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So here’s the thing about censorship: the minute you enact it, you become a fascist. And I don’t use that word lightly, given what’s happened recently
If you’re pro “ao3 should not allow problematic/illegal ships” I’m gunna hold your hand and say that will literally never happen. Ao3 was created so someone could read Winchester brothers banging each other. Anti-censorship is core to the entire website
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Anonymous 2w

imagine being an ACTUAL victim of CSA, r*pe, abuse, etc. and having to deal with dumbass people arguing about fictional characters

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Anonymous 2w

Really?

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Anonymous 2w

being called a fascist because i don’t think child pornography should be allowed is crazy

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

I don’t in any way endorse child porn. But I will defend someone’s right to speak/right about it because freedom of speech doesn’t end with my opinions.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

What if it’s not written about in a positive light? What if it’s about the discussions of child pornography and its effects on their life later? A writer would still have to tag it as explicit descriptions of child pornography. What’s considered child pornography? Mentions of it but not descriptions of it? What’s considered a graphic enough description of it? Who decides if it is or isn’t explicit enough? What if the fanfiction is about consensual sex between two teenagers written BY a teenager

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

These sort of rules about what you can and cant post on an ARCHIVE is just not logistically feasible even if you somehow manage to make rules that everyone can agree on. Writers would just stop tagging anything that contains banned material and still post it. If it’s deleted they can make a new account and just post it again.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

And this is writing, not art. Even if there was some sort of reporting system by readers for banned content (which totally wouldn’t be abused in shit like ship wars🙄) The VOLUNTEERS who work for ao3 would have to read through an entire fucking fanfiction to see if the fic actually did break the rules.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

this is a lot because i said people should not be okay with elaborate writings of childhood sexual assault for the use of pleasure. there are stories written about real kids and you’re talking about shipping wars?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

My point is that A) how do you differentiate the two and B) how are you going to enforce it in the first place

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

And people aren’t okay with it, which is why it’s tagged and you can filter it out. Otherwise people will stop tagging things that will get them banned and then unsuspecting people will read nasty shit. And yes, I brought up shipping wars because people will absolutely 100000% abuse a system meant to ban writings of childhood sexual assault for things as stupidly petty as a shipping war

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

Also how elaborate is elaborate? How do you define where the cut-off is? Who deems what’s explicit enough and what’s not? How are you going to make a small team of volunteers parse through thousands of fics flagged for depictions of sexual assault when all along some fics just had mentions and not explicit depictions of it? I’m not asking you to be okay with fucking child rape, I’m asking you how you’re going to LOGISTICALLY make an enforceable system

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

We’re NOT okay with it dude!! We just know what would happen with censorship, and it’s bad! And while we’re at it, release the Epstein files, all pedophiles deserve death, blah blah, we don’t like it dog. We just support the right to free speech

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 2w

yeah i am which is why i find that y’all are defending actual child porn so hard disturbing

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

Me: how are you going to reasonably ban anything on an archive You: Child Porn Defender!!! 🫵 Like dude. You realize if you enact a ban on any “elaborate” (still haven’t defined what that means) depictions of child porn, you are also banning people’s and characters stories of their past experiences with it. Not only are real people not allowed to talk about what they went to, but literally any character will not be allowed to have that backstory because they’re not allowed to

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

Also, because I didn’t make this clear earlier- I’m not calling you a fascist because you think child porn should be disallowed. I’m calling you a fascist because you want to censor speech so it aligns with your ideals. We (and most people) agree that child porn is bad and wrong. I just think that censorship is also wrong.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

this is such a dumb take because?? there is very much a reason censorship = fascism. if u think some piece of writing/FICTION is wrong and want to ban it then u can think wtv u like. but if u try banning it, people will take that as an excuse to ban EVERYTHING. like talks about LGBTQ or race or ethnicity or ANYTHING AT ALL. there is no possible form of censorship bc if u do it for one thing then everything will be censored eventually. and with everything censored? yes that is fascism.

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 2w

Really.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

Don’t let them silence you, you’re absolutely right

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