Anonymous #1 2w

Butter is in the name for butterfly, is a butterfly a fly made of butter?

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Anonymous OP 2w

ok yes I would love to educate you on your own post 🫶🏽 There are many reasons and speculations as to why they’re called BUTTERflies. In Old English, people believed butterflies stole milk or butter from farms. That’s just one theory.

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Anonymous #1 2w

Are they butter though?

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Anonymous OP 2w

Engineering = designing, building, testing, optimizing, and maintaining systems/machines under constraints. And what do software ENGINEERS do?…..oh okay 😭😭😭

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Anonymous OP 2w

it’s literally just another branch of engineering……different engineers deal with different constraints….I can’t believe I’m even having to explain this to you. Are you even smart enough to be an engineer? 🤔

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Anonymous #1 2w

I mean by that logic, a teacher who writes their own curriculum is an engineer. If we wanna broaden the horizons we can, but let's be real, software engineers arent real engineers

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Anonymous OP 2w

😭😭😭😭 you sound so silly lol

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Anonymous #1 2w

Well I'm a software engineer because I was doing horribly at electrical engineering lol so no I'm not smart enough to be an engineer. I am smart enough to be a software engineer though, as many people are

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Anonymous OP 2w

Yikes, maybe reconsider your major? A teacher writing a lesson plan is not the same as ENGINEERING an operating system that runs a hospital or airplane. Please be serious. 😭 - comp sci major 🫶🏽

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Anonymous #1 2w

I don't have to reconsider my major, I already did lol and now I literally am employed as a software engineer

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Anonymous #1 2w

Conceptually, it is

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Anonymous OP 2w

And what do you do as a software engineer? Do you happen to…idk….engineer things? 😂😂

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Anonymous #1 2w

I just don't think in principle it really counts as engineering. Hence the post

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Anonymous OP 2w

It doesn’t matter what you think, software engineering IS engineering. Hence my replies. 😭

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Anonymous #1 2w

You're very defensive about my opinion lol it doesn't matter to me what you think

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Anonymous OP 2w

Nah, you’re just wrong. These are not my thoughts, these are literal definitions. 🙂‍↕️

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Anonymous #1 2w

Yeah and I just pointed out that the literal definition you gave can be applied to a teacher writing their curriculum to which you responded "that's silly" lol so clearly we both agree there's an element of nuance and just general opinion on what goes into what counts as engineering

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Anonymous OP 2w

bc that IS silly 😭 Creating something does not automatically make it engineering. Teachers create curriculum, writers create stories, chefs create recipes. That doesn’t make them engineers!??

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Anonymous OP 2w

Engineering requires designing, testing, optimizing, and maintaining complex systems under constraints, which teachers do not do. Software engineering is literally accredited as engineering. So your comparison doesn’t hold up AND your opinion is flat out wrong 😭

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Anonymous #1 2w

"designing, building, testing, optimizing, and maintaining systems/machines under constraints" a curriculum is edited between class periods and between school years based on response/feedback/performance of students. You are testing the curriculum every time you give a literal test or tweak things to see impact. You optimize by spending time on concepts most valuable and teaching skills in the most efficient way. You maintain systems under constraints because the constraints of your classroom—

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Anonymous #1 2w

—are timing constraints, constraints of the level your students are at (ie teaching special needs students differently than AP students), economic constraints (you can't assign online hw if 70% of your students don't have WiFi at home) etc

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Anonymous #1 2w

How is that different? Is it just a respectability thing? You wanna feel superior to a teacher because you think your job is harder?

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Anonymous #1 2w

Maintaining a classroom with 5-7 periods of 20-30 students with different learning needs and abilities and ambitions is a complex system

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Anonymous OP 2w

LOLLLL so now teachers are engineers but software ENGINEERS aren’t? 😭😭😭 do you see how silly you sound?

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Anonymous #1 2w

Point being neither is, and I'm showing my logic on how there is nuance and other considerations beyond the definition you gave as to what constitutes engineering. Hope that helps!

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Anonymous OP 2w

I wish it did, but unfortunately for u software engineering is, and I’ll say it again, literally accredited as engineering. And as a software engineer you SHOULD KNOW THAT 😭 so again…..you still sound silly…..

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Anonymous #1 2w

And I'll say again, i don't care lol my opinion and many people's opinions is that it's not actually engineering

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Anonymous OP 2w

Again, it doesn’t matter!!! The fact is that it IS engineering and you’re choosing to be ignorant to that fact lol 😭

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Anonymous #1 2w

The fact is my post was stating an opinion lol idk why you're so pissy about it

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