Confessions on Yik Yak | I’ll never understand having kids just to raise them in poverty. You can’t afford to feed them. You’re moving them from state to state. You’re neglecting their health. You can’t afford to put them in sports, clubs, etc. You’re the reason they’re behind.

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I’ll never understand having kids just to raise them in poverty. You can’t afford to feed them. You’re moving them from state to state. You’re neglecting their health. You can’t afford to put them in sports, clubs, etc. You’re the reason they’re behind.

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Anonymous 17h

Don’t let the “this is eugenics” crowd see this post, they’ll bitch and moan and say poor people deserve to have kids go through the struggle with them too.

Anonymous 17h

I’ll never understand having kids, period

Anonymous 15h

i grew up poor with 3 siblings and every single one of us was an accident. my mom didn't even know she was pregnant with me till a week or two before she was in the third trimester. poor people generally aren't maliciously choosing to have poor kids. i mourn the childhood i could've had and i've dealt with having different lives than my friends, but it's disingenuous to act like it's inherently abusive to have a child while poor

Anonymous 16h

exactly why would you bring someone into the world knowing you cannot support them. i’m not against having kids, but at least wait until you’re financially stable if it’s a planned parenthood

Anonymous 16h

yeah, i don’t understand why my mom took the path that she chose. only 2/5 of her kids became productive members of society. it was really a setback and there could have been so many more opportunities for us.

Anonymous 14h

Honestly if a slightly unstable household has one kid, I get it. It happens, whatever, with enough love you can get through it. However, once these households start having MORE children, spreading a few resources even thinner, and lowering the quality of life for ALL of the kids, I get annoyed. Why are you birthing kids just to raise them suffering? How could you be so apathetic to the children you’re having and their lives? What is the end goal? It’s so frustrating because what the fuck

Anonymous 13h

This is exactly why I found a great family who were mentally, emotionally, and financially prepared for a child to adopt my daughter. We keep in touch and seeing how happy she is leaves me with 0 regrets in making that choice

Anonymous 15h

Yeah, these people have never worked a hard day in their life and somehow have the audacity to say that people who struggle shouldn't have families LOL.

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Anonymous 16h

What do you think people did before society existed? They just spawned in cheeseburgers and played soccer with logs? You’re deadass so privileged that you can’t imagine a world without organic matcha carrots and sports leagues

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Anonymous 15h

1. having kids is inherently selfish and there’s no real justification for it, but 2. imagine a world of only people who grew up rich 🤮🤮

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Anonymous

#3 16h

“before society existed” son 😭

Anonymous

#5 16h

also we were in poverty but it was NOT as bad as it could have been. it’s so much harder for other people to

Anonymous

#4 16h

Yes headass. Do you know how rare it was for a child to make it past the age of 6 in the past?

Anonymous

#3 16h

what does a child not making it past 6 before society existed have to do with anything? this is about having kids when you cannot afford to raise them well in current times

Anonymous

#4 16h

So by your logic, it was wrong for people in the past to have kids right? Because they couldn’t possibly raise them with the same standards your asking kids today to be raised with

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Anonymous

#3 16h

you’re* and no that’s not what i said 😭

Anonymous

#4 16h

That’s what you implied. I said it

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Anonymous

#3 16h

it’s not

Anonymous

#4 16h

It is

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Anonymous

#4 16h

If you have a real rebuttal you can post it otherwise there’s no point in you responding

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Anonymous

#3 16h

i can respond if i want

Anonymous

#6 15h

There’s nothing selfish about having kids. You’re just trying to be edgy

Anonymous

#6 15h

no one said u have to be rich?

Anonymous

#7 15h

Might as well tell people that since their lives are so miserable and they shouldn't a family, they should just off themselves

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Anonymous

#7 15h

Or you can just expect them to work themselves to death building everything you see and maintaining society.

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Anonymous

#7 15h

Everyone who upvoted this post is out of touch with reality

Anonymous

#7 15h

I couldn’t fathom being this dense and ignorant yet having this amount of confidence, I applaud you. How do you do it?

Anonymous

#7 15h

I mean, it’s a complex topic which calls for a lot of nuance in order to avoid skewing into unwarranted classism or even eugenicist territory but I think it’s similarly unwarranted to talk like everyone who agrees with the OP has “never worked a hard day in their life”, when they could’ve easily just come to that conclusion based on their own experiences with growing up in poverty

Anonymous

#2 15h

Potential Eugentics Vs Never worked a hard day. LOL

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Anonymous

#1 15h

Explain to me why the people with the least should be barred from enjoying family life.

Anonymous

#7 15h

I just don't understand how anyone with a brain can make the broad statement that poor people shouldn't have kids.

