Anonymous #2 16w

this is why republicans are against higher education and want to dismantle the department!

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Anonymous #3 16w

it’s rare but if you’re religious and don’t use it as an excuse to be hateful Im willing to respect it if you don’t force it on others even if I don’t buy it

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Anonymous #2 16w

yeah but me personally i could only tolerate that on the level of friends. for relationships and future marriage, not compatible at all and ill check out

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Anonymous #3 16w

I can respect that and just wanted to be clear I wasn’t the downvote on that

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Anonymous #2 16w

lmao dw i bet it was just some alabama christian who voted for trump

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Anonymous #3 16w

Exactly. I vibe with people who are flexible in their beliefs, compassionate and actually.. fun. Being a conservative means being boring and no fun. Plus the whole… like hateful BS that comes along with it.

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Anonymous recursive 16w

agreed. i was religiously traumatized by my muslim mother growing up so i have a huge disdain for religion overall. thankfully my father is agnostic and stood up for me throughout my childhood.

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Anonymous #3 16w

for me growing up there was no love like christian guilt and guilt tripping had me believing everything I did was wrong :/

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Anonymous #2 16w

yup. that applies to islam as well. like ten years ago there was a huge fight between my mom, her parents (my grandparents), and my father because my grandparents wanted to enforce all these islamic rules on me. saying i should wear a headscarf, not wear shorts, pray everyday, not wear nail polish, and other crap that basically translated to not having a good childhood. my father went absolutely ballistic and threatened to divorce my mother over it and demanded my grandparents to stay out of it.

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Anonymous #3 16w

i was so young back then so i was mad at my father for causing a divide but growing up i realized he did me such a huge favor. and he even told me the only reason he didn't divorce my mom was because he was afraid she'd remarry another muslim man who would oppress me. my father has his problems but he never once failed to protect me.

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Anonymous #6 16w

i live in the bible belt and i’ve actually only met conservatives that are willing to be friends with me even after i tell them they have violent and oppressive beliefs, and i’m all the way left. they’re willing to be friends with someone they believe is a literal murderer (bc i’ve had an abortion) and they were actually surprised that i cared enough about that to end all of my best childhood friendships over it.

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Anonymous recursive 16w

How does conservative and boring correlate? It’s a political opinion, doesn’t control every part of your life

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Anonymous #4 16w

Yeah I’m conservative and friends with actual socialists, idk what the guy is talking about because my conservative friends are all more tolerant than my liberal friends

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Anonymous uzumaki 16w

ur not a liberal then, ur a moderate

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Anonymous #3 16w

Half true, moderately liberal, political views are in a spectrum

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Anonymous #12 16w

^^^ rs

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Anonymous uzumaki 16w

Notice how they downvote u when u aren’t fully on their side, yet then talk about how much better and accepting they are 💀

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Anonymous #12 16w

Fr these people are weirdos that find their identity in this shit

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Like look around and see how severely conservative policies are hurting everyone 😀 if you open your eyes for 0.5 seconds and have a functioning brain, it is impossible to be a conservative in 2025. Unless you’re a white Evangelical neo-Nazi in which case congratulations, you’re going to get everything you want.

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You’re a moron if you think colleges indoctrinate people.

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Anonymous #6 16w

i think it’s funny when my parents’ conservative friends say lgbtq+ people “make it their whole personality” while they don’t know i’m bi, but they have 2 confederate flags and a trump sticker on their truck

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Anonymous #14 16w

no hate, just genuinely curious about what conservative beliefs you agree with?

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Anonymous #16 16w

honestly i can see it as someone who is a leftist because there are so many people who are performative and say they’re not racist when their actions say otherwise. it’s sad

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Anonymous #19 16w

People like this just see politics like sports. They have no idea what any of it all means, they just believe whatever their dad beat into them as kids. “Yeah I play video games with brown and trans people, that basically cancels out me voting for the party promising to exterminate them 🤷‍♂️” like give me a break. If you call yourself a conservative you are complicit and it doesn’t matter how many Black friends you have.

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Anonymous #16 16w

🤦‍♀️ Malcolm X said to watch out for the white liberal because they are performative to disguise their underlying racism. Malcolm X was a leftist, and I guaran-fucking-tee he did not mean that you should buddy up with the white conservative instead.

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The current president and previous president has made laws that affected woman’s anatomy by attacking rode v wade case and executive orders which are usually meant for high stress situations to attack not only immigrants (regardless if they’re here legally or not) but also attempted to make a executive order to deport citizens…u can’t deport citizens that’s contradictory. Also there’s plenty of Neo-Nazi pride marches happening across country like in Ohio. I can give some articles that are known-

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Anonymous #17 16w

Conserving old boring culture. Gender norms. Cultural norms. Often wrapped in hate as their enforcement. I like artsy weird people who think about who they are, outside of boxes, categories and tradition. I also deeply value empathy. And you cant be conservative, demonizing people, enacting cruelty and have enough empathy to be somebody i can relate with.

