One of my professors said “In large part it’s bc it was an attack on free speech & beliefs. While he was not a political candidate, it was a political assassination. He was part of a large movement, and its voice. Sadly, Very similar to past assassinations in this country” I don’t think he’s wrong.
I agree. School shootings deserves way more coverage. The unfortunately reality is as America, we’ve become desensitized to it. It’s almost “normal” to hear about mass shootings. And that is NOT okay. I think Charlie’s death has more coverage because of how public it was and the fact that he is popular. I think if the video of his death wasn’t available for all to see, it probably wouldn’t be this big.
there’s also a conspiracy theory, that he wasn’t meant to die, but he was meant to get shot in the shoulder. While watching the video he bring up “gang activity” and that was the code word, because as soon as he says it, he lowered the mic and then tenses up. if you watch his wife and kids, she covered their eyes before the shot was even released.
Extremist, in any party or group, or evil and or mental illness are both just that and all are not good. The sooner we all realize that n stop saying they were liberal or conservative, in attempt to “blame a party or group” and just call them what they are, mentally ill, evil and or an extremist, we will all be better off.
Because he was gunned down on a college campus in front of his wife and extremely young children and in front of so many people who looked up to him. I don’t agree with him in many aspects however he didn’t deserve that when all he was doing was debating people who had different opinions than him. There were stories of Charlie Kirk’s daughter running to her father because she was scared of the loud noise. How anyone could at the very least not send some prayers to the Kirk family is beyond me
Because it’s political violence and the first instance in a while of someone in the US being assassinated like that. Obviously school shooting deaths are bad and deserve attention, but it’s ignorant to say “why is the assassination of a political figure that almost everyone in our generation knew about getting so much attention? I just don’t get it!”
There’s no way this is a serious question. Charlie Kirk was an incredibly influential and important person to the youth of America. Yes, school shootings are incredibly sad, but Charlie Kirk affected millions of people and he stood for values that millions of people also valued. The scale is entirety different.
While the school shootings and kids whose lives were taken is horrible, the people going into those schools weren’t going with the intention of killing a person bc they disagreed with them. They don’t care who they kill they’re just going in to kill. Charlie Kirk was killed all because he was preaching the Bible and sharing his opinion and giving people a platform to speak even though they often times disagreed with him. This man shot and killed him because he didn’t agree with him.
I’m going to guess it is because he was more well known than the kids. Therefore pretty much everyone in the world has heard about his killing, whereas a smaller sample size hears about every school shooting. All of them are heinous and there is a huge mental health problem in our country. It is exacerbated by everyone demonizing the other side and being so averse to difference of opinion.
Criminals will be criminals. instead of banning guns and have no self defense towards the shooters (cops use guns when stopping the shooter) why don't we have armed guards outside of school or more security in schools to assure people their children are safe. banning guns will make shootings worse since they know no one is coming to kill then after. it's a sad world but we have to be logical.
but instead of it being his shoulder, it was his throat. they wanted him to get hurt, because they want to cover things up (the epstein files and such) and they knew Charlie Kirk would help do just that. and i personally believe he also did it for the fact if it did hit his shoulder, thousands of people would raise money for him and his family,
and he’d become a bigger person in social media and such. but it didn’t happen and he passed, which trump has now said he’s receiving a medal of honor or wtv. which Veterans get after passing in war. his family is also getting millions of dollars. it all being a set up. that trump wanted him to get shot, not die, but shot, so the Epstein files wouldn’t be talked about.
