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being undocumented in the united states is not a criminal offense being undocumented in the united states is not a criminal offense being undocumented in the united states is not a criminal offense
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Anonymous 14w

Repetition doesn’t make it true

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Anonymous 14w

Um yeah it actually is 🤣 Well, at least, when ā€œundocumentedā€ means you had no business coming here by way of circumventing the legal paths of immigration. Just because you like something doesn’t mean it’s not criminal. And just because you dislike something doesn’t mean it’s wrong.

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Anonymous 14w

Entering a country illegally should NOT entitle anyone to due process. I get that it does, but it shouldn’t. If you can not see we are being attacked in non-traditional ways, by Mexico and China. Just open your eyes and your mind, then maybe you’ll see it. Schools, public assistance and emergency rooms are overwhelmed in a lot of places bc of illegals. Not sorry.

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Anonymous 14w

It’s crime in pretty much every country in the world

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Anonymous 14w

Hence they don’t get ā€˜criminal’ due process. They get the immigration due process that was passed In 1997 by a democratic president

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Anonymous 14w

genuinely question for the original post, i thought that it was illegal to not be documented as an immigrant, is it not? for example, when i left the US on vacation, i had to go through customs with my passport and explain why i was visiting the country and for how long. are you saying it's not a criminal offense but instead a civil, or another type of offense, or that there isn't a law enforcing documentation for people coming and going in and out of countries?

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Anonymous 14w

Being undocumented isn’t a criminal offense. Crossing the border is. Hope this helps!

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Anonymous 14w

It’s a civil offense ppl not a criminal offense. Ppl come here to escape and have better lives. If anything a lot of ppl would be considered ā€œundocumentedā€ historically bc we were forcefully brought here. Luckily ancestry allows us to be born on US soil

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Anonymous 14w

Yes it is otherwise why are ice agents getting em

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Anonymous replying to -> blellow_cityscape51 14w

because it’s white nationalism at its finest.. this post isn’t my opinion it’s the law, being undocumented is a CIVIL offense which is the same crime level as copyright.. you can not be arrested for a civil offense and you sure as hell can’t be ripped from your job and family by armed men in civilian clothing pretending to be officers

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 14w

This post right now, 8:41am, completely changed my mind on immigration, its not a crime at all and thats a fact

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Anonymous replying to -> blellow_cityscape51 14w

Theres more to it but i doubt ya care, also anyone can be nationlist, blacks spanish asian, i double as black and filipino and im pretty nationalistic

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Anonymous replying to -> blellow_cityscape51 14w

this supports what i said? 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 14w

Oops wrong one

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Anonymous replying to -> blellow_cityscape51 14w

oh okay sorry i was just confused 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 14w

https://www.reddit.com/r/Askpolitics/s/Y4mIpPAzQX Man FUCK, every time i try to screen shot it never works but this was the post and comments i was looking at to get tje brain juices flowin but sorry for bothering ya that was mean

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Anonymous replying to -> blellow_cityscape51 14w

omg no don’t be sorry! thats such a good resource it’s awesome

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 14w

HAHAHA im getting mother babied on such a stupid app, reddit is so lazy i could do so better, my recourses suck anyways, no more scitzo posting for me im finna go touch some grass

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Anonymous replying to -> blellow_cityscape51 14w

LOL

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 14w

was this post about being undocumented or crossing the border?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 14w

Was my comment about being undocumented or crossing the border? OR BOTH???

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 14w

so you’re not helping anything you’re just making a statement make it make sense

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 14w

Please explain to me how people breaking the law and enter a country illegally and being deported equates to white nationalism? Because unless I missed something when you break a law there are consequences if you’re caught.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 14w

Yea this has been an issue that’s never talked about. I’m all for giving support to people in need, but at the same time, if we let just anyone and everyone in without regulations, chaos would ensue. We have already been experiencing crowding in places you’ve said, but I’m sure there are other issues not being discussed that are connected to the huge influx of immigrants.

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 14w

congrats not america

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 14w

It’s a civil offense and can lead to removal proceedings… so why is California protesting?

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 14w

The constitution can go fuck itself i guess?? I cant believe people actually say ā€œillegals dont deserve due process.ā€ What if you got deported without due process?? They would never have a chance to prove you were legal so….

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 14w

Entering the united states without proper inspection is a crime tho

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 14w

If they entered the country without proper inspection. They don’t

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 14w

So you support letting anyone and everyone into a country with no regulations whatsoever? Do you even understand the repercussions of that? People aren’t entitled to things just because they’re immigrants. American citizens aren’t even entitled to the things they should.

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 14w

No I never said that. Theres a medium between kidnapping working class families in vans and letting everyone in without regulation. I don’t understand how providing due process would hinder deportations unless they are *unjust deportations.* Due process only ensures that deportations are done with evidence of being a non-citizen. Due process is a founding principle of this country.

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 14w

You never answered my question anyways… what would you do if you were deported without due process

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 14w

Due process delays deportation while using up resources. There are people who are against using so many resources on illegal immigrants, especially with the huge influx in recent years. And you asked your question to #5. I’m not against due process, I just recognize that it’s not black and white

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 14w

How do you know they are illegal immigrants so you don’t waste the resources on them? Through due process. Its so people who should be here don’t get their lives ruined. People who deserve to be here have already been deported multiple times without due process.

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 14w

Due process is literally supposed to be black and white. Everyone on US soil gets due process. You literally could not pass a us citizenship test but you think you have the right to tell others they don’t deserve to be here. Its incredibly ironic and privileged 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 14w

it’s true. its not a criminal offense, it’s a civil offense, the same level offense as jay walking.

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Anonymous replying to -> #13 14w

False. Unless you can be deported for jaywalking

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 14w

Due process is practicing the right to a fair trial so the immigrants can plead their case in court. It doesn’t determine who’s illegal… Officials have people’s information in a database. When you cross a border, you give them that information. Failing to do so or not showing up in their database suggests you’re an illegal immigrant. Many countries deport illegals without making a fuss, why is it suddenly not okay with Americans?

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 14w

I have not been saying that people don’t have the right to be anywhere. Wanting our government to accept any and all immigrants willy nilly would be chaotic and consequential. Regulations and laws are placed for a reason. If you break it, it’s illegal. That’s it. For me, it’s not about not having empathy or thinking they’re all criminals or saying they don’t deserve whatever.

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 14w

ā€œUndocumentedā€ is a made up word created by activists. The statutory term is ā€œillegal alien.ā€

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 14w

Yeah so last I checked when someone gets caught for vandalism on a building they aren’t sent to a military grade prison where they’ll never see the light of day for the rest of their lives

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 14w

wow you almost got the point! the issue is these people shouldn’t be getting deported

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 14w

They most certainly should be lol

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 14w

Well then you should get put in jail for everything you’ve done thats illegal.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 14w

I don’t see your point here. Undocumented is a real, recognized word that can be used for any situation with lack of documentation, not just relating to immigrants. I don’t see how knowing the statutory term for anything is relevant or important to this discussion

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