agree with you. I grew up in a conservative area and l've never in my life met one whose political views weren't sourced in anger & resentment. I think the election of Trump really drives home the disrespect & lack of understanding of our country most conservatives have. "Pathetic" is a great word for them, in spite of its understatement.
And this, right here, this hateful slander, is why people who voted for Trump are seen as inherently racist/sexist/homophobic/generally bigoted. Liberals support LGBT causes because they see it as a human rights issue. They don’t systematically condone adultery for that. Sex trafficking here is shorthand for legalized prostitution, because they want pimps to go out of business. Grooming, because they want to make sure sex Ed isn’t just based on tactics that only matter if you never have sex
I was thinking of all the things I’d like to say to Trump supporters about him & his crew refusing to release the Epstein list and I realized I don’t have any that I speak to other than my father and we have a gentlemen’s agreement not to discuss politics. Highly recommend cutting conservatives/Trump supporters out of your life. As these comments demonstrate, they don’t bring much to the table.
Abortion is something I oppose, but I can understand the view of those who support it. It is seen as a human right not to be forced into parenthood. Abortion on demand without apology was meant to also be safe, legal, and rare originally (the exact slogans in advocacy). No one gets an abortion for fun. They support keeping it legal for those cases like rape or incest, but limiting it to just that turns into forcing victims to prove they are victims. So it has to be legal always.
😂 I screenshot your comment to use in my standup. You’re saying large corporations brainwash people to think we should have sympathy for the poor, that discrimination & sexism is bad, and that society shouldn’t be ruled by the wealthiest people to benefit them. 🤣🤣🤣 man, my audiences are going to laugh so hard at this. Thank you.
Really, let’s talk about those issues. Queerphobic? I’d like you to elaborate. Ableist? Please, elaborate on how the group that supports amending the ADA is ableist, except in opposing universal health care, which plenty of liberals also do. White supremacist? For believing that DEI is an artificial construct that would result in infantilizing minorities and that the “all else being equal” would mean that at least implicitly all else would always be equal.
All of the things you listed are substantial concerns that should be innate to human nature. Liberal media takes these concerns and slaps a “conservative” label to it just because we have a republican dominant government and so the audience (you especially it seems) are led to generalize all conservatives as bad people, as you made quite clear in your original post. But like I said, only extremists have these poor mindsets.
I’m also not a centrist. And I criticize anti-fascism, not for being the same, but for being violent and suppressing any dissent or any view less than borderline anarchism as fascism. The underlying issue is that neither one tolerates dissent. I will criticize the right, too. Case in point, I have been very vocal about the constitutional violations of the current administration. I stand for many things.
I’ve commented here before, but it bears repeating: the media is overwhelmingly further left than the average American, and so it can paint whatever picture it wants. Independent/conservative media has to make it an entire personality trait to not be liberal, and makes the rest of media look like the average liberal. Republicans don’t support those things. The elite do. And the elite know how to play people against each other.
Far left also says that anyone else is a fascist. And have shown an extreme willingness to resort to violence against those who disagree. I’m not saying the far right is good. But the far left has a really really serious problem. They are not benevolent. “Needs being met” is not the motivator behind their more radical policies. If it was just advocating for socialism, it wouldn’t be so bad. Hell, I’d probably support the far left myself. It’s all the baggage that comes with it.
There are real differences. Far left infantilizes minorities and supports a more radical view that gender and race can outweigh qualifications. Far right thinks that only white men deserve rights at all, much less have jobs Far left wants to become more anarchist oriented, but resorts to violence to do so, while crying to defund every public service Far right wants to make everything a subscription, including breathing.
So yes, there are differences. One wants abortion for all for free as a walk-in procedure, at almost any stage. One wants to use women as baby factories for the master race. One wants to create a loose voluntary association that owns all things in common, the other supports only the rich extremists owning things and the poor take nothing. There are differences. Big ones. And I will be the first to want to hang David Duke and Milo Yannopolis and Ben Shapiro and Dennis Prager.
I get the distinct impression that nothing I say, no concern I could possibly point out, would convince you that I am anything other than a fascist who pretends to be a centrist (which I’m not, I’m not even that conservative, if at all, I advocated for Bernie and Tulsi, and actively worked to try to prevent people from supporting Trump in the primaries). I’m just neither a communist, anarchist, or fascist. And if I see someone as any of those, I’ll say why I disagree. Peacefully.
If you meant about the campaigning/advocating, you can always do it on the local, unofficial level. It’s very rewarding. It exposes you to other views, and you also find out why people hold those views. I was a lot more rigid and a lot less tolerant of other views before I did that. If you want to do it officially, reach out to your state rep or senator. Smaller area. It really only matters if you’re in an area where it isn’t a slam dunk, but even if it is, it can give you experience.
To be clear, I don’t mean to “virtue signal” here. This was more to show that I’m not so much conservative as I am moderate. I dislike the term centrist because it implies a categorical refusal to choose a side, and is usually used by only conservative-leaning people or those who are conservative and want to lie about it. Which I can understand, because conservatives get a lot of hate at the moment, and sometimes justifiably.