That’s a terrible terrible accusation, they could’ve easily used blank rounds and blood caps if they wanted it fake. In no scenario ever does someone take a live round for a political stunt because you will most likely die. You are incredibly deluded if you think that’s even a possibility
The point is yes it’s terrible what happened to him. School shooting where children are massacred affects all of us. Children have a right to go to school and feel safe in an environment where their only priority should be receiving a quality education. At the end of the day Charlie was someone who put a lot of hate into the universe. So yes, I have a lot of empathy for his children and wife but I’m not going to pretend he was some amazing person because he wasn’t. What we need is gun control
The other reason it’s getting so much news is because of the question “what/who is next?” This whole situation could escalate or spark something larger than just one man dying. School shootings can’t really escalate into a national situation. Don’t try to twist this into me saying school shootings aren’t a national issue btw because they absolutely are. I’m just saying there isn’t the potential for something like the George Floyd riots to happen because of school shootings unless one was extreme
And by extreme I mean like a school shooting with 50-100+ deaths because unfortunately everyone is desensitized to it all now and it won’t really shock anyone unless there’s numbers or something else that makes it seem more severe than others before it even though all acts of violence are equally horrible
Why do people keep saying this? Why can’t we be against both senseless killings? I personally was outraged by that one and am equally upset by the Kirk murder. Kirk gets more attention though because he was more well known I believe. I had never heard of the Hortman’s until their deaths.
He actually preached a lot of love and gave people from both beliefs a place to state their opinion even if he would disagree. He would also tell the crowd to chill if they were booing or not giving people respect. I never heard him spew hate….i did hear him disagree with other people, but that isn’t hatred.
And most people for abortion are okay with it up til birth….not just a few weeks old. That’s why they still hate the heartbeat bills. They wanna be able to just abort whenever they want. Kill whoever you feel isn’t worth as much as you….sounds like something I remember from history.
nice try, but you’re wrong. partial birth abortion was banned in name, not in practice. late-term abortions still happen under different procedures. and hiding behind the “mother’s life” excuse doesn’t change the fact you’re fine with killing the baby. you’re not defending women, you’re defending murder.
I don’t see a fetus has a human being- any argument that does boils down to religion which has no place in the law I will always support abortion if the mothers life is at stake - I would not force a women who did not want an abortion to have one unlike you who would force women to give birth to kids she doesn’t want and can’t support
You said NEVER so I my statement actually had plenty of standing. And some states have recently attempted to pass legislation allowing abortion AFTER birth. I am completely fine with abortion in the cases of life of the mother, grape, and inc3st. I feel like heartbeat bill is a decent medium. It admits the baby is a human life, but also allows a mother to”self defense” where she can take a life to protect her own life….not just protect her lifestyle.
A baby needs 24/7 care if women gets pregnant that’s already working 3 jobs she can’t fucking take care of that infant okay so life style is important you just think that the foster care system is all sunshine and rainbows??? We don’t need more kids we need more parents who are willing to do the work
You realize the situation you are stating is such a rare thing? On top of that, if you are so poor and working 3 jobs….you have time to go get impregnated so maybe you should have a man helping or you should use your hoe time to do child raising. Just a thought. If you can’t afford kids don’t go have unprotected sex. I’d even say don’t have protected sex if a condom break could destroy your life. Sex is an optional part of life….you don’t get to murder people who inconvenience you life.
exactly. having sex is a choice, abortion is killing an innocent human being. stop hiding behind “hard life” or “financial struggle” excuses. the baby didn’t choose this, the adults did. if you can’t handle the responsibility, don’t conceive. end of story. abortion isn’t a solution, it’s just convenience dressed up as compassion.
It’s funny because you have zero idea who I am or what my path in life was. Everything I stated is factual. You aren’t going to get pregnant if you don’t have sex. And if you are a single woman working 3 jobs to survive (I don’t believe that’s true) you wouldn’t be worrying about going out and getting laid.
not saying poor people shouldn’t reproduce. i’m saying that sex has consequences. lack of access to education or contraception is tragic, but it doesn’t change the fact that the baby is an innocent human life. ending it isn’t justice, it’s murder. taking responsibility for your actions doesn’t make you an asshole, killing a baby does.