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To be unbiased if you need

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Anonymous #13 16w

I do not give a fuck about being “accepting” of shitstains who voted for Trump.

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try interacting with “the trans and gay menace” and realizing hey they aren’t child predators like I’ve been told growing up constantly maybe I wasn’t told the truth and then doing my own research I didn’t go with what was around me as my college was about 50/50 split politically just got to actually see the people I was always told were evil and realize that was a stupid lie when I got out of my extremely limited veiw point from growing up

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Anonymous #16 16w

As a queer person, i dont feel safe with conservatives :p Plus i find all that tradition and performative masculinity boring. And how they are either implicitly okay with people being rounded up and subjected to human rights abuses or actively encourage it

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Anonymous #18 16w

Exactly this

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Anonymous #13 16w

People who say shit like this are incapable of understanding politics more deeply than as a team sport like football. Of fucking course my politics are part of my identity, the other side has legitimately called people like me vermin and said they want to exterminate us. So naïve it goes beyond it and is just willful fucking stupidity.

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Anonymous #3 16w

liberals are still on the right so does it even matter

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Anonymous uzumaki 16w

What are you conserving though? Old school Outdated cultural values and norms? Casually being okay with repression of queer people or “others” Boring. I like artsy weirdos who feel too much. Im just not compatible with conservatives. I dont enjoy them, so why associate.

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Anonymous #18 16w

Get a load of this guy😂😂

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Anonymous recursive 16w

This. The new wave of false Christians talking about “the sin of empathy” really cements how much the modern day conservative platform is just “cruelty for cruelty’s sake”.

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Anonymous #8 16w

Conserving traditional societal norms. A conservative outlook on life. I like weird artsy people. Dress weird, be queer, alt. Conservative cultures are called “conservative”. Traditional. Old school. Boring ASF. Narrow ideas of how to Exist.

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Anonymous uzumaki 16w

Plus its my personal preference. Conservative people make my attraction die. Idk. I dont feel safe with them or feel attracted.

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Anonymous #9 16w

yeah that’s not a good thing

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Anonymous #19 16w

I am big with family values, policies that don't disenfranchise men for being men, most conservative economic policies (except tariffs), not eliminating but reducing how common abortions are, stuff like that.

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Anonymous #14 16w

See, and i wouldn’t vibe with somebody like that as a girlfriend or a friend. Because my lifestyle is a polar opposite to most of these things. “Disenfranchise men for being men” i think alot of the aspects of masculine socialization and what a “man” is as socially defined are yucky with alot of BS patriarchy built it that i dont enjoy/get in the way of having fun.

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Anonymous #14 16w

“Family values” like Donald Trump? Conservative economic policies like horse-and-sparrow theory? And you know Republicans stated position is a nationwide ban on abortion, right? The only proven effective way to reduce abortions is to give better sex education and more rights for women, both of which conservatives are rapidly eroding. I won’t touch the “disenfranchising men” thing because you’re clearly on some wackadoo shit if you think men are the truly oppressed ones.

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Anonymous recursive 16w

That quote I was specifically referencing DEI policies that would otherwise hire a capable dude, instead they hire someone less qualified just to meet a quota type shit. Ofc this doesn't happen in all scenarios, I just would never vote for someone that would decrease my chances to get a job because of what's between my legs.

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Anonymous #14 16w

This literally never happens. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what DEI is.

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Anonymous #18 16w

You’re a moron if you think they don’t. Any learning/teaching platform is just that…a platform. To mold the mind.

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Anonymous #18 16w

It does. Even my mentor, who was a woman, while working as an intern was telling me about their process that companies go through and how to stand out despite the limitations.

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Anonymous #22 16w

and educating people statistically brings them further left 👍

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Anonymous #21 16w

And thats fine!! I like legit dont want conservative friends. I like that my blue hair and nail polish means conservative girls wont even look at me. Its like an automatic filter for people who ill actually be compatible with and have fun with. Either as friends or as lovers. Why associate with people i find boring, or feel unsafe around?

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Anonymous #18 16w

What are you trying to say 😭. All I’m saying is having any political party with a majority of power and successfully pushing a radical agenda is not good no matter what your beliefs are. There should be a compromise between both parties so that there are checks and balances and we avoid a radical agenda being implemented, like we see now. It’s absolutely terrifying because either side with complete control can do just about anything they want… and not even in reason

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Anonymous #3 16w

Im sorry you had that experience. That sounds really freaking tough. Your dad stood up and thats admirable.

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Anonymous recursive 16w

Conservative girls don’t paint their nails? I agree with your point tho! Who wants to be around people you’re just going to argue with over stuff you’re passionate about and hold near and dear to yourself?

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Anonymous #21 16w

both republicans and democrats are still on the right. look up the overton window. there is a radical agenda, it’s called fascism. not exclusive to republicans

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Anonymous #21 16w

Im a guy lol. Conservative girls arent cool with a guy like me. Im a dude and i have wild ass nail art sometimes cause i enjoy painting dnd chars or whatever. I wanna not be bound to “what a man should be” or be shamed for being soft, feeling too much, enjoying stupid shit like nail polish, hair dye, piercings, or just.. whatever random esoteric stuff i can get up to on a weekend.

