Anonymous #1 10w

Point of fact: If I kill a pregnant woman it is a double murder, so clearly killing of the unborn is murder. But some murders are legalized by the state and thats OK: soldiers, police officers, stand-your-ground laws, euthanasia, death penalty is all cases of state permissible murder

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Anonymous #1 10w

Regardless of whether people should be able to abort or not, those rights of killing ultimately fall to the states perogitive

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Anonymous #1 10w

Okay so these arguments are actually really interesting. Personally I don’t agree with you. I don’t feel as though the government should be able to dictate what I can and can’t do with my body. Your examples of legalized murder is very odd to me. I can see the point you’re attempting to make but I think you’re not quite there. All in all, it all boils down to the government having too much power over my autonomy.

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Anonymous OP 10w

If you decide your body shouldn’t be clothed and expose yourself to minors is that the government infringing on your bodily autonomy? Or if you decide your mouth shouldn’t be masked when you are sick? If you were 9 months pregnant and died, your fetus would still be able to live without you. So at what point does it become a life? Irregardless of the fact its murder, and sometimes state-sanctioned murder

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Anonymous #1 10w

These are completely unrelated analogies. One is for the safety of others, one is if I were to die. Very very few percentages of abortions are full term abortions, and are mostly done because of something seriously wrong that would cause severe harm to mom or baby. Life, in my opinion, begins when a child has exited the womb. I can see you’re hung up on the scenario where you kill a pregnant woman and get charged for two murders, and yes I believe that should be correct.

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Anonymous OP 10w

Regardless of any of this, I don’t think the government should be able to say I am unable to have an abortion. Morally do I agree with them? No I don’t. I personally wouldn’t get one unless it were for a medical reason. Do I think the government should have the power to stop somebody from getting one? No I don’t.

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Anonymous OP 10w

Why shouldn’t the government be able to regulate murder? You can have the opinion that abortion should be legal, just as someone can have the opinion the death penalty can be legal. But to say the government /shouldn’t be able to say/ why can they rule on one form of murder (as already stated killing a fetus is murder in the example of the pregnant woman double murder) and not the other?

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Anonymous #1 10w

Because it should be the woman’s choice if she wants to carry a pregnancy or not? I don’t know why that’s so hard for you to understand here.

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Anonymous OP 10w

Just as when abortions are illegal parenthood is “forced” (for lack of a better word) parenthood is forced on people after birth in some states. While some states allow giving up for adoptions up to 18, if the baby is kept parenthood can be forced on men and women through the courts through financial obligation. The state remains the legal means to force parenthood just as they do to sanction murder.

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Anonymous #1 10w

To reject being a parent post pregnancy (ignore your child) is neglection and child abuse. To leave your child to your partner or ex partner usually entails child support. Both means of state enforced parenthood

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Anonymous #1 10w

You’ve gotta be ragebaiting

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Anonymous OP 10w

Ok well you are soapboxing

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Anonymous #1 10w

See man you’re too critically online, what even is soap boxing???

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Anonymous OP 10w

Idk whats ragebaiting

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