Oh thank God someone who gets it! Nobody wants you or trusts you! It’s like 100x worse if you’re gay, because not even the conservatives who would kill to have you as their log cabin Republican would hear you think people deserve to not be hunted to extinction because they are born with the wrong skin color, and then go get the bundle of sticks for the… word for bundle of sticks.
Nope very real and a lot of people are ignorant to it because it couldnt possibly be that bad. Even though humans used to split people apart, skin them alive, rape them brutally etc… Its totally impossible because everything is modern 🤦 Some of you have never been to the deep web and it shows.
And this is supposed to mean conservatives are the ones behind it all? Conservatives are not omnipresent, we are not omnipotent. And by the way, most criminals are democrats. Epstein and his accomplice were both Democrats, for instance. Conservatives aren’t spotless and don’t have clean hands in everything, but those things aren’t only done, or even predominantly done, by conservatives.
Horrible things happen everywhere, and are done by all kinds of people. It isn’t so uniquely conservative that only conservatives are to blame, nor is every conservative going out there raping newborn babies while skinning them alive. This isn’t a red or blue issue. And it’s why the conservatives I have met almost universally support the death penalty for child abusers and murderers and terrorists, those same people that the left generally would NOT allow the capital punishment for.
Can’t hate crime people if they are the majority, can’t be a terrorist if you destroy a courthouse and kill a white person, but are if you storm the Capitol (yes, that was terrorism). The media is much further left than the average person, which is why we have open socialists who want far far more liberal policies than the average person.
My proof is countless court testimony’s. The fact that there are still 1,000s of missing children. There is something called an educated inference. Which has been backed by several other documents that shortly go “missing”. If given the time (maybe a week) I can go through my old files case of them. I typically print of these documents because as a kid I noticed they cured cancer twice and both people mysteriously died and had all of their paper work burned…
Which again is why i said CONSERVATIVE not republican… The only reason my state is a “blue” state is because of two big ass cities. Otherwise I live in a heavily conservative area. A LOT of people get trafficked/ threatened to. In fact my friend and I had to go to court. I dont know a single person who hasnt had that issue.
Okay, but you are still saying it is done almost exclusively by conservatives, at least by implication. I generally lean conservative (with wiggle room on social issues), but that doesn’t mean that sex crimes by the elite (who are usually liberal), or organized crime groups (who tend to be liberal), are somehow imputed onto conservatives. You may not intend to make it sound that way, but it does.
I am intending to sound that way. Because it is that way. If you can not comprehend that. That is not my fault. I know what I have experienced, I know what I have seen is true. I will never let another weirdo on the internet try to convince me otherwise simply because you have “proper” language. Ofc its not all conservatives but its damn near enough to be all.
Because I am a conservative and I do not appreciate the fact that I am become called, at least implicitly, some monster because of my political beliefs. The per capita rates of sex crimes and human trafficking is higher I. Liberal areas, and even if 1% of conservatives do it. This would be like me saying that liberals are child molesters because most teachers are liberal and statistically they are the most likely to engage in CSA.
I’m not saying it isn’t. I’m saying you are imputing it to conservatives en masse because of your own bias. I live in a MAGA hellhole. I deal with conservative morons every day. And most of them are deluded into thinking liberals are a bunch of child molesting commie Jewish insert whatever the current biases are against. You’re imputing YOUR experience onto everyone as if YOURS in particular is universal. It would be like the narwhal argument: I’ve never seen one, ergo they do not exist.
Immigration laws are also rather obtuse. We have draconian laws that mean that we don’t enforce them because they are dumb, but sometimes public safety demands we enforce them, but because of how draconian the laws are, how kafkaesque the bureaucracy, that it is a racist and xenophobic system. Enforcing it is a bad thing most of the time, but that means a lot of the time, when it would be good… they fail.
Well no other country is pushing for open borders to let any one in. The previous administration was actively IMPORTING millions of undocumented illegal immigrated by the airplane and bus load. Paying for their travel and shelter with taxpayer money. Paying for illegal citizens with hardworking taxpayer dollars. Let that sink in Meanwhile the hurricane victims that are citizens and lost everything, got nothing
Yes, and there are rich liberals who have literal sex slaves. You’re projecting to hell and back. This is not a liberal-conservative issue. I’m not diminishing that sex abuse happens. I’m saying this is an “I knew like 5 people sexually abused by conservatives,” without looking at the statistics that show it is pretty even. Most sex criminals are liberals, do with that what you will. I’m not accusing liberals of being perverts, because I know that they have the SAME RATES as conservatives.
Again, NOT saying no conservatives sexually abuse their kids, but 90% of us support the death penalty for CSA. You can claim it’s virtue signaling, but sexual abuse per capita is higher in liberal cities. Texas, California, and NY are the three biggest offenders in the USA, and two of those are liberal utopias.