Nobody is saying poor people shouldn’t reproduce. I’m saying if you make the choice to do so you shouldn’t kill what you produce. I could have a kid that’s 3 and lose my job. Stuff is going to get rough financially. Can I remove the kid because they’re a financial burden? What you are talking about to justify a massive amount of babies being aborted per year is a very small fraction of why abortions take place. Even if I said “okay so in those situations, sure, abort.” You still won’t agree
Well if you want people to keep having children or not to have abortions. You have to be willing to provide resources. Instead a lot of conservatives want to get rid of section 8, EBT, are against free lunch, and free healthcare, daycare assistance programs. If you want things to change you have to be willing to invest in society and the right is not willing to do that. In many conservative states sex ed is absence based. Maybe invest in planned parenthood ( they provide cancer screening, birth
You’re saying because it does not look like a person it isn’t. We are all “a clump of cells.” “Clump of cells” just sounds better to “remove” than “kill a baby.” It’s terminology to soften what it really is. Many abortions happen after the heartbeat. That’s why when states made heartbeat bills people still flipped out that it was restricting “reproductive rights,” even though it only protected human rights.
You already sound so dumb, assuming our genders on the other screen and acting like we don’t understand what we defend. Defending life isn’t about knowing every single bill, it’s about knowing the baby is human and deserves protection. Maybe learn some facts before trying to insult people.
That’s not a human baby yet. That’s why you also called the fetus, “it”. Which does not equal the life of an actual child dealing with gun violence. A fetus depends on a woman’s body, sucking her of her nutrients and can cause a great number of health issues. Literally, if women do not want to go through that, then so be it?? You act as if pregnancy is the easiest thing in the world and doesn’t also involve a high risk of death.
Sorry understanding the bill you defend is importsnt to defending it I never assumed your gender your probably a fucking man then who shouldn’t have say in this shit either until you have to carry a baby for 9 months in your ass ( which can make your teeth fallout btw) and then let us rip through genitials possibly tearing you from hole to hole then don’t fucking speak
I just find it hilarious that you’re telling me what I know. You know nothing about who I am or my background and I assure you that I know A LOT about what I’m saying. I am not speaking to you emotionally. It is all based on factual evidence. Seems like you needed to go speak to Charlie at a rally.
Don’t get pregnant then. Many people that aren’t in the womb suck the nutrients/finances of other people and they can’t be/shouldn’t be killed. To you does human life begin when the baby pops out of the mother? We cry over the murder of children, but the same people celebrate being able to have abortion as late as possible. People got angry when they didn’t want partial birth abortions anymore.
I hope no man ever has sex with you since you apparently think you will have complete ownership over the child that was produced by both of you. Women who think men have no say in matters of reproduction are the same ones who believe in forcing child support/alimony when they don’t allow the father access to the children. And then wonder why the children have issues without a father figure. I’m sorry you apparently have/had a rough life. I hope you will improve your life.
You clearly don’t give a fuck about anything except the possibility of a life. Pregnancy isn’t always a fucking choice. We have this beautiful right to this thing called “autonomy”, which protects you from having your organs taken against your will and used for those with diseased ones.
You are actually insane sorry I’m fucking disabled and can’t work most jobs sorry I’m fucking dirt poor and worked my ass off to get straights As through out highschool and college to make a better future for myself literally you sounds so dumb rn you are one of those people who think poor people should just work harder to not be poor huh
Human life begins when consciousness forms. That happens during late pregnancy. Late term abortions aren’t at all common. It only happens when the life of the mother is at risk or when the fetus is just not viable. And again, a fetus is completely, totally dependent on a women’s body to develop and grow. That is why politicians refer to women derogatorily as “hosts”, while simultaneously not recognizing that a fetus is comparable to a parasite. What you’re trying to compare is not logical
No it’s not it’s called building a life for myself you cannot work your way out of poverty only a few can and they pay the consequences dearly you have clearly never lived in a lower class area poverty is designed to keep you there I’m not going to educate you something you should already be aware of living in America
exactly and that’s the problem. most of these kids don’t even have a mother or father in their lives because the adults who created them weren’t willing to take responsibility. it’s not about the middle ages, it’s about basic accountability. sex might be fun, but if you create life, you owe that life care and protection, whether it’s convenient or not. and you seriously can’t deny the fact God made the world. tell me, where the hell do you think you came from?
