Anonymous #3 15h

It’s almost as if SEXUALITY is about SEX and GENITALIA. if you are attracted to vagina and penis you are BISEXUAL. words have meanings and it’s okay to be bisexual

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Anonymous #1 14h

having a convos is good and not dating men is very valid

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Anonymous OP 14h

When you date someone are you only thinking about what genitals they have? I don’t think that way. Is a straight man supposed to be attracted to a buff trans guy just because he has a vagina?

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Anonymous #3 14h

It’s not abt what they have, it’s what you don’t want them to have. Sexuality at its core is about sex. It shouldn’t be as big of a deal as everyone makes it. It’s a classification

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Anonymous OP 14h

My main issue is that you are reducing attraction just to genitalia when it is wayyyy more complex than that. AND you’re invalidating the existence of trans people by effectively implying they aren’t really their gender because of their genitals.

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Anonymous #3 13h

Yeah attraction is complicated. But having sex and having certain genitalia you can and can’t be attracted is NOT complicated. Nobody chooses to be a homosexual or straight. Homosexual men don’t like vagina.. Identity and sexuality shouldn’t be so closely knit. You can be a straight, bisexual or homosexual trans person just like any cis person can be. It’s not a big deal.

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Anonymous OP 13h

I know a bunch of gay guys who fuck trans dudes lol

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Anonymous #3 13h

My central point is I know a bunch of trans lesbians and invalidating the existence of both cis and trans lesbians who like trans women is shitty. The same applies for gay guys.

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Anonymous #3 13h

The reality is that people are attracted to many different aspects. Genital preference often falls within the physical gender binary but it doesn’t always. Like there’s a lot more that a straight guy finds attractive about a woman than just the vagina.

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Anonymous #3 13h

then they aren’t gay, they are bisexual. that’s the whole point

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Anonymous OP 13h

*sigh*

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Anonymous #3 13h

They can identify as trans lesbians, but any lesbian who has sex with them is.. bisexual. unless you only date t women with bottom surgery. genuinely, genitalia drives sexuality. it shouldn’t be about validation or affirmation. We need to unweave sexuality and gender identity and labels in general

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Anonymous OP 13h

My ex broke up with me because she realized she was a lesbian and then got with a trans woman. Saying this invalidates the identity of trans women as women. When I am attracted to someone it is based on a lot more than what’s in their pants. I think we should place less emphasis on labels. Which is why policing lesbianism based on genitalia is bad.

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Anonymous #3 13h

Homosexuality is homosexuality . Your ex is bisexual. Again, this isn’t about identity. Your sexuality is no different than your the eye color imo.

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Anonymous #3 13h

Like if someone is a woman who likes other women let her call herself a lesbian. Don’t be like “no you can’t say that” if it includes trans women. Because she might not like men so bisexual may not be a label that she feels accurately describes her.

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Anonymous OP 13h

In the common parlance, labels like lesbian and gay are generally used to refer to gender identity, because for many people their attraction to a gender is more complicated than just what’s in their pants.

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Anonymous OP 13h

Like were you not just saying we need to focus less on labels? So why are you policing what labels people can use

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Anonymous #3 13h

But biologically, sexuality is based on sex. I honestly think most humans are bisexual.

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Anonymous OP 13h

There’s a lot more elements to sexual attraction than just genitalia. There’s the entire rest of the anatomy. Like it’s not really accurate to treat a trans woman who appears female aside from her genitalia as if that’s just run of the mill male anatomy.

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Anonymous #3 13h

I mean technically she can be a lesbian, it’s just if she has a penis, then anyone who has sex with her is a bisexual.

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Anonymous #3 13h

I think it’s much much better to treat genital preference as something separate from gender attractiveness. They often correlate but not always. That way you can acknowledge that preferences exist without invalidating identities which are highly intertwined with social attraction and other biological elements.

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Anonymous OP 13h

It’s really not complicated. You do not dictate someone else’s sexuality. Quit fucking trying to.

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Anonymous #3 13h

Bc I don’t think sexuality should be a label 😭😭😭😭

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Anonymous #4 13h

Sexuality shouldn’t make you this upset lol. This is the problem with it intertwining into gender identity. Loaded language like “policing” is crazy.

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Anonymous OP 12h

Sexuality doesn’t make me upset. Ignorance surrounding it and trying to dictate other people’s identities because YOU don’t understand something is what pisses me off.

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