Anonymous

#8 15h

do i think my mom should've had me? no. and she didn't want kids because she didn't want to bring kids into a fucked up world. but she cared for us and loved us and we had enough support to grow up.

Anonymous 15h

Because dying doesn’t negate that I existed, lived and still struggle through poverty like I don’t get the correlation and I don’t think you do either. I have tried to kms, like flex I made it is that what you want to hear.

Anonymous 15h

Also, why would anyone share a x-claim off a personal anecdote. If they have come to the conclusion that their life in poverty is difficult, that doesn't justify the statement that poor people shouldn't have kids, and its obviously wrong of them to do that

Anonymous

#7 15h

Explain how and why people with this least should have kids, you just said they have less right so what are they providing; can’t be a totally stable life with no uprooting, can’t be constant and consistent affection and attention when both parents may have

Anonymous

#1 15h

to work, so explain why people with the least having kids makes sense.

Anonymous

#1 15h

Because it's a basic right? If you told poor people that they couldn't have kids, how do you think that would go?

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Anonymous

#1 15h

Bro you don't need consistent, constant affection with no uprooting to be happy

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Anonymous

#7 15h

It doesn’t matter cause they’ll do as they please but from a logical and moral standpoint it’s not ethical. Oh well I’m gonna be poor anyways and can’t truly provide for myself might as well have a child to not be lonely.

Anonymous

#1 15h

How? You can have a kid while homeless and still manage to maximize happiness

Anonymous

#7 15h

My friend was homeless from age 3, with his dad literally eating out of the trash, and he is genuinely one of the happiest people. He doesn't even complain about his childhood, and he has a six-figure job right now.

Anonymous 15h

jumping all the way to suicide-baiting when met with mild criticism isn’t an attitude I respect enough to dignify with a patient & carefully-worded reply if you wanted to be taken seriously or to change someone else’s mind then you could’ve challenged OP’s take without resorting to belligerence

Anonymous

#7 15h

You actually do need consistent care and affection to develop as an emotionally healthy and have well regulated individual. There’s a reason why people who have very little emotional and social regulation come from unstable homes, possibly broken homes.

Anonymous

#2 15h

How is it bait? It's a question to highlight a logical failure in the argument.

Anonymous

#7 15h

I bet he’s also is one of the funniest people too, yeah the happiest and funniest people we know usually have the darkest backstories and usually the loneliest person too.

Anonymous

#1 15h

Yeah, if you have a broken or unstable home, you shouldn't have kids, but those aren't always going to be the poor homes.

Anonymous

#7 15h

as if “oh yeah? well if you’re traumatized and unhappy then why are you still alive, huh?” isn’t itself an extremely obvious logical failure… if you cared about the point you were ostensibly trying to make, you would have done so without making light of suicide

Anonymous

#7 15h

But poor homes are more likely to be the unstable and broken homes.

Anonymous

#1 13h

I’m not in eugenics but I believe diversity has gone too far, like you see homeless kids in the cities and poverty everywhere. It one of the reason why ICE is doing forced sterilization

Anonymous

#11 13h

Uhhh just curious, where does diversity come into this?

Anonymous

#11 13h

Kidnapping children from their homes is not OK. That’s what they’re doing. What they’re doing is dragging people into the streets and brutally beating them. That is not okay. So like don’t start

Anonymous

#11 13h

No no forced sterilization is not a good thing, let’s not pretend it is or could ever be. No one should be subjected to a medical procedure they do not want. I don’t want to see any child homeless but taking away bodily autonomy not something to be okay with.

Anonymous

#10 13h

Most kids in poverty are minorities races, ice mostly arrested poor parents and kids

Anonymous

#12 13h

So you want to forcibly sterilize minorities?

Anonymous

#10 13h

I never said that, but I think CPS and ICE is doing the right thing in many of these cases

Anonymous

OP 13h

You literally said that poor parents are causing children to fall behind in life, so when the government hold them accountable all of a sudden you have a problem with that?

Anonymous

#12 13h

Okay so you don’t “want” them to, but you think they’re doing the right thing by forcibly sterilizing minorities

Anonymous

#10 13h

I’m talking about ice separating bad parents (usually in poverty) from kids. The parents are being held accountable for their actions

Anonymous

#12 13h

You joined in on a thread about the forcible sterilization of minorities, you should’ve made a different comment if you want to talk about something else

Anonymous

#10 13h

It would stop the behavior that OP described that makes poor kids fall behind in life

Anonymous

#11 13h

There’s no issue with holding people accountable, you mentioning ICE for example them removing people and families who should not be here okay great understandable, they aren’t supposed to be here. Them sterilizing someone and then deporting them is a problem, you don’t need to sterilize before you deport just deport the person. That crossing into what is done to Native Americans which was forced sterilization to decrease their population which was/is not okay.