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Anonymous #21 16w

Conservative girls arent gonna enjoy like.. dnd, slam poetry, maybe a drag show or burlesque night. Conservative girls usually wouldn’t enjoy celebrating beltaine. Or attending a weird erotic puppet show.

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i was dating a right leaning man for 5 years and ended the relationship bc he became more and more far right over the last 6 months… and as a scientist that relies heavily on federal funding losing so many grants over stupid shit and having him claim that my “research wasn’t important” sealed the deal of me leaving. bc breast cancer research isn’t important :) lol ofc

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Anonymous #18 16w

Severely conservative and severely liberal policies both hurt. There is nothing wrong with being conservative or liberal. But when you take it to either extreme is when it’s harmful

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Anonymous #4 16w

Universities due tend to bring people to the left. However as someone who is conservative and has attended a university. I can tell you first hand, that conservative viewpoints are put down, aren’t as openly acceptable, professors are more left leaning, and discuss politics regularly. Including telling students if they don’t vote a certain way they’re idiots. So indoctrinated young adults follow the ideas they’re being told to believe in

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read the room you never heard that before yea I bet you also never heard that Hitler was evil huh Some shit just makes fucking sense and when there’s one person avoiding the very obvious truth, it’s obvious what side they’re on.

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Anonymous #28 16w

Im already a pretty dang successful ML/software engineer. So it already has?

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Anonymous recursive 16w

Still got 30+ years to go so wouldnt be closed minded just yet

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Anonymous #28 16w

I interact at work? Just cause i dont enjoy somebody doesnt mean i cant tolerate them for a work project. I just feel anxious around them and dont want to befriend them or date them outside of work? I feel uncomfortable around conservatives. Like judged or whatever for being genderqueer. 🤷

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Anonymous recursive 16w

So why are you allowed to judge people based on who they are but others cant do the same? I personally dont think anyone should judge anyone. I think looking past political beliefs will make not only you better but everyone better

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Anonymous #28 16w

How you are born as isnt the same as choosing to have hateful beliefs. Being conservative isnt “who you are” youre not born that way. You choose to be okay with things. I dislike conservatives. Im not compatible and dont enjoy them as friends. Like say, ill work with them.but wont invite them to my home, wont hang outside work, etc.

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Anonymous recursive 16w

Conservative beliefs are “hateful” in your opinion and you are closing doors with people based on your opinion on their beliefs. Just cause someone says they are a conservative doesnt mean they dont like you for who you are and if it does then that particular conservative isnt a friend not the whole group

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Anonymous #28 16w

Youre right, conservatives can definitely like me for who i am!! They just vote for me to have less rights! To make my life barder at every turn. But hey, hes just in to for taxes and willing to accept people like be getting fucked up as “collateral damage” But hey, i bet they make great BBQ! Boy, was i shallow. Nah. I dont enjoy conservative people? Like as friends. We arent compatible. Im selective with who I befriend or date because im only investing energy in people who i find joy in.

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Anonymous recursive 16w

No one is taking away your rights thats some made up nonsense

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Anonymous #28 16w

Oh. Silly me. The way this law was written, its a felony for a man to wear makeup and a dress in a public space. https://apnews.com/article/tennessee-drag-shows-ban-1bd25d455d13f81c0cab43674a054dd9 Forcing some of us to be outed when we go on vacation which risks violence? https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/transgender-and-nonbinary-people-take-trump-to-court-over-passport-restrictions

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Anonymous #28 16w

Taking children from their parents https://www.wfyi.org/news/articles/interview-after-dcs-took-custody-of-their-trans-child-they-sued-and-lost-now-theyre-asking-the-supreme-court-to-weigh-in Then human rights watch elaborating on some of the other ways they chip away. https://www.hrw.org/news/2025/01/23/trump-administration-moves-reject-transgender-identity-rights

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Anonymous #28 16w

Its “just politics” till it directly impacts your ability to do normal things anybody else can do. Also he removed discrimination protections from employers for trans/nb people. Sooo….

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Anonymous recursive 16w

Again. Im genderqueer. Im still a guy, but i present non conforming/dont care/wear what i want(usually just look like an alty blue haired dude) But like.. the fact my friends who are binary trans or whatever. Or if i was just a lil more queer. The fact that people lose their rights. Is gross. You dont notice because its “just Politics” for you. Becuase youre lucky enough not to be targeted.

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Anonymous #20 16w

How have current presidents and previous presidents attacked roe v wade? Also how would this affect women’s anatomy?

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Anonymous #33 16w

amy coney barett (appointed by trump) was chosen literally because of her far right stances on immigration, abortion, and healthcare. roe wasn’t overturned until biden (who still had the ability to protect it if i recall correctly and didn’t)

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Anonymous #35 16w

Sure. Just means i dont want to date or befriend you? We aren’t compatible and have wholly different outlook on life.

