being called out. if i'm not sure why a behavior is criticized i usually question (ie. why is it bad for a man to cry?) & i think they're wrong in what they criticize, i don't take their opinion that seriously

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Anonymous #43 12h

if someone i'm friends with says "all men do is lie and cheat" i understand that they're expressing the feeling that they have been hurt repeatedly and i offer sympathy. if someome i'm seeing romantically says that, i'll usually ask where the sentiment is coming from & use it as a jumping off point for conversation abt expectations and concerns in the relationship

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Anonymous #60 12h

It’s my way of acknowledging that individually, there are great men out there. the principle is recognizing as a whole, our society (arguably world) is built on the idea that men are better equipped with ‘hard stuff’ such as politic, business, and money. while there are laws in place that physically stop inequality, there’s is still a deep belief in many men that women aren’t equal to them. Women were just allowed to open their own bank account without a male signer in the 70s.

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Anonymous #24 12h

with that, it’s not a stretch to say people currently alive don’t believe women should have certain rights. those values get passed down, whether through verbal language, or through actions. the way children see how their father treats their mother. While I believe we have made great strides, as a 23 year old women, I hope we can get better for my future grandchildren and they won’t have to experience the hate & sexualizing I’ve received so easily from men, just for being a women.

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Anonymous #60 12h

I’m not the OP, but O did have a conversation with a friend this weekend about how when someone says, “I hate men” it’s the over arching system of men that is built on the backs of female oppression. Every man benefits even if they aren’t a “bad” man, and as long as they make no attempt to dismantle it, they are complicit. It’s not enough to not be like “bad men”. Think of how men attack other men by implying they are women/feminine. Insults like “don’t be a bitch” “you’re a pussy”.

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Anonymous #43 12h

Men as a system uplift themselves through devaluing women

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Anonymous #34 12h

YUP like go cry about it

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Anonymous #5 12h

And every single woman knows a another woman who has suffered violence at the hands of men who which ones are they supposed to not hate? When just based on the sheer number of female victims, any man you are talking to could another woman’s abuser? Not to mention how abuse against women is so normalized so many men don’t even know they’re abusers and therefore go around thinking they’re “one of the good ones”

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Anonymous OP 12h

what kind of things have you seen women saying about men that make you feel like you're being shit on? i'm asking genuinely since the girls i've been around tend not to be the type that just make general sweeping statements about all men in ways that would be actually hurtful to anyone who's reading the subtext of their statement

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Anonymous OP 12h

What do you about men that do shit on women? Do you call it out ?

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Anonymous #24 12h

right, that's along the lines of how i was thinking you meant it. someone else i responded to had a similar kind of idea they were getting at, that basically men and women are "shit on" by the other gender in different ways. it's not really fair to say the two are "no different" because they come from two totally different groups with different motivations, experiences, and social forces backing them.

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Anonymous #29 12h

it’s also how these thoughts/statements/ideas about women end up very tangibly worsening their lives in ways that conments that men-hating women make just do not. i know i and others have made this point several times but like i really can’t capitalize enough on how bad it is. a bunch of women can call for men to be like, put into cages at a certain age because they’re all fundamentally rapists or whatever and you’ll never see something even close to that come to pass

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Anonymous #2 12h

but even the more “innocuous” belief that women are best suited to care for children/are just baby makers can result in…oh i don’t know, roe v wade being repealed. which then leads to a actually much higher rate of deaths for mothers and children alike. or like you know, this idea that women can and do “tempt” men sexually without meaning to, leading to women not being taken seriously socially or legally when they talk about rape/sexual assault…

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Anonymous #2 12h

and again these things end up hurting men in their own ways too, men like bringing up how women are favored when it comes to custody battles, which does absolutely suck and is unfair to men, but women aren’t the only/main ones at fault for that this ALSO goes back to the belief that women are just these inherently better caretakers than men are

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Anonymous #43 12h

very true, also not only is language used to implicitly attack women but also to uphold an image of "woman" as separate from "person" (which taken to its extreme & historically common ends, erases women from intellectual society) like have you ever noticed how almost everyone refers to unknown gender animals, empersoned objects, characters, etc as HE rather than she? except for things that are explicitly owned and used by men like boats and cars

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Anonymous #2 12h

like say everything you want about men hating women by all means again i’m not saying they’re any good esp if they really are just purposefully maliciously hurting men for no other reason than that they’re men but i don’t think they’re going out there doing mass shootings against women because of personal sexual grievances are doing family annihilation because they’re “failing” at some gender role

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Anonymous #2 11h

You brought up a great point! A lot of the things men cite as female privilege are rooted in misogyny lol.

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Anonymous #60 11h

Exactly!! And it all comes back to hatred of women being so ingrained into systems that so many people miss it and then falsely equate it to the (valid) female response.

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Anonymous #43 11h

Also this is the first generation of women to be open about their dislike of this so I think some men feel robbed of women’s silence about their faults

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Anonymous OP 11h

Someone else here was explaining the difference in why women shit on men versus men shit on women (there’s typically a difference between the two) to which you replied “well that’s not me” like tf?? what point are you trying to make there?

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Anonymous #35 11h

I think it’s clear this isn’t a good faith post at this point. Multiple people have explained why he’s wrong and he’s ignored the in-depth explanations

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Anonymous #43 9h

Yeah that’s true 🥲 hopefully the explanations have helped some people anyway

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Anonymous #43 7h

So basically what you’re saying is, the abuse that I just told you about isn’t important enough for you to care about in this situation, but we should ONLY care about women that are abused? In addition to that women should fear men 24/7 because of the multitude of monsters that exist across the world that are men. That’s just wildly close-minded and quite frankly ridiculous. I’m not gonna go around and hate all women simply because someone like Ghislaine Maxwell existed 💀😭

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Anonymous #5 7h

You know that’s not what I said and you are intentionally misconstruing it to miss the point. Which you’ve done in multiple replies across this thread. Goodbye and have the day you deserve.

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Anonymous #43 7h

It’s not my fault you choose to spread hate and consistently choose to make it a competition of gender. All victims of abuse deserve justice, peace and love, regardless of gender or circumstance, yet people still choose to go the gender war route

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Anonymous #43 7h

Ur point was very clearly “women are statistically more abused” which is completely true. Nothing wrong with that. My point (which was the original posts point) is that random men who have done nothing wrong don’t deserve to be thrown into the “I hate all men” discussion as they have done nothing wrong and have no connection in any form to the monsters that you are referring to. I got no problem with what you’re sayin about the abusers, bury them under the prison, can’t keep a gender war going

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Anonymous #5 7h

No, my point was if nearly every woman has a story, which men are they supposed to trust/like?

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Anonymous #43 7h

I don’t mind that point. They can trust anyone they feel comfortable and they can be wary of whoever they want. But spreading pure hatred with the whole “I hate men” and men oppressing women is just going to cause more hurt, more divide, more anxiety, and everything in between. It’s already about as divided as it gets because people are more concerned with gender (for this post), race, status and ego than actually fixing the issues.

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Anonymous #43 7h

It’s a vicious cycle of “we need to put the other gender down in some way in order to equalize or oppress” rather than “how can everyone work in unison to actually get to the root cause”, and that’s just something that’s upsetting

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Anonymous #63 1h

How so?

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