If you like the sex how bout like the consequence? I like driving 100 mph. I could die. I could kill someone else. Should I be able to do it without regard for the lives of others because “I like it?” That sounds like a toddler point of view. I believe it’s around 1 million abortions in the USA alone yearly. I highly doubt the vast majority of those fall into the categories you believe. Most are out of pure selfishness and that a baby would inconvenience a mother’s life.
You obviously know nothing of how custody works. Men have no say in if a child is born or aborted, but even if they don’t want the child the girl can force them to have it and pay for it. And they pay way over the cost and the woman has nothing stopping her from using it for herself rather than kids…I see it all the time. Also, in a divorce a man that is no danger and didn’t do anything often still only gets 4 days a month with their kids. Even if the marriage ended due to the WOMAN cheating.
I know everything there is to know abt custody bc I dealt w it as a kid but okay you know how hard it is to keep a father away from his kids in most states? Even if he has a restraining order against him for assaulting his wife he still gets custody all courts try to give the parents split custody
I cannot argue that because I think it varies state to state. I know states like SC it is very hard for a dad to see his kids. Your situation sounds like shit though….if he was a violent offender he certainly shouldn’t have had his rights to custody/visitation. Hopefully you were safe.
Just so you know there’s still a law in WV that states if a husband breaks things in the house or for instance, stabs up the bed that his wife sleeps on… the cops can’t do anything because technically it’s “his” and he can break and stab things he owns you can’t make sweeping general policies in a country where it varies so much state per state
I just said that. It varies state to state. I only know of the state I live in and a few others where I have experience with the way it works. Here’s the thing, from the start, I do wish you the best and I do hope you get out of the situation you started in. I assure you it is possible and I am walking proof. (My dad wasn’t abusive to me or my mom, but financially it was a big struggle)
“I can’t stand the word empathy, I think empathy is a made up new age term and it does a lot of damage. Sympathy is a better word, because empathy means you are actually feeling what another person felt, and no one can feel what another person feels.” - Charlie Kirk You seem to be confused or just ignorant so here you go.
and that’s why we regulate who can access guns in the country????? y’all keep acting like ppl are attacking free speech and the right to bare arms, but all we want to do is the the racist fucks up and make kids feel safer in schools. you can bare arms, you can own firearms, but at the very least regulate how EASY it is to access them because for one what happened to charlie could have very well been avoided, along with the fact that we can stop “sacrificing”innocent children to these weapons.
lmao yes i care about the living breathing children trying to get something as basic as education without getting shot by deranged white men. i also care about the living breathing WOMEN who should be able to have complete control of their bodies and have the CHOICE of whether or not they want to give birth. the fetus is not viable outside the mother when abortions are legally available. even though i wouldn’t do it myself, i would never take that choice from someone else.
PEOPLE. IT IS CALLED SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE FOR A REASON. the moment you start bringing god into it, you’ve invalided your whole stance. separation of church and state makes sure that religious beliefs don’t get pushed onto other people in the country through our government because we are a MELTING POT. also, it may be in the PROCESS of becoming a human, but when it is not viable outside of the womb and is removed, it is not, nor was it ever truly alive.
The problem is a world that normalises violence and decides to point fingers at everyone but the specific perpetrator. Black people aren’t the issue. Immigrants aren’t the issue. Trans people aren’t the issue. The criminals are the fucking issue. Hate and blame is FAR too normalised. Crusades and a LOT of colonisation came from people who were christian. Does that means every Christian is awful? No, it doesn’t. It means the ones who acted on hate and violence are.
Yet y’all don’t give a shit once someone is born and, y’know, actually a living and separate being. Nothing to push for free healthcare, improved school funding/equipment/curriculum/supplies, free lunches, parental leave for parents, nothing to advocate against the numerous genocides happening, fucking NADA. Fix it.