I just feel like Greek life siphons so much money away from better stuff. All Greek life really provides is a weird sense of division between different orgs even though they're literally all the same and a sort of superiority complex on every single person that's in one. Like I genuinely do not understand the point of it. Anything Greek life provides can be done in much more accessible ways so it just straight up doesn't have a point to me

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Anonymous OP 8w

It’s fun that’s the point

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Anonymous #3 8w

Okay but in order to have that "fun" you have to pay a shit ton of money and sometimes go through actual physical and mental torture to be accepted into a group of people that might not even like you all that much. Also the "fun" in question is readily available to non-Greeks??? You don't have to be Greek to go to a party? The whole thing seems like such a waste of time like what does Greek life SPECIFICALLY offer that cannot be obtained any other way? Hazing? That's all I can think of

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Anonymous OP 8w

But no one’s making u join dude if people wanna join that’s their business. Life can be boring. 20 yos wanna do something crazy

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But like other clubs/groups do philanthropy and they don't get in trouble for sexual assault and/or drug overdose and/or hazing literally all the time. Greek life brings so many issues it is just straight up not worth it

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Anonymous #3 8w

I just don't think we should have groups that exist for the sole purpose of doing crazy stupid dangerous shit on our campuses 🤷‍♂️ go skydiving or something damn

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Anonymous OP 8w

I don’t think we should be telling people what to do unless it affects others. They know what they’re signing up for

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Anonymous #3 8w

But it does affect others. That's my point. People get sexually and physically assaulted at Greek events all the time and nobody ever gaf. People get hazed and literally die from it and nobody cares. I don't think we should be letting people sign up for what's basically the "bully the fuck out of everybody and constantly hey in trouble for heinous shit but sometimes you get to go to a party" club

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Anonymous OP 8w

Nah that’s bullshit and you know it. People get assaulted and spiked all over the world. If there wasn’t Greek life the predators would just go somewhere else. And orgs get shutdown for hazing gone wrong. If nobody cared, you wouldn’t know about it

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Just because it didn't happen to you doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Hazing is illegal, yes, but it is so incredibly easy to not get reported for it unless you genuinely kill someone. Not to mention the other crimes I've already brung up like sexual assault, physical assault, drug abuse, etc. I understand that it's not allowed but that has literally never stopped anyone from doing anything ever since there's pretty much no punishment for it.

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Anonymous #3 8w

You absolutely cannot deny that there is a problem with assault in Greek life just because it happens in other places. Literally what?

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Anonymous OP 8w

Obviously that’s not true. Why do you have frats? Is it some misplaced sense of “greater good” or are you just hating from the outside?

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Hate

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Anonymous OP 8w

You absolutely cannot pretend getting rid of Greek life would stop assault

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I understand that Greek life didn't create the concept of sexual assault, yes. I don't know what kind of perfect fairytale school you go to, but every single time a major Greek event happens there are reports of people getting assaulted. Every single time without fail. Greek life didn't create sexual assault but it sure as hell does make it much easier for it to happen. There's a lot of weird rapey culture that surrounds a lot of frats and even sororities. It's just true.

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Anonymous #3 8w

You can probably figure out why I don't like frats based on what I've been saying this whole time

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Anonymous #3 8w

I never said it would. But it happens much more often in most Greek life adjacent events. It's literally just true I don't know what to tell you.

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Anonymous OP 8w

So nobody should go out and party ever we should all just stay home because bad things happen

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I literally never said that removing Greek life would solve every problem completely but it would absolutely help to make some of these problems a little better because these problems are so deeply ingrained with Greek Life specifically please read what I'm typing 😭😭😭😭😭

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Anonymous #3 8w

Yes that's exactly what I'm saying obviously. Like 😭?

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Anonymous OP 8w

If Greek life didn’t throw parties, someone else would throw parties, and people would get assaulted at THOSE parties. This solves nothing

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Every single Greek life event *at my school. All I'm really saying is that Greek life invites sexual assault on campuses. They throw most of the parties (which you admit are a frequent setting for assault) and due to most organizations' reluctance to report incidents like that due to getting in trouble, they're an incredibly common place to become a victim of assault. Less Greek life = less random ass parties where bad shit doesn't get reported = less sexual assault. Period.

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Anonymous OP 8w

So in other words, nobody should party because bad things happen. That’s what your argument whittles down to you can split hairs all you want

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Okay then when those new organizations do the same shit we get rid of them too. Easy peasy. Like just because something else will come to replace it doesn't make it any less bad??? What is your point??? 😭

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The Problem Is That Shit Happens At Greek Parties Specifically That Nobody Wants To Report Because If They Do Their Organization Will Be In Trouble And Therefore Greek Parties Are Often More Dangerous Than Non-Greek Gatherings Oh My God How Many Times Do I Need To Say This 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

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Anonymous OP 8w

Okay ur wrong be quiet now plz

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Anonymous #3 8w

So you just like can't come up with anything else or 😭😭😭😭😭

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