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Anonymous #36 16w

🙄 OP: “I’m not interested in being friends with you.” #36, through tears:

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Anonymous #34 16w

biden tried his hardest but he came into a mostly republican congress which is where those laws are decided. he doesn’t create them and his veto can be overridden. politics are very tricky and it’s frustrating when there are people who refuse to learn (not saying you specifically aren’t cause idk you). and now that we have a fully republican administration down to the supreme court, laws won’t be changed back for probably 30 or so years. i’ll be shocked if it’s less. trump appointed specific…

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Anonymous #37 16w

people in order to pass the bills that have been passed and then wants things to be blamed on the previous administration when it wasn’t their fault. as long as amy coney barrett and clarence thomas are alive, rights are always going to be threatened. the only right thomas won’t go after us interracial marriage because he’s married to a white woman. he’s gone after every other thing under the sun like immigration, reproductive rights, and gay marriage.

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Anonymous #33 16w

Youre kidding right?

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Anonymous #33 16w

just say you have absolutely no critical thinking skills

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Anonymous #18 16w

I voted Kamala but conservatives are much better on several policies, such as home construction, border security and trans laws. If Democrats could stop making it so hard to construct houses and close the borders, Republicans would never win national elections. Democrats are much better on healthcare, the economy, public transportation and abortion but they’re so unbelievably wrong on a few prominent issues that voters forget that.

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Anonymous #40 16w

Genocider 🤮🤮🤮

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Anonymous #40 16w

Forgot minimum wage, Democrats are better there too.

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#18: explains their opinion succinctly, providing justification you: “this lacks depth and has no backing”

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Anonymous #41 16w

Their justification was basically “the other side sucks and if you aren’t stupid you’d see that” though so I’d agree it lacks both depth and backing.

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Anonymous #40 16w

Their justification was, almost verbatim, “Conservative policies are hurting everyone right now”. Which is a valid argument and completely defensible.

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Anonymous #40 16w

Another thing super gross is conservative men who will pretend to be “not political” or “centrists” so they can get laid. Lame asses.

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Anonymous recursive 16w

understandable for sure but again, not all of us are the same! but differences in opinion is what makes us stronger as a nation but people may have had some traumatic experiences that form their beliefs, understanding one another's feelings and beliefs is the only way for this nation to actually become a whole. u dont have to like them but being respectful abt others opinions is very respectful especially if u dont know what they have been through!

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Anonymous #41 16w

It’s valid but it has no depth and as that person said, it wasn’t backed. The backing was that anyone who doesn’t agree is 1. blind 2. brainless or 3. a nazi. #18 didn’t leave the first two levels of the pyramid, so #15 was 100% correct.

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Anonymous #22 16w

Recently learned Reagan ripped away any chance of free local college education because he was scared of an educated proletariat and wanted people to not know/understand exploitative policies

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Anonymous #35 16w

We have to be respectful of others’ RIGHT to have different opinions from us. That does not mean all opinions are respectable. For example, if somebody says, “In my opinion, all transgender people are pedophiles and they should go to prison.” That is an example of an opinion I cannot respect and have to oppose firmly, because it is rooted in the belief that it is okay to deny someone their civil rights. And violations of people’s civil rights is exactly why the nation is divided rn.

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Anonymous #39 16w

Based

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Anonymous #26 16w

i feel like this greatly depends on the spaces that you’re in and where you go to college/university because that hasn’t been my experience at all lmao. besides professors, i will say i’ve gotten more lenience and kindness from my left leaning professors due to my mental struggles. i can really only think of one professor who spoke about politics but it wasn’t outright just alluded to it. my other professors just taught the class.

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Anonymous #40 16w

This pyramid is for making an argument. #18 was concurring with OP and #1. There was no central point to refute. You are actually the person who the pyramid applies to. And since you provided no supporting evidence, you are currently stuck at the “contradiction” level. If you want to rise a level or two, you can explain why you think it is untrue that conservative policies are harming everyone right now. I prefer APA-style citations, but MLA will also suffice.

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Anonymous #40 16w

Oops. Didn’t notice you are actually not #15. My point stands.

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Anonymous #40 16w

if I recall correctly #15 said something to the effect of “what does ‘read the room’ mean?”

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Anonymous #40 16w

i.e. there really was no argument to refute. I’m happy to refute the central point of any argument you provide, and would thoroughly enjoy doing so. But #15 was just being dumb, so I responded in kind.

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Anonymous #41 16w

oh i agree with this 100% but an example thats personal to me is the immigration policy happening right now, my grandma came over from germany with her family of 9 and it took 10 years to get green cards for them all, 2 weeks after they left their village was bombed and everyone died, they went about it the correct and legal way, even during such a scary time. i dont hate immigrants but i hate how the illegal ones are making an impression about ALL immigrants even the legal ones.

