
People can also lie to gain attention and a fan base and not truly believe what their ‘advocacy’ is. Taylor swift has never really supported black artists, and has been known to support the gay community mostly only after getting support from that demographic. We cannot assume what she’s done to promote her image is truly who she is
Which is originally a song about lynching. Music from people like Bruce Springsteen or rage against the machine or Neil young, are inherently political. Seeing someone who you idolize be political isn’t inherently bad but trusting someone like swift who actively only cares about herself is. People like Dolly Parton (who could be a billionaire but isn’t becuz she invests deeply into her community) use their wealth to show their character sometimes and I think it’s important to hold them to that
Yeah I agree you cant assume her intentions and she’s definitely not known for any racial or cultural advocacy or inclusion. Even though I wouldn’t say she’s obligated to do that if that’s not her area that can be a valid criticism. But those criticisms aren’t the same as saying therefore that makes her MAGA.
And I haven’t seen anything confirming Kelce to be a Trump supporter. I could definitely see him being a social opportunist but he’s mostly not involved in politics it seems. He kneeled during BLM, promoted the Covid vaccine, endorsed bud light after they had a trans sponsor. Not saying he’s a progressive but those aren’t typically associated with MAGA.
No but she is a billionaire who can chose how her image comes across, knowing she is dating someone maga, and released an album seemingly dissing black artists with things like ‘she’s not savage’ and talking about trad wife things like ‘filling a block with his kids’ and stuff like that. She follows a lot of trends and switching to MAGA doesn’t seem like a stretch at this point, if it would make her money. She’s not currently acting like she has in the past, when it would be most important.
So then you’re kind of doing what I mentioned in my post. Her wealth and aesthetic where she leans into being a very feminine, innocent, blonde hair, blue eyed white woman wanting to be swept off her feet and have kids with a tall, strong man FEELS MAGA because it’s a thing MAGA uses therefore people don’t trust her and are assuming she must be MAGA (even tho she was doing that before MAGA and supported Kamala)
And Taylor Swift isn’t known for being revolutionary—politically, socially, or artistically. She found a schtick way back in 2008 and then in 2014 and stuck with it. So even if she wasn’t MAGA I could definitely see her lagging behind the times when it comes to updating her image to distance herself. She’s pretty risk averse in that way which is why she shouldn’t be made to be some political voice to begin with.
She has chosen to be political. No one made her. She’s not inherently maga but she has branded herself to what was popular and comfortable. Now when it’s more ‘safe’ she’s dissing artists like Charlie xcx and other (mostly black) artist who make music to shake ass to. It’s very pick me, which I feel like she always has been. She can brand herself however she would like but at the end of the day she’s a brand. Her whole identity is a brand. And she has enough money to know how she comes off
People would like to see her react the way she has for years. She has been outspoken in the past and now she’s being very quiet and not addressing any of the very real issues she’s created for her brand. She could address this album but has chosen not to and has come out to say ‘talking bad about the album is still talking about my album’. Simply because it’s clearly in the zeitgeist, and she is again a brand. It is parasocial but she promotes that. Calling herself everyones English teacher
Yep don’t disagree with any of that. I’m not personally a T Swift fan. However she has ALWAYS been this way, especially for issues that don’t relate to gender. I’m just saying that those things don’t make her MAGA in and of themselves even if I think the criticisms are valid and some of the issues are self-imposed. So I think we’re on the same page, just using different phrases.
I’m also not a t swift fan and I think we’re similar minded but I really do think she’s aware of how she’s coming off right now and isn’t speaking against it intentionally. She’s known for dropping hints and being very aware of her brand so not speaking out about how she is coming off is very telling in my opinion. You can say that is just my opinion but it does start to seem maga to me personally.
I may not be in that circle enough to see if what she’s doing is unusual. Guess it also depends on how big the rumors are. I wouldn’t expect her to react to a few tweets from strangers but if she’s dodging interview questions THAT would be a big sign. Right now calling her MAGA feels like a leap. It’s not enough for me to speculate, just a reminder of why I don’t rely on pop stars to be any main source of political leadership and advocacy. All we can do is wait and see what happens I guess.
I worked at Disney so I hear a lot of her. She’s not dodging direct questions but no one has asked her if she’s maga directly. She has been asked about the hate and has clearly heard about the backlash she is getting. Her respond was literally what i said earlier, fully deflected and doubled down saying hate is still buzz for her new album. I don’t think we should trust her to be political but music is inherently political. Hailey Williams referenced the song strange fruit in her music lately
Art and personal expression is definitely political by nature even if the person doing either isn’t expressly politically active. The things her music implies about her are one of the reasons I was never into her lol. It can come off as pretty generic and she’s been singing about a lot of the same things in the same way since at least 2014.
I don’t think she’s like any of the people I named but she’s a huge name today. I listen to the news and she’s on the bbc and brought up on npr. She’s drowning me lately because I hate her but she presents herself as being that deep and I think that’s why she’s come out to be political because she wants to be seen as a serious artist. I don’t personally think she is