
People keep trying to crucify Jesus even to this day i see. Donāt blame Jesusā divine love for us for misguided so called religious people that live in Sin. Understand that Following Jesus is a relationship not confined to a single building, denomination but to the everyday choice to walk in His Love, His Humility and mission. Before you point fingers and try to crucify others because of their shortcomings look inward first and if u are pure and of no sin then cast that stone.
If your beliefs involve feeling like youāre constantly being watched and judged and that you need to do specific things (follow a set of random rules, pray, etc) in order to avoid eternal damnation, those are textbook OCD symptoms at the very least. Letās accept that some people need some mental help instead of feeding their delusions
Is it bad that people believe that something good happens at the end of life on this evil earth? That there is life after death? While thatās not the core reason for my Christian beliefs, to some people itās just about having a reason to go on, a reason to live and to love. Is that such a bad thing?
Yeah Christians are oppressors and always have been, all in the name of soothing your symptoms of mental illness and feeling superior to other people. At least I actually seek help for my OCD instead of falling back on religion to dig myself into a deeper and more restrictive hole in life
Why donāt you have any reason to live and love right now? How do you expect to enjoy your existence in heaven if you donāt love anyone now and donāt do anything to make life worth living, nothing to look back on or be passionate about? Why not spend the time you KNOW you have trying to make the world a better place?
There are plenty of Christian organizations that go out and help under developed cities and countries across the globe, Iāve personally worked one already, and we spread the gospel to the people we help as well. As Christianās, we believe everything on this Earth is temporary, and our main goal is to make Heaven crowded, and thatās what I wanna see when I get there, and I wanna see you there too!
I do that! I love everyone! I love my friends and Family, I love my pets, my schools, my professors, my life. But I only learned to love myself that way because of Jesus Christ. He is my hope, he is my savior, he saved my life in more ways than one, so while I have plenty of reasons to love people and this Earth, Jesus Christ helped me find it
Iām assuming you found Jesus through his lessons in the bible? If thatās the case, would you say it would be valid for people who read books made by other authors, including modern ones, to dedicate themselves to the authors in the same way? I would argue that most people donāt need someone else to tell them how to genuinely love people and things, it should just come naturally if they truly love them
Get your priorities straight. Your goal is to make some hypothetical place full in the future by spreading a theology now? Exactly why I left the church cuz what makes your theology correct? No evidence that place exists. Donāt get me wrong, I believe in an afterlife but not one that I have to proselytize and convince people that it exists because I believe every single person goes there just by being alive in a given moment. Thats unconditional love right there. Not this Christian judgment bs
Sure, you could argue that, but there is a reason that the Bible is the most popular book in the world. While there are plenty of books that cover all different types of morality, the Bible SET those moral standards that we see today. Thereās a reason so many civilizations set their rules and standards using the ones given in the Christian Bible, because it works (when used correctly).
The reason its the most printed book in the world is because for nearly 1000 years its been the dominant religion in the west and the printing press was made specifically so they could make more than 1 bible a lifetime. As for the moral standards, almost all of the ones that the bible sets are common to every society due to the need for a social contract. Any developments away from that were often met with resistance from the church and are often advocated against today, such as womens rights.
I only go off of my own experience not what everyone says religion should be or the media, I came to God myself w/ a open heart and asked him to work in my life. I picked up the Bible for myself and read and researched to understand its meaning. Everyoneās experience is different and unfortunately some encounter religious groups that arenāt understanding or true people of God. But God doesnāt forsake people, man does.
While Rome did indeed start crumbling around the time it switched to Christianity, it was not particularly the thing that killed it. It was part of a long series of events that fractured the empireās central identity, and would have happened with near any religion usurping a previous one. That, combined with cultural differences due to the span of the empire led to less conscription and more mercenaries in war, which is the downfall of every empire. Additionally, the Pax Romana that held +
Rome together required constant expansion wars with costly supply lines. Eventually it would have led to some sort of revolution due to no more land with which to pay retiring legates, or a border so vast that it couldnt possibly be guarded from invasion without modern technology.
it literally does not affect you at all. donāt believe, do believe, itās ur first amendment right to choose but if u donāt choose this path then donāt speak about it. u donāt know anything about it to even have a leg to stand on other than second hand information from people like you. iāll pray for you
personally i think this fits outside of those two labels since you can have a specific delusion without enough of the other symptoms to be diagnosed, for example the mood related symptoms (idk enough about ocd to say the same though) but thereās definitely more overlap than many people are comfortable admitting to themselves. denial is very, very powerful
It absolutely is inherently harmful. Slavery, rape, sexism, child abuse, murder, it is RAMPANT in your āholyā book. Iāll suck it your cult being forced into our bodies and the government. Wanna be Christian? Keep it to yourself and FAR the fuck away from the rest of society.
