Anonymous #2 6w

Wait until you hear how much I’ve given Microsoft and Nintendo. That’s every PS5 game I own, and it’s about a fifth of the size of my Xbox and Nintendo libraries. I don’t mind giving companies money to OWN things. I have no interest in paying them for the privilege of playing their game until they decide I can’t.

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Anonymous #2 6w

Does that not make his point even stronger? This is someone who was clearly a Sony fan for a long time, criticizing them for what they’ve become

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Anonymous #2 6w

Bro has neither a heart nor a brain

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Anonymous #1 6w

They’re going to (/already have?) get rid of physical disks and move to completely online stuff

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Anonymous #6 6w

There’s about a dozen court decisions that state otherwise.

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Anonymous OP 6w

Which ones? As I understand it you only physically own the disc, manual, and license to play. You don’t own the rights to any of the software, IP, or code…

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Anonymous #6 6w

Start with these: UMG Recordings, Inc. v. Augusto, 628 F.3d 1175 (9th Cir. 2011) SoftMan Products Co. v. Adobe Systems Inc., 171 F. Supp. 2d 1075 (C.D. Cal. 2001) Krause v. Titleserv, Inc., 402 F.3d 119 (2d Cir. 2005)

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Anonymous #6 6w

Universal Instruments Corp. v. Micro Systems Engineering, Inc., 924 F.3d 32 (2d Cir. 2019) Bobbs-Merrill Co. v. Straus, 210 U.S. 339 (1908) Vernor v. Autodesk, Inc., 621 F.3d 1102 (9th Cir. 2010)

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Anonymous #6 6w

Owning a license to play is enough to say you own the copy. That’s why you can make backup ROMs. For Sony to take away digital ownership means buying isn’t owning (so piracy isn’t stealing 🏴‍☠️)

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Anonymous OP 6w

This is what I was saying, no? Genuinely not trying to be obtuse.

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Anonymous #4 6w

I didn’t think most games after the PS3/ Xbox 360 era had the actual game files on the disc anymore. I thought that’s the whole reason you have to digitally download the whole game once you insert the disk.

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Anonymous #6 6w

Owning a license is owning a license to the software. The files needed to play are on the disc and are transferable with the disc. I can lend you a copy or I can sell it to you and you can play it. A “license” does not grant you access to the source code to produce your own copies of the