Anonymous #1 1d

unfortunately 80% of most men simply do not care. good for you for being a decent human

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Anonymous OP 1d

i always strive to be the best person possible :)

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Anonymous #3 1d

It feels cringe to say “thanks for being one of the good ones” but the good ones are so few and far between I always feel the need to say thank you so they don’t feel unappreciated and start abusing women out of retaliation 😭 so yeah thanks for being cool 😎

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Anonymous #4 1d

Honestly just sharing my own experiences, but hope you have a great day ❤️

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Anonymous #5 1d

i dont believe that women are perfect or that men are evil. i never said that anywhere but the way women are socialized, they tend to consider others emotions & look out for each other in ways that men usually just do not. this is well documented

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Anonymous OP 1d

Emotions aren’t logical. They are one sided and are almost always unfair. When you act in your emotions, you fail to humanize the other party. Like in this situation. That happens all the time with women. They don’t care if they’re rational makes sense they only care if people around them agree. It’s why you’ve been able to post something horrible and still get likes. Because you are supported, you’ll allow your anger to take over and stop seeing men as humans. “I don’t believe most men are good

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Anonymous #5 1d

People” THATS the problem

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Anonymous #5 1d

Case in point ^ downvoting simply because that’s what everyone else is doing

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Anonymous #5 1d

im not upset. i view men as humans. but from what i've seen in my own life, most men ARE indifferent to sexism and the that issues women & other groups face. do you have proof that most men are overwhelmingly feminists? because i don't😭 if you are the exception to that, continue being great and be an example to the men in your life❤️ if you know this post wasnt targeted towards you , then you can rest easy

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Anonymous OP 1d

Of course we’re indifferent to sexism. Have you looked around recently at how feminists treat men AND women? I’m a feminist until I actually MEET one. Men aren’t women, we don’t experience what women experience, and like it or not, we aren’t going to go raising picket fences for a group that is actively insulting and objectifying us. Sure, not all feminists do that, but a LOT of them do. And for the record, IM upset. What you said is horrible, and you need to rethink how to treat people

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Anonymous #5 1d

And not for nothing this new yikyak update is atrocious we’re probably going to have to start a new thread if you want to respond

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Anonymous #5 1d

you just proved the point of my post. thank you for showing everyone that you as well are indifferent to sexism. empathy is important, and you should care about people having equal rights even if it doesnt affect you personally

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Anonymous OP 1d

What right do you not have?

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Anonymous #5 1d

What do you have to be upset about? What was the horrible thing OP said? Why do they need to rethink how they treat people? You’re making a lot of claims that don’t really make any sense.

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Anonymous #4 1d

“Most men aren’t good people”

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Anonymous #4 1d

There’s a much deeper meaning in that phrase. And I’d be standing up to anyone if they said the same thing about ANY group of people. You should to

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Anonymous #5 1d

They followed that with why they believe that. So why does that upset you?

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Anonymous #4 1d

Why does “following that with why they believe that” make it any less horrible?

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Anonymous #5 1d

Because if a claim can be supported by logic your feelings about said claim don’t really matter.

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Anonymous #5 1d

caring about the suffering of others , and being a feminist makes you a good person. most men are not those things. therefore that doesnt make them good people like i said in the post, men are not inherently evil. they just indifferent- which is what allows evil to continue. not sure how any of that hurt your feelings

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Anonymous #4 1d

It wasn’t supported by logic, and saying something can be bad even if it’s true. Like if I went into a university teaching a women’s studies program and said that women fiscally drag the U.S. economy down according to economics data, would that be a productive thing to say? Does the fact that it’s true change its impact on those young women who are trying to learn?

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Anonymous OP 1d

Most feminists don’t care about the suffering of others. Most feminists only care about themselves, and want something to scream at. Case in point, you using feminism as an excuse to insult half the world

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Anonymous OP 1d

You literally said you want “equal rights” and couldn’t tell which right you were missing. You aren’t fighting for equality, you’re calling yourself a feminist so you can hurt others

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Anonymous #5 1d

Facts should not be censored to the discretion of people’s emotions. Sometimes the truth hurts, but we learn and grow because of that. It seems like what OP said really hurt your feelings, and I think you need to explore why it resonated with you so deeply, instead of deflecting and trying to tear them down. They civilly expressed an opinion, and you have not shown the same level of civility in expressing yours.