It does affect us. It denies healthcare to me and my communities, it further stigmatises us, and has empowered the current paedophile in chief to put another fucking large target on our backs because of your bloody death cult. Youāre welcome to be christian, you are NOT fucking welcome to force it on us.
Can you provide to me any proof that the Bible backs these things? Slavery is condemned (1 Timothy 1:9-10), We are told to control ourselves and not rape (1 Thessalonians 4:3-4), the Bible actually condemns people that abuse their family (1 Timothy 5:8), and murder is literally against the 10 commandments. Please find me something that proves me wrong because I donāt think you can.
Literally in EVERY piece of history ever. In every culture. All of it. Once again blaming a religion on everything else that has been committed by the entire world over centuries. Itās the first testament compared to the second, and that shows you know nothing of what he preaches knowing youāre going off of a lesson testement, not a rule book. Nobody uses the first testement as a way of life and itās very evident because the world would be in a lot worse of condition.
Jesus isnāt the issue, it seems like he was actually a pretty great guy. The issue is a lot of Christians. My personal biggest gripe is that so many of yāall feel the need to try and spread it online and discuss it in spaces where no one expressed any interest. I donāt generally see members of other religions do that, at least not to the degree that many Christians do. More than that though, Christianity is the main religion atm being wielded as a weapon towards many marginalized people in-
while i agree with your point, this is just the No True Scotsman fallacy; just because they are bad people doesn't make them "not" christians, they are just bad people who are christians. Saying otherwise conveniently ignores the possibility that you can be a bad person and still be a christian, which only shifts the goalposts and prevents people from addressing any flaws in a system
What youāre seeing is this poor soul projecting human behavior onto a perfect God. Who the hell said humans followed Christian doctrine to a tea? Why would there be rampant cases of sexual abuse in the church? Yes it exists but it was NOT mandated in dogma. That is pure evidence of evil individuals using it to their advantage
I also find it quite ironic that there have been comments about these people being āinherently badā LMAO. THATS THE POINT. That Bible yall hate so much literally talked about all of this. Sin nature. Free will. Abuse. War. Slavery. Are we to repeat these mistakes and declare war on one another? OR should we do what the damn good book says and LOVE ONE ANOTHER
They have EVERY RIGHT to believe in a religion, and you have every right not to. What is it with the people in this comment section?? They donāt need to āgrow upā and YOUR āmythologyā is their truth. Which is FINE. The glorious thing about being people? We donāt all have to be the same or think the same things
iām interested in this take if people who are christian are meant to love, care, be kind to others, help the less fortunate, etc. and they go around hating, killing, discriminating, etc. how could they possibly be proper christians? it goes against the entire foundation that the religion was built on
Classic deflection. His existence is equally proportionate to him not existing according to science. But, Iāll humor you. Letās joust with our wrinkly brains. Go ahead and give me an answer to the law of conservation of mass? If matter cannot be created or destroyed only transferred betweennn the two that implies that the matter and energy in the universe has been, is, and always will be at a constant sum. So, where did any of it come from?
no i don't lmaoooo, holy assumption. i'm actually diagnosed with ocd and a lot of my checking rituals and similar symptoms align w religious behaviors. and my hyper catholic grandma we suspect was that way because she had ocd and ptsd, and back then mental health care wasn't as accessible
well if ur comparing it sure maybe thats ur POV but its objectively not the same. OCD is a lifelong mental illness, ppl leave religion all the time and if according to your logic religious ppl suffer from OCD then theyāre ācuredā when they leave, and that just isnāt how OCD works nor schizophrenia
you and every other christian i've seen in this comment section have been nothing but disrespectful and yet you wonder why yall get so much hate. the hate is deserved. you don't need to be right to believe in whatever, but by insisting you're right and everyone else is wrong and pushing your beliefs upon them you're disrespecting everyone else
People who leave behind religion commonly suffer from religious trauma and OCD symptoms related to it, even if they donāt consciously believe anymore. People with OCD can improve their condition over time if they receive help, as Iām currently in the process of doing for my own OCD
""Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished." Matthew 5:17-18
But wait for it⦠the Catholic Church didnāt exist either under him. Did you know, his teachings are interpretations because he himself never wrote anything? Let alone a council that organized what books should be included and excluded to fit āthe narrativeā? Thereās a reason why thereās 40+ Christain denominations.
But thatās still an interpretation though. Jesus never explicitly said āPeter will become the first Popeā in the text itself ā that conclusion comes from later theological interpretation. Other denominations read that same verse completely differently while also believing theyāre guided by God, which is why Christianity ended up with so many branches and disagreements in the first place. š¤