Anonymous #2 12w

If they were only arresting and detaining legal residents, you’d have a semblance of a point. But they’re detaining US citizens and folks with legal work authorization. America did not vote for this. They wanted cheaper eggs and got fascism.

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Anonymous OP 12w

>legal work authorization Like Kilmar Abrego Garcia? Because he had a deportation order. Also it wouldn’t matter if they were *only* rounding up illegal residents, liberals wouldn’t like it because it’s what Trump ran on and you know it.

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Anonymous #2 12w

*which btw any citizen/legal resident they arrest is 0.1% of the arrests and they are released expeditiously

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Anonymous OP 12w

In fairness, we did get cheaper eggs.

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Anonymous #2 12w

No. Like the door dash guy who brought my neighbor food three days ago and still hasn’t been released. If people who voted for Trump wanted this, we are in much worse shape as a country than I thought.

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Anonymous #2 12w

Any citizen arrested on suspicion of being a legal immigrant should be a concern. There’s due process, not arrest first and ask questions later.

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Anonymous OP 12w

Most ICE detainees are deported without additional due process because they’ve already received due process. They already have a final deportation order. There isn’t some hack to get infinite rounds in court for this.

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Anonymous #3 12w

You obviously didn’t read what I wrote and just responded to what you wanted me to say.

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Anonymous #3 12w

Actually you’re dead wrong. Many many people are racially profiled and kidnapped from their jobs, their homes, and even immigration offices without warrants

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Anonymous OP 12w

Well make sense of it for me then, because nobody is getting arrested on suspicion of being a legal immigrant.

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Anonymous #3 12w

I’m literally telling you they are. And if not arrested, detained. Sometimes for days.

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Anonymous OP 12w

On suspicion of being a legal immigrant? No. That’s not what this whole thing is about.

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Anonymous #3 12w

Several people in my small town have been kidnapped by ice and were held for days without being able to contact their loved ones before ice released them cause they are CITIZENS. Did you vote for this? I sure hope not

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Anonymous #3 12w

No, I misread it. Not on suspicion of being a legal immigrant. That would be dumb. I’m not sure why you aren’t more concerned about them detaining people first and then sorting it out later. That’s not what America is about

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Anonymous OP 12w

America isn’t about open borders and letting people roam freely and do whatever. There’s a process. People need to follow it. It’s finally getting enforced and it’s a big damn mess because the people who were in charge prior to this did a poor job of it, unlike many other countries that left leaning people put on pedestals. The rate at which people are picked up who are supposed to be here is exceedingly low and it’s unfortunate when it happens, but good riddance to the rest.

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Anonymous OP 12w

Yes, that would be dumb but that’s what you originally said.

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Anonymous OP 12w

And by the way, arrest first and due process later is the normal operating procedure for pretty much everything in this country, citizen or not, whether it’s related to immigration or not.

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Anonymous #3 12w

Nah. There needs to be due process. Would you like to be arrested and detained for days? Unable to communicate with your family. And if you’re a female you might even be sexually assaulted while you’re there. All the while you’re here legally. That’s not an American value

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Anonymous #3 12w

You’re right. To clarify, I mean people are being detained on suspicion of being here illegally, and that’s concerning because legal immigrants and US citizens are being detained. That’s just dressed up racial profiling

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Anonymous OP 12w

Everyone ICE detains receives or has already received due process.

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Anonymous #3 12w

I disagree. Arrest first…with a reasonable amount of evidence and knowledge. Not fucking randomly picking people up and taking them.

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Anonymous #3 12w

That’s absolutely false. Not even close that everyone ICE had detained has received due process.

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Anonymous #5 12w

Name some.

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Anonymous OP 12w

They won’t detain you if you have identification with you and you aren’t resisting or being a dumbass trying to impede them. Then they most definitely will detain you even if you are a citizen because you’re interfering with federal law enforcement.

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Anonymous #8 12w

Let’s say that’s true. Now we’re expected to carry our work authorization papers or passports around with us everywhere to avoid being detained? That doesn’t sound like the land of the free

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Anonymous OP 12w

No. You’re expected to have valid ID on you. Your passport would definitely suffice. A real-ID should as well however there are problems with that system as well. Also usually they are looking for someone in particular when they are out and about. They will detain others if they find them though. Having a social security number is enough to prove you are a citizen usually as well I’m pretty sure.

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Anonymous #8 12w

So I’m out for a run. I should carry my passport and social security card?

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Anonymous OP 12w

No. You should know your social security number. You should have your wallet with a drivers license or government issued ID though. Also usually police will ask your name and a few other questions as well which will help them look up who you se even if you don’t have an ID on you.

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Anonymous #8 12w

Also, there are many instances where they are not looking for someone in particular. They’ve been trolling parking lots and city streets asking for proof of identification from people who look like immigrants.

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Anonymous #8 12w

Why do I have to carry my wallet with me when I’m out for a run?? Why do police have to “look me up” while I’m walking my dog?

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Anonymous #8 12w

For instance last year I got stopped at a street party during Mardi Gras. I was asked my name and a few other questions, they then asked to see my ID to confirm I wasn’t underage. I showed them it and I was let on my way.

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Anonymous #8 12w

That’s for drinking and totally different

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Anonymous OP 12w

It was an example of a law enforcement officer trying to figure out who someone they are talking to is. I am aware it’s not the same thing. ICE generally isn’t just running around detaining people at random though. They are targeting specific individuals to detain. Going around at random is not an effective way of finding someone here illegally believe me

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Anonymous #8 12w

And yet that’s exactly what they’re doing — approaching random people who look like immigrants.

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Anonymous OP 12w

Even if they are, they are legally allowed to do that. I’m not saying that’s morally right because it isn’t. Regardless they are just enforcing existing immigration laws that previous administration’s refused to. Had they never stopped enforcing the existing immigration laws this massive surge would never have been needed

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Anonymous #8 12w

It’s actually not legal, under the 14th amendment

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Anonymous OP 12w

Not necessarily if they have probable cause. Also asking if someone is a US citizen is something any defense contractor will ask on a job application or interview. The probable cause thing gives law enforcement of all kinds a lot of latitude. I’m not even going to argue that it hasn’t been abused by many law enforcement agencies over the decades though because it has.

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Anonymous #1 12w

Have you been in MAGA circles? They actually sound like Nazis. It’s not that they don’t care, they actively want a authoritarian regimes

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Anonymous #2 12w

He was federally protected by court order from deportation. The White House apologized for Giardia’s wrongful deportation.

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Anonymous #3 12w

This is factually untrue

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Anonymous #2 12w

wait till you find out who the REAL illegal residents are (ill give you a hint, they’ve been here longer)

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Anonymous OP 12w

Then know what the heck you’re voting for. You can’t blame the president because you voted for him. Biden was awful. Did I complain? No because we voted for him.

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Anonymous #13 12w

This might be the dumbest response so far.

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Anonymous #2 12w

1/3rd of Americans did. 1/3rd didn’t vote and another 1/3rd said no to this. You ain’t got the mandate of the people. You got the mandate of some people

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Anonymous #11 12w

shoot your shit straight off at the neck

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Anonymous #8 12w

as someone who knows about the immigration system. even if ur a legal resident. lets say ur on a work visa, you don’t have a ssn, but you get another kind of number that represents u as a tax payer. the dmv can’t give these people real-id because they don’t have a ssn but a itin. they’re still legal.

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