Anonymous

#1 13h

You realize that native Americans are also in poverty too

Anonymous

#13 13h

And #1 is saying that forced sterilization is wrong even if anyone is in poverty. Hope this helps

Anonymous

#13 13h

And whose fault is that, the govt. Who gave them land, took it back and then gave them reservations but then continuously and yearly decimate those same areas, the same govt subjecting them to the harmful vicious cycle.

Anonymous

#13 13h

And on top of that Native Americans are supposed to be here, so I don’t understand correlation of we were talking ICE and illegal/undocumented migrants. How do you depart a Native American?

Anonymous

#1 13h

So if Native Americans who are in poverty have kids, wouldn’t they be bad parents then? Why is holding accountable a bad thing?

Anonymous

#13 13h

Holding bad parents accountable ✅ Forcibly sterilizing poor people ❎ Here I simplified it for you

Anonymous

#1 13h

Isn’t ICE already putting some Native American in immigration detention centers? It was on the news last year

Anonymous

#14 13h

Yes that was reported, yes people did call the tip line to report Native Americans, eventually they were released because there is nowhere to deport them to they are native to this land. They should’ve sued; but it doesn’t negate the fact that for the others being deported you don’t need to sterilize them before sending them on their way.

Anonymous

#1 13h

So then why are you saying that poor people don’t deserve to have kids, but poor Natives Americans is the exception to that rule?

Anonymous

#11 13h

I’m trying to find where #1 said they’re the exception, can you screenshot it for me pls. I’m blind

Anonymous

#11 13h

Not having kids is not the same as being sterilized, how do you not understand that.

Anonymous

#1 13h

THIS^^ sterilization is inhumane. we literally do that to DOGS

Anonymous

#4 13h

I can’t believe we arguing about forced sterilization on human beings - people, we lost the plot of this post.

Anonymous

#1 13h

Then why would you say that poor people shouldn’t be held accountable by sterilization? Otherwise they would keep repeating the same behavior

Anonymous

#11 13h

Because forced sterilization is wrong. I’d say hope this helps but unfortunately I think you just think it’s okay to sterilize people for being poor

Anonymous

#11 13h

You mentioned ICE sterilizing people, ICE is not sterilizing homeless American citizens, ice is not detaining homeless American citizens. ICE last I checked is immigration and customs enforcement, so who would they be sterilizing illegal/undocumented migrants; you tried to conflate poor Americans and illegal/undocumented migrants not my fault you can’t keep a one track mind.

Anonymous 13h

💩 take

Anonymous 13h

Just because we say they shouldn’t have kids because of lack of ability to provide doesn’t mean they should be forcibly sterilized, how do the two relate removing someone’s bodily autonomy?

Anonymous 13h

Circumstances can change. What happens when a person who was sterilized for being in poverty fixes their situation? What about the stable family who lives in poverty after the breadwinning parent loses their job? You don’t make a forcibly permanent choice over something so fluid like money

Anonymous 13h

Most farmers are poor, time to sterilize em 🤪

Anonymous 13h

Just say you’re racist and a cruel person, and be done with it. Like sterilization is inhumane, there’s no reason, and it can’t be explained any other way that it’s inhumane.

Anonymous

OP 13h

What did I say that was racist?

Anonymous

#11 13h

Asking that after deleting half your replies is gold

Anonymous

#11 13h

Anyways, would you like to explain your initial comment saying “diversity has gone too far”? And how that ties into the post?:)

Anonymous

#11 12h

Deadass, I believe you are just rage baiting to see how far you could take it. Especially after you deleted a lot of your responses. If not, then you and all the idiots upvoting you are freaking slow.

Anonymous

#11 12h

ICE doesn’t even force women to sterilize, this is completely false. It’s against federal law. You’re literally arguing over nothing

Anonymous

#16 12h

Yes they do, just because it’s in their policy doesn’t mean they following it

Anonymous

#11 12h

Pspsps hey buddy I asked you a question

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Anonymous

#11 12h

Can you provide evidence that ICE is doing that? You can’t because there is none. You’re just arguing for no reason

Anonymous

#16 12h

Those are imperialist lies

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Anonymous

#16 12h

The US is an evil empire that oppresses the vast majority of human beings alive so the American white upper class can live in opulence. Thanks for coming to my ted talk

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Anonymous

#3 11h

Give me one reason to have a child that isn’t based on YOUR own desire for a child. Just cuz it’s selfish doesn’t make it wrong, but it is selfish