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The fucking free will argument is so exhausting. Hes omnipotent. Hes complicit he’s not some bystander he’s literally planned all the horrible shit out for u and you say free will
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Anonymous 1d

They need to decide between “god knows and plans everything” and “god lets people do whatever they want”

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Anonymous 23h

exactly lmao he created everyone, knew the awful shit they’d do, and allowed it

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Anonymous 23h

Knowing and planning are not the same thing. Your argument against the existence of free will and omniscience is founded on a false dilemma.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 23h

Furthermore, God is omnipotent in capacity. God not intervening is the whole point of free will. We are just experiencing the consequences of our own decisions.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 23h

Why do people pray if they know it’s useless though?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 23h

“They know it’s useless”. No, it’s useless for people who don’t believe. It’s not useless if you actually believe. Sorry if it’s not the answer you wanna hear. I never believed praying is useless.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 23h

Okay then what is praying used for

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 23h

I’m wondering why people pray for their loved ones to be cured of illnesses and stuff like that, if they know it doesn’t actually change anything

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 23h

Also, prayer isn’t about what you’re supposed to get out of it, it’s about connection with God. Why should you expect things out of God when you make no effort to connect, or when you believe connecting is useless?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 23h

Again not true. Also again, prayer is not about usefulness. The fact you view it that way is why you probably don’t believe in God. The fact you keep saying prayer is about usefulness is telling that you have self serving motivations in your faith when the whole point is dethroning the self.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 23h

So can you tell me why people pray for things in their life to change? You keep avoiding that

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 23h

I already answered you on that. Prayer works when you believe and actually have a connection with God. But whether or not it works is not the point, that was never the motivation behind prayer. The point of prayer is to connect with God.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 23h

So the people who believe in god who pray for their loved ones to be cured of diseases or to get a better job opportunity, aren’t actually praying for those things? I’m confused why they don’t just connect with god by telling him they love him instead

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 22h

I wish I had a special explanation to satisfy your sensibilities, but prayer is about connecting with God and the motivations with which you enter prayer. We can ask for stuff, but that’s not what it’s about, and maybe the things we ask for aren’t always guaranteed, or maybe the stuff we ask for isn’t the best and we don’t know it.

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