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Anonymous #37 16w

ty for the correction, you said what i was trying to but much better

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Anonymous #44 16w

Good for you, but I would never

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Anonymous #35 16w

That would affect me too, but violating the US Constitution to send legal residents and even citizens of this country to a foreign prison that no inmate leaves and then ignoring the ruling of the highest court in the land to stop doing it and even threatening to arrest SC justices…that is not immigration policy I will ever, under any circumstances, side with. That is not blind hatred for conservative policy. My eyes are wide open, thank you very much.

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Anonymous #32 16w

“Don’t judge me for being okay with human rights violations! Wait until you hear WHY I’m okay with the government violating people’s fundamental rights!”

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Anonymous #29 16w

Redheads aren’t the ones making it difficult for me to receive lifesaving medical care if, God forbid, I ever get pregnant, have a miscarriage, get an infection, and go septic!

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Anonymous recursive 16w

unrelated but: do u know how long it took me to memorize how samhain is pronounced?????? too long for my pasty irish-descended ass

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Anonymous #18 16w

It enrages me when they talk about empathy being a sin. As the Bible says: “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil.” That’s from Isaiah 5:20.

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Anonymous #40 16w

fun fact democrats push bills like this and republicans are the ones who block them. especially when it comes to housing and borders. republicans are funded by certain groups like oil corporations and the NRA and they have specific requests on what they want republicans to do in politics and it’s never for the benefit of the people. it’s always for the benefit of their company profits.

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Anonymous #14 16w

If your chances to get the job decrease because the system was previously rigged in your favor and now you only have a 98% chance of getting the job as opposed to the previous 99%, then yes, I do think your chances should be lowered.

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Anonymous #22 16w

when going to college and learning from people with doctorate degrees i wouldn’t necessarily believe that someone is being indoctrinated. they are simply learning. in college, professors RARELY express their political ideation and instead push you to go find your own credible sources to back your statement and if you can’t, maybe it’s because something with your statement doesn’t add up. i’m saying this as someone who studies politics because all of my profs have PHDs and not once have i read…

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Anonymous #37 16w

their personal research. they always push for people to do their own and form their own opinions based off actual scholars and not just news articles that are published with bias. not all scholars believe the same exact thing but they all do have similar findings and they leave their bias out the door. it’s why it’s called political science, because it’s science and not personal bias.

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Anonymous #4 16w

you think being friends with socialists is bad? oh sweetie. never visit europe.

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Anonymous #41 16w

i never said that lmfao i’m european and a communist you dipshit

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Anonymous #41 16w

tolerance in this case is complete indifference. indifference is what it takes to be tolerant in the face of unspeakable violence

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Anonymous #35 16w

in this climate it’s not republican vs democrat-i don’t believe in the 2 party system- it’s everyone vs a greedy, corrupt dementia patient

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Anonymous #45 16w

the thing about me is i love talking abt politics especially with people who have different opinions bc i feel like i learn so much from them and it tells you abt their experiences and their morals and i like understanding how everyone's unique experiences shape their views. it just sucks bc i cant find anyone to talk to abt politics because everyone is just so close minded and they r so quick to shut me down.

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Anonymous #41 16w

Lol, nobody’s denied care for miscarriages. That’s propaganda

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Anonymous #29 16w

They don’t flat out deny stabilizing care to a woman who is actively dying. But the law is ambiguous, and doctors are advised by legal counsel not to perform a D&C or similar procedures until it is a) absolutely certain that the fetus is already dead or b) that the woman absolutely will die if it is not performed. For too many women, it is too late by the time either condition is fulfilled. Women absolutely do die and are dying as a result of abortion laws. Sepsis is extremely dangerous.

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Anonymous #18 16w

Maybe not but it’s better to be with someone you know will be what they are instead of someone you have no idea who they could be

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Anonymous recursive 16w

Conservatives don’t care if you’re apart of the community they just don’t like when you force your beliefs on to them or kids just like yall don’t like Christians forcing their beliefs on to you. I think it’s more about safety than anything. Bc that girl in GA was killed by an illegal immigrant they only want the illegals rounded up and more so the criminal illegals

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Anonymous recursive 16w

But I can understand your view

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Anonymous recursive 16w

I value the idea of the traditional family, i want to have a traditional family, but not at the expense of the women’s freedom of expression. As for lgbtq, i believe their gender should not determine how we treat them. Its not my business who ur attracted to. As a immigrant, i believe everyone should be given due process to apply for citizenship, if they came here legally. If not then, they cant demand that. I disagree with deporting legal immigrants bc of political affiliations

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Anonymous recursive 16w

Yeah we are all allowed to have preference, Its only a problem when its used to justify hate towards a group. Not saying thats wat ur doing, but thats wats often portrayed in media

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Anonymous #21 16w

Are you seeing why democracy doesn’t work yet

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Anonymous #35 16w

bruh i engaged in good faith with you about politics like two comments up in this chain and you ignored that and now you’re like “no one wants to talk politics with me 😭 they just shut me down 😭” and that makes me think that possibly, just possibly, you don’t want to talk to people about politics unless they agree with you lol

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Anonymous #41 16w

no i said i completely agreed with u i think i just get scared bc i feel like everyone is coming for me haha

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Anonymous #35 16w

Okay. I’m not trying to go for your throat. But like, if you openly say you are in support of the immigration policy of the administration that is illegally kidnapping people off the street for being any kind of immigrant, is it really surprising that people who are hurt and scared of being thrown into prison take that as more than a casual chat about opinions? Like, this is life and death for a lot of people. Like it was for your ancestors who came here from Germany and barely escaped death.

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Anonymous #41 16w

i thought i mentioned in my comment before but i think i didnt have enough room, but i dont like what they are doing at ALL i agree with deportation of only illegals especially the ones who are child molesters, bring highly illegal drugs into the country and overall are bringing down the economy but not just any random people. i think that what they are doing is very bad but a lot of those people that are being are put in those prisons are bad people, but some aren't and just got dragged there.

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Anonymous #41 16w

i feel its also sad because a lot of our taxpayer dollars went towards supporting those illegals that came into the country and are getting phones and checks from the government. and what sucks even more is there are veterans on the street, people who put their life on the line for our country. i think it got way too bad under the biden administration. it should have never gotten this bad.

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Anonymous #35 16w

Actually many of the people they are detaining do not even have criminal records. Many of them aren’t even illegal immigrants. There is no evidence that Kilmar Abrego Garcia has ever been a gang member, for example. And more importantly, these people are not getting trials!!! They aren’t getting the chance to argue their innocence! And even undocumented people pay taxes, although they cannot benefit from the Social Security system or Medicaid or the other systems their taxes go to.

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Anonymous #41 16w

my mom actually gets people approved for medicaid and she sees cases all the time of illegal immigrants getting approved i may be wrong tho. i just think it is very sad thy many innocent people are being taken but i feel like if wasnt as big of an issue as it is a lot of this wouldnt have happened

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Anonymous #35 16w

And by the way, the reason there are so many veterans on the street is because the government has hung them out to dry. It is not because of the government sending random checks to undocumented immigrants. And for the record, my grandmother with dementia has had her Medicaid application completely ignored THREE TIMES. My parents are having to pay their retirement savings to put her in a shitty private nursing home. That is not because of immigrants — it’s because of Republican policies!

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Anonymous #41 16w

i was saying that i feel like a lot of our taxpayer dollars goes towards supporting illegal immigrants by giving them stuff to survive when they come to America, those taxpayer dollars should be going toward new roads, education and better pay for teachers, and things that actually benefit our country and not people who come to this country unfairly and those policies were under the biden administration and also my mom had dealt with many cases thru the years and many were under biden's term

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Anonymous #35 16w

Okay, you “feel” like a significant amount of taxpayer dollars are going to support illegal immigrants, but what I am telling you is that that is factually not the case. When someone enters the country under the radar, they do not get a welcome package. And they are still paying into the tax-funded public services they do get, because even if you do not have a social security number you still have a tax identification number (TIN) and still have to file.

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Anonymous #41 16w

Ohh noo, the people who raped and murdered countless civilians across the world are living on the streets!! This is a tragedy

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Anonymous #39 16w

Go back and read what I actually said.

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Anonymous #41 16w

i understand that, another thing people oppose me on is my stance on abortion. now im gonna say this first, i support abortion but in certain cases. i feel that if it indangers the life of the mother, if it as product of rape or incest or if the child is under 18, then it should be allowed but i dont think getting rid of it completely is ok at ALL. why force a child to have a baby, or a victim to give birth to a baby she didnt want because she was raped. but notusing itas a form ofbirth control

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Anonymous #35 16w

So you view abortion as a birth control issue. Thats an interesting take. So what makes you think you have the right to decide other people’s birth control?

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Anonymous #35 16w

Bad news for you buddy. I have decided you are no longer allowed to use condoms. Ruh roh!

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Anonymous #39 16w

now im not saying everyone uses it as birth control because that's definitely not the case but if you are having unprotected sex and not using the pill, or condoms, or anything like that i kinda feel like it is their fault. now everyone should be able to do what they want with their bodies but if you are constantly getting them (bc there are people who do) then i think it abuses a lot of things. i think there are cases where they are deemed necessary but not always on a day to day basis.

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Anonymous #35 16w

Youre contradicting yourself. You think people should have the right to do what they want with their bodies, unless they get “too many abortions” in which case you think abortions should be prohibited

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Anonymous #39 16w

It isn’t their body. It is a baby

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Anonymous #35 16w

Do you know a single person who is “constantly” getting abortions? Because where I am in the US, you are so unlikely to be able to get one in time (limit is 6 weeks, and the count actually starts 2 weeks before fertilization, so the minute you get pregnant you have about one month to hopefully miss a period and notice it!) that you would probably have to go out of state and pay thousands of dollars out of pocket. People are not using abortion as regular contraception.

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Anonymous #39 16w

ok i will clarify cause i reread it i see what ur saying. i think if it is medically necessary or falls under the other things i mentioned like rape, under 18, or it is a product of incest, then yeah u should be able to. but if you are out having unprotected sex then i dont agree with it. does that make a little more sense?

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Anonymous #33 16w

can u clarify this a little bit more? i feel like i sorta understand but not really.

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Anonymous #33 16w

it is also their body. it’s a baby AND it’s their body. if you can’t see the personhood in the person who is pregnant then you are truly delusional.

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Anonymous #41 16w

when i mean all the time im talking about when abortion was still fully legal b4 roe v wade was overturned. i feel like people were taking advantage of the clinics a bit too much

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Anonymous #33 16w

Even assuming a pre-viable fetus is exactly the same as a viable baby, if it comes down to the life of the pre-viable baby or the life of the mother, I am picking the life of the mother. If she dies the baby will die, too. I know people who have had to make that choice. People who defend abortion rights don’t hate infants. We mostly just want pregnancy complications not to be a potential death sentence for the mother, and for 10-year-olds not to have their hips fucked up forever from childbirth.

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Anonymous #48 16w

i feel like what im gathering is you obviously support abortion. i just feel if u have unprotected sex it is no one's fault but you and your partner's fault. unless it is one of those reasons i listed above on why abortion would be necessary i just dont agree with if. i know a lot of girls sho have had abortions and i helped them every step of the way, but do i fully agree with it? no. but will i make sure they are heard, cared for and loved? yes i will. im not a monster

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Anonymous #41 16w

100%!!! u can always have another baby(ik some ppl have fertility issues and it might be hard to conceive) but u CANNOT make another mother

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Anonymous #39 16w

Its mental gymnastics to justify shit when they feel unsafe vs safe. Tiresome right winger BS. Like for friends. Is it even worth this energy? Knowing when theyre around their”safe environments” the real ugly crap leeches out. You can wrap it in pretty words and flowery bs. But either way theyre voting against a persons autonomy.

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Anonymous recursive 16w

if u read anything ive said i've explained my stance on abortion. i will love my friends and support their decisions because it is THEIR BODY i might not fully agree but im a good enough friend to put aside my thoughts and beliefs and be there for them.

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Anonymous #35 16w

In Georgia right now there is a woman who is brain-dead. They can’t take her off of “life” support because she was 9 weeks pregnant when she passed. They are keeping her corpse “alive” because legally they cannot permit this baby, who will probably not survive, to pass peacefully with the mother. She will never wake up. Her family cannot bury her, and they will probably take on crushing medical debt. This is what abortion restrictions do.

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Anonymous #41 16w

i heard about that and its so sad to hear. that why i think if it is medically necessary to have abortions for cases like these.

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Anonymous #35 16w

It is okay to feel conflicted about abortion for yourself. But if you want fewer dead mothers, you have to give pregnant women and doctors freedom to make informed decisions for themselves. If the cost of that freedom is more women getting pre-viability abortions I wouldn’t choose, I am okay with that. Until we are willing to put our money where our mouths are and provide what those children need to be safe and healthy, we need to not insist that someone else do it instead.

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Anonymous #41 16w

im glad i have been able to have a respectful conversation abt this with u, i think this is the first conversation that i have had with someone on yik yak or at kent that hasnt fully shut me out and actually listened to my thoughts on things!

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Anonymous #35 16w

It’s a weird loophole because the law does in theory provide those exceptions. But since the mother is already dead, there is no legal case that terminating the pregnancy would save her life. And yeah, it’s sad that she can’t have dignity in passing. But the real worst part is that her baby is most likely going to be born with severe disabilities and will probably suffer. So this law is not protecting this child at all.

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Anonymous recursive 16w

To be completely fair, it is possible to wrestle with personal convictions about something without wanting to infringe on other people’s right to choose differently than you would. For a long time I felt really icky about abortion but I still promised my best friend that if she needed one I would go with her to the clinic. I’ve changed my mind pretty radically over the years (strongly pro-choice now) but I still don’t think I was being an asshole when as a teenager I felt conflicted.

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Anonymous #41 16w

It seems bizarre to argue right to choose considering the baby has no personal choice in the matter.

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Anonymous #41 16w

couldn't agree more

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Anonymous #35 16w

I’m glad you can tell I don’t want to just trash you. It seems like you have some stuff you’re thinking hard about. I know how hard it is to sort out your political beliefs. When I was still deciding where I stand on particular issues, I lost friends because they basically wanted me to grow faster, and it really sucked because I was doing the best I could at the time. You have to be true to your convictions, but the more care and research you can put in the better. Good luck!!!

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Anonymous #41 16w

thank you so much!!! this conversation is proof people can have different opinions and still have a level of respect for each other and learn from each other, i hope more people see this and realize its ok to have different views and opinions but maintaining a level of respect

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Anonymous #33 16w

In my state, elective abortion is only legal until 6 weeks. A 6-week fetus does not even really have a cerebrum, so it literally does not matter whether the fetus is consulted. The fetus has exactly zero ability to make personal choices at that stage. It is very busy developing the rudiments of a nervous system.

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Anonymous #24 16w

research can be important but not effective - it’s an over correction for sure but are you comfortable that less than half of grant funds go to research

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Anonymous gyattttt 16w

Are you saying that less than half of a typical federal research grant goes to the actual research project the grant is for? Because at my public R1 university that’s actually because of something called indirect costs. Basically, when you submit a proposed budget for a grant app, you have to factor in what you owe to the university in exchange for the use of their resources to do the research. Salaries, labor, common facilities, stipends for assistants, publication support, etc.

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Anonymous #33 16w

Rode v wade was a court case and to boil it down gave people who can conceive have the constitutional protected right to have an abortion prior to fetal viability if u were a victim of SA or if u have any complications that affect the person carrying you had that right to about it, it included a lot of other things but that’s what it’s know for. In the previous term it was introduced and it was hammered way into the current term and it’s has affected many women. The bill also affect affirmative-

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Anonymous #20 16w

Care that impacted women’s access to birth control, in some cases people’s period tracking apps were and/or are being monitored, and trans women couldn’t get procedures that would help them transition into who they truly are. (If u didn’t know trans women is just a women 🤭) anyway! It’s done a lot in past 4+ years this would mean if u live in a state where rode v wade was attacked any woman in your life would have to carry a baby to term regardless if it non-alive them/they become a SA victim

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Anonymous blellow_doughnut 16w

Fair lol. But i like women.

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Anonymous recursive 16w

So I’m talking about you then? Lol

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Anonymous recursive 16w

Nvm just looked at your post lol

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Anonymous blellow_doughnut 16w

Nah. I was saying i wouldnt get to enjoy the silver linings you found. 😂

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Anonymous blellow_doughnut 16w

In my experience, conservative guys don’t know what the clitoris is 😂 They tend to THINK they’re really good in bed, though, because in their mind, violently choking you without establishing boundaries or even asking if that’s OK is equivalent to a cum button. t. grew up in Jesusland

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Anonymous #53 16w

🤦‍♀️ judging people based on what they believe is probably THE MOST valid reason to judge someone. Genuinely how else do you judge someone? If someone believes you’re vermin, or that people like me shouldn’t get married, you’re just supposed to say, “Oh well, live and let live”? No! Your beliefs are a choice—you can choose to stop being a shitty person at any time, and I will absolutely judge you in the meantime.

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Anonymous #53 16w

So what you’re really saying is, “Don’t judge me for the messed-up stuff I think.” And to that, the answer is: absolutely not. You’re not entitled to protection from the consequences of your worldview. If your beliefs cause harm, then being judged is the bare minimum response.

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Anonymous #53 16w

And with comments like that, id know somebody like you is a yucky person i wouldnt want to befriend or date. Devaluing somebodys feelings/experiences based on like.. appearance. Lame.🤮🤢 Ik what you base womens values off of. Telling on yourself.

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Anonymous #18 16w

And liberal values don’t cause harm? Tell that to the dead babies

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Anonymous #18 16w

Find god🙏

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Anonymous #53 16w

🙄 if your only retort is “uh your ideology is bad, too!” then that’s a bit concerning. I personally don’t think abortion is murder—as does the United Nations and virtually every serious scientist. You, on the other hand, KNOW what you believe to be harmful and dangerous, but you believe it anyway. I have no cognitive dissonance in my beliefs; it sounds like you do.

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Anonymous #18 16w

It’s a philosophical question, wtf do scientists have anything to do with it? It’s like saying “we all have a fundamental right to property or healthcare” in which it’s a societal question and scientists’ opinions hold no weight. Great, the UN gave it’s philosophical position, doesn’t mean it’s right.

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Anonymous #9 16w

“fewer women die of pregnancy-related complications if you don’t make it legally risky and paperwork-intensive for doctors to perform the procedures that would save their lives” is not a philosophical stance. it is a verifiable fact driven by statistical evidence. who collects statistical evidence to determine what medical approaches have the best outcomes? scientists. next question

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Anonymous #24 16w

Lemme guess he thinks either breast cancer is fake or believes men can’t have it too

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Anonymous #24 16w

wow i'm glad you left him. my mommy beat brest cancer. thank you🙏🏻

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Anonymous #16 16w

“Forcing my beliefs” is me just trying to exist like everybody else. Getting groceries. Going out to eat. Being a normal person. But if youre queer and do the same shit everybody else does its “shoving my beliefs down peoples throats” I do think if youre bullying people (esp kids) for being queer, that sucks. And conservatives do care. Because they vote to take away rights from folks like me. Because trump removed gender from title ix, i have to worry about being FIRED just for existing.

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Anonymous recursive 16w

Im not “forcing my beliefs on others” beyond saying “respect me as a human and treat me like anybody else. Show basic kindness to trans folk. Realize just using a different pronoun or calling somebodys preferred name can make them go from terrified to feeling okay or safe. Queer people are often TERRIFIED. And no, nobodys gonna turn your kids gay/trans. I just want your gay/trans kid to feel safe. To not be bullied. To be treated like everybody else. To make kids realize its okay to be quee

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