i def agree there is a level of it being self induced. however, i think as a culture as we moved through feminism, massive parts of masculinity became "toxic" - and there are parts that definitely are toxic. but when you take away spaces where men can participate in their hobbies and interests - an overall loss of third spaces - plus the pandemic amping up general loneliness, it leads to a pretty easy pipeline to fall into. i'm nonbinary so maybe this isn't other peoples lived experience tho.
Subjective opinion but definitely not definitive. At least being in a metropolitan city, heightened stress leads to people being more “gatekeepy” of their friends. Takes a lot of effort just to have someone give you their time. If you’re not constantly busy, you’re perceived as “behind”. Women are more likable than men so it’s easier for them to get into friend circles compared to men. That’s a fact
Yes. It’s patriarchy and the fact that a lot of things like emotional support men feel like they can only get from a romantic partner. So single men feel “lonelier” then single women are average a lot of men are lonelier (ie don’t have any friends) then before so social media probably isn’t helping either
I def agree that the pandemic made loneliness an issue for everyone fs. But I jus got two follow up questions: 1. which massive parts of masculinity became “toxic” ? 2. how where spaces where men can participate in their hobbies and interests taken away? are you also talking ab covid here or are you talking ab something else?
and why is that? why would women be more gatekeepy of their friends? I agree as a guy it’s definitely difficult to build trust w folk, but taking the time to do so has been worth it every time 🤷🏽♂️ and who applies these pressures on men? bc from the way i see it, it’s generally other men. Ofc there are women who feed into the narrative, but generally this shit originates from men and social media definitely doesn’t help when young men with malleable minds start watching dudes like andrew tate
Oh yeah Andrew Tate is an unhinged “alpha” male. I agree he’s not a good role model at all. Yes, men play into the narrative with toxic masculinity. On your for statement, I didn’t say women are gatekeepers it’s that everyone (at least in big cities) is with their friends, understandably though. Women do have more charm and overall better social finesse than most men who he’s makes them more valuable in social circles than men
i think that it became widely recognized to not approach women when they're in public minding their business. however i think this became distorted and a lot of men have a difficult time just talking to a classmate, exacerbating loneliness. i also think that it's hard for a lot of men to make friends, and theyre told that the only relationship they really need is a romantic one. and the second q yeah covid and the general loss of third spaces in american/western society