Im not very engaged with politics and some of you may attack me for it. But the amount of hate in this country sickens me. Too many beliefs are pushed on people regardless of whether they’re good or bad. Why is it so hard to simply treat people with humanity and basic rights and move on? There will always be hateful people and stuff but at least the bare minimum wouldn’t be on the floor.
The amount of hate, false information, statements n just stupid opinions on this post alone is enough to justify me joining the walk away from the Democrats. Been slowing seeing the hate n incompetence on the left, no more, I’m out. I regret voting for KH. I Hope the party keeps falling apart… wit out me.
The majority of the reich have cheered for public executions (such as hanging Pence), minorities being eaten by wildlife in Florida, repeatedly call for Trans people to harmed, the list goes on and on and on… many who haven’t directly called for death have said nothing against any violent sentiments people like kkkirk or tRump push.
That’s my point. I’m a conservative independent. You should shut your loud mouth before you come out guns ablazing and swing the pendulum back to the Dems you ignorant shithead. Part of the reason conservatives are doing so well is because we’re quiet when we’re ahead, and then we vote. Be better.
sure, but do you get what I am trying to say? it’s horrible Kirk was murdered in front of his wife and kid but he has directly contributed to the violent authoritarian vibe we’re in right now and that’s why people don’t necessarily feel that mournful. also celebration of someone’s death (which has already happened) is not good but it isn’t equal to state sanctioned execution lol
do you not see how those two things are very different? (we also don’t know who killed him yet it could be a weirdo like John Lennon’s assassin). one is a random act of violence. the other is a state sanctioned act of violence. both are horrible but the first happens inevitably in any society with open access to guns (which Kirk really wanted actually) and the other is what happens in totalitarian hellscapes where free speech does not exist at all
So you’re a hypocrite. You purposely make the worst of the left indicative of the whole group but don’t do the same for the right. Republicans will ACTIVLEY talk about wanting slavery back and you’ll turn the other cheek but when a white Nazi shoots up a school and Fox calls them trans you get your tits in a twist about the violent left
I’m one of those independents. I voted for kh and jb in PA. It’s probably the most important swing state. Tomorrow I’m going to hr to report 10 of my coworkers. I’m never voting democrat again. Like ever. They need to just dissolve the party and restart. I will be voting red in 26 and 28 no matter the candidate. After that we’ll see. I’m not going to reward the kind of violence even if it goes against my personal views
Because it’s the paradox of tolerance. We can be kind and invite everyone to the table to eat, until we let in someone who believes that no one else should be there and all the food is for them. Then what? It goes against our principles to kick them out, but if we let them stay, they’ll starve everyone else
i understand that but my point is there is no bare minimum. People regardless of beliefs can and do treat others poorly and with disrespect. Theres no such thing as accountability anymore. Theres no such thing as educating. No such thing as discipline or understanding. Theres no base line and there never will be cause everyone can’t stand to even engage in a conversation with someone who believes in something different. Instead we all just cancel each other.
I’m kinda sick of this being used as everyone’s example. That’s all you got? Was it right for them to crack jokes about it? No. Did he die? No. And you say the majority of the right when it’s actually the minority. We all say stupid crap, but with Charlie Kirk it was taken to another level, which tells me how much of an impact the dude actually had. I don’t care if you say bad impact, I’m not gonna argue with you. But maybe get a new ss for your next debate.
I’m not going to defend people in my “party” who say stupid crap and support stupid things. I don’t need examples, I know it happens because I’m actually an informed citizen believe it or not. I’m just saying, if you want to get anywhere, use a different ss. That one sucks. As for yall being able to say the same thing, I don’t think so. The amount of hateful libs, even in my own family who can’t talk to us because of the hatred, is unbelievable.
You say that like I am I’m talking that the severity of cruelty is much higher on the right I’d even argue it’s required to an extent otherwise their values fall apart I can list countless examples both recent and historical to back this up. Like I can point to full fledged movements while all you have is saying “I don’t like some of my family” that’s disingenuous to say it’s anything larger than your personal family drama
Two democrats got shot one died not even 3 months ago and the right was clamoring for a third fourth and fifth. They brag about taxes putting death traps on its border. They want to erase trans people just straight up kill them and they glorify whenever one commits suicide. They wanted to hang Mike pence when he said Trump was out of control
The entire point of free speech is you can do it and everyone is allowed to vote accordingly. You can but this shirt and won’t be harmed. I’m not gonna vote for the side they wears this shirt. That’s the point. How stupid can you be that you just made that comparison? You don’t even understand the basic principle of free speech
You can speak freely and not die over it. That is illegal. A company retains the right to associate or not associate with that speech. That is not protected. Charlie Kirk was killed over speech. The govt can’t hurt him or persecute him over it. A company or any person can’t justify murder because someone said something. Wow you keep making yourself look dumber. Quit already
it literally is. do you know what a chilling effect is? I know that you don’t because you don’t understand the first amendment or free speech generally but I would suggest you look it up. being fired for your speech has a chilling effect. you literally WANT to discourage their speech you little fascist! lol
It literally isn't. Do you know what the word "literally" means? 😂😂 He can speak. Do you have to be friends with every Republican? By not being friends with them are you limiting their speech? No a toddler can figure that one out. He is alive. Charlie Kirk isn't because he was literally killed for speaking. That's limiting speech. Try again
I think it’s interesting you ignored me pointing out the very real trend of right wing violence and its glorification to talk about a damn t-shirt you don’t like. I know of superstores in South Carolina you should really check out because they’re much worse and they’re made at larger scale and again it isn’t the left doing it. But they get a pass right? Because we need to treat fascists like toddlers
Yet you won’t post it because you know it doesn’t exist. What right wing violence? We’re sitting here talking because a right wing figure was killed in broad daylight for his speech. Like holy shit you guys can’t help yourselves. Even Stephen king admitted he was wrong and he’s so rich it doesn’t matter. But yea keep showing that I am making the right decision
I literally gave a LIST and you wanna talk about one incident? Hell here’s two I DIDNT mention because I ran out of characters; pelosi and jan6 they made a mockery of a brutal murder their only hang up was that Nancy pelosi herself survived and they violently attempted a coup against our government because their fascist didn’t get elected.
Violently????? A veteran, civilian was murdered. Jan 6 was the calmest thing when compared to all the other “peaceful protests” that involved rapes, shootings, burning down buildings n cars, and all the theft n destruction that those of us who are awake and not asleep saw. But nice try.
Nazis ideas and beliefs are inherently built off of hate and pretty much that alone. Judging someone off of hate disguised as a political view is not the same as judging all democrats or republicans. yes both democrats and republicans have shown hate or lack of human decency, but American politics is not inherently rooted in hate.