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Anonymous #5 1d

if its hurtful to you that i pointed out that most men are indifferent & usually don't care about issues that don't affect them, then sure. whatever helps you sleep at night

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Anonymous #4 1d

I’m not sure now you’ve missed this, but nothing about this post is civil. I’m hurt because I was abused by my mother, who raised me on her own, and would constantly talk down to me because I’m a “man”. That’s a reality that nobody talks about. You don’t understand this because you aren’t a man, but this shit hurts. Going into a room full of minorities and explaining to them that minorities commit most of Americas crimes hurts. Nobody learns from that. Telling women that they statistically under

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Anonymous #5 1d

Perform in leadership roles hurts. Telling men that they are bad people and don’t care about others because they are men hurts. Nobody learns from that

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Anonymous #5 1d

just because i have most of the same rights as you doesn't mean all women across the globe do. reproductive rights aside. just because men & women are equal on paper (in some countries) doesn't mean they're also treated equally by society, in healthcare, in relationships, in religion, the workforce, etc etc.

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Anonymous OP 1d

Well if we’re talking about global women’s rights then of course I support that. Men DO support that. But I can’t exactly do anything about it from over here. It doesn’t make me “not a good person”

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Anonymous #5 1d

im sorry you were treated that way by your mother. that shouldn't have happened. i hope you get therapy and heal but this post is still valid. im not blindly attacking men simply because they are men. i am calling out REALITY- way too many men enable one another, support rapists, and don't believe in feminism. you CANNOT do those things and call yourself a good person. self reflection is important.

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Anonymous OP 1d

You didn’t say too many men, you said most men. Most men do not support rapists, most women enable each other way more than men do, and calling yourself a feminist isn’t supporting global feminism. Your post is completely invalid, and you are marginalizing a huge group of people. What you said is awful, and you need to recognize that

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Anonymous #5 1d

The fact people don’t learn from those things is simply a reflection of humanity nature. People will be what they are programmed to be. Those people being unable to take accountability is not a reason to stop teaching the truth. Your mother being abusive has nothing to do with this and should not be a reason you become aggressive towards someone who simply made a statement. Just because it hurt your feelings due to your childhood trauma doesn’t mean it wasn’t civil.

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Anonymous #4 1d

I’m not being aggressive, any more than they are. I haven’t threatened them (and I never would) and I haven’t said anything that should make them feel unsafe. I’m stating MY thoughts the same as them. What they said is awful, and they need to recognize that

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Anonymous #5 1d

I was abandoned by my father and abused by my mother as well, so I do sympathize with that. You deserved better. But if we make everything in our lives about our childhood then we will never get past it. You are an adult now, and it doesn’t matter what she said to you anymore. You can choose who you are.

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Anonymous #5 1d

What they said wasn’t really awful. They’re entitled to their opinion. They didn’t say “men are bad”. Those are words you put in their mouth because your brain is programmed to be a victim. Read the original post. Nothing hateful was said. You are projecting very hard.

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Anonymous #4 1d

YOU ASKED WHY I WAS HURT. That’s not why I’m against op, it’s why I’m passionate.

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Anonymous #4 1d

What’s they said WAS awful. They said men aren’t good people. Twist that however you want. It’s available for everyone to see right in the original post. And it’s awful

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Anonymous #5 1d

I asked why the post hurt your feelings. Your mother has nothing to do with the post, so I’m not sure why you brought it up.

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Anonymous #5 1d

They didn’t say that though. Read the post again.

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Anonymous #4 1d

I brought it up because you asked

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Anonymous #4 1d

They did, read the post

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Anonymous #5 1d

I didn’t ask if your mom abused you I asked why you were hurt by the post. The post didn’t mention your mother

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Anonymous OP 1d

What’s hurtful is that you lied about men and said they’re indifferent

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Anonymous #4 1d

I’m hurt because my mom abused me it’s the answer to the question you asked

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Anonymous #5 1d

Your mom didnt make the post and she wasn’t mentioned in the post. It is completely irrelevant.

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Anonymous #4 1d

Then you shouldn’t have asked

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Anonymous #5 1d

Where does it say “men aren’t good”

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Anonymous #4 1d

Line 1, paragraph 1

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Anonymous #4 1d

You can’t twist words and expect that to actually work in an argument lol

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Anonymous #4 1d

the average guy isn't a good person because the average man is not a feminist and is usually indifferent to issues that dont affect him. i never said all men were bad or evil. if you know you're a good person then this yikyak post shouldn't be striking a nerve😭 i don't know how else to say it bro, what else is there for me to talk about

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Anonymous #5 1d

I asked because I thought you had the ability to give an answer relevant to the question, but it’s becoming clear that’s not the case. I think you probably have a good heart, but it’s clear to me your childhood severely damaged your ability to think clearly and be receptive to ideas that challenge your own. The world does not revolve around how you feel. Again I’m sorry about how you were raised, but the way you are speaking is alarming, and I hope that you are able to heal and grow as a person

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Anonymous #5 1d

That’s exactly what you’re doing? I genuinely can’t tell if you’re trolling because of how little sense you are making

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Anonymous OP 1d

I disgree. The average man does support women, NOT feminism, is NOT indifferent, and the only reason you are saying these things is because you are angry and want to hurt men. Your idea is false, hurtful, and indicative of moral problems. Reevaluate your beliefs

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Anonymous #4 1d

Dude you’ve sat here for twenty minutes focusing on a question YOU ASKED to try to derail the argument. Don’t try to act like I’m the one unable to make a relevant argument here

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Anonymous #4 1d

If you don’t want to have a real discussion then stop responding

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Anonymous #5 1d

why are you backtracking now and saying i lied when you YOURSELF AGREED WITH ME and said the same thing?😭

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Anonymous #5 1d

I asked you why the post hurt your feelings and you started talking about your mom. Please tell me how your childhood experience is relevant to a woman sharing her personal opinion on men that’s based on facts and data.

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Anonymous OP 1d

Good point, I worded it wrong in that post. We aren’t AWARE of it the way women are, because we aren’t women. The same way women aren’t as aware of misandry. That’s Technically indifference, but it’s a different type of indifference. I was saying men don’t always see it, you’re trying to say that men ignore it

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Anonymous #5 1d

It’s two different ideas and I used the same word to describe it, which is my bad

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Anonymous #4 1d

Please tell me how arguing about why I brought up my mom is relevant to this argument

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Anonymous #5 1d

Because if you can’t tell me a valid reason why the post upset you, then your claim of her statement being “awful” doesn’t hold up. It hurt your feelings because it reminded you of how your mom used to speak to you. But she wasn’t saying the things your mom said and she wasn’t trying to hurt you when she said them. She was sharing her opinion. Nothing you’ve said has been backed up with facts or logic, just that your feelings are hurt.

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Anonymous #4 1d

You asked why I was upset. “Upset” is an emotion. Emotions don’t follow logic. I DISAGREE because what op said is untrue. If you don’t understand the difference between upset and disagree, that’s not my fault

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Anonymous #5 1d

You disagree with her opinion that’s based on statistics and data? If that’s the case then yes you’re absolutely correct in saying that your emotions don’t follow logic. I’m not sure what you thought you would achieve by behaving this way. Is there any way you can prove she is wrong? Why wouldn’t you try to provide evidence instead of just saying she is horrible and feminism is bad and that your feelings are hurt?

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Anonymous #4 1d

There’s no statistical data for men being “indifferent”. It’s not provable data. It’s subjective. That’s a concept you clearly have a hard time with. You aren’t here to have a real argument, you’re just here to try to twist the discussion. Please stop responding at this point, since you have no real point to make

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Anonymous #5 1d

There is absolutely statistical data on male indifference to the violent crimes of their peers I encourage you to look into it. Subjectivity can definitely be quantified, whether you can wrap your head around it or not. It is ridiculous to me that you can’t defend your claim at all yet you are absolutely immovable on it.

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Anonymous #4 1d

My point is that she is entitled to her opinion because there’s nothing that can prove she is wrong. Time and time again men show they see women as less than men and it is proven with evidence in behavioral studies, violent crime stats, and sex crime stats. Your response to her opinion only proved her point. I won’t call you a misogynist, because I don’t know you outside of this discussion, but it looks like the shoe fits you quite well.

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Anonymous #4 1d

No, there isn’t. Data like that doesn’t exist. There is data on men committing crimes, there isn’t data on women committing crimes and men not reporting them. There is data on the fact that most infant deaths or injuries are the result of negligent mothers, but there’s no data on those mothers friends indifference. Some things can’t be calculated, even if you saw an article claiming to

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Anonymous #5 1d

Literally look it up. Just because you say something doesn’t make it true. Be open to new concepts. It’s a quantifiable fact based on numerous studies from numerous sources. I promise they are not hard to find.

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Anonymous #4 1d

opinions can’t be proven or disproven, that’s why it’s an opinion. I’m entitled to disagree with her, especially when she says something horrible. Time and time again women show they see men as less than themselves and it’s proven in behavioral studies, violent crime stats, and negligent parenting stats. Your response to my Opinion only proved my point. I won’t call you a misandrist, because I don’t know you outside of this discussion, but the shoe fits

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Anonymous #5 1d

But again, if you aren’t willing to have a real discussion, then stop responding. What she said is horrible. Misandry is not okay. End of story

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Anonymous #4 1d

Just because you read something doesn’t make it true. You absolutely cannot quantify indifference. This is not an opinion it’s a fact

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Anonymous #5 22h

Anddddd this is why you single

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Anonymous #4 17h

It feels cringe bc it’s always used by white ppl in racist ways

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Anonymous maango 5h

All people are this way. Men and women. I see girls in my friend group complain about dudes that don’t buy them enough stuff or expected her to pay half on something… like yea that’s normal on a first date… idk I’m just saying don’t put women on a pedestal like they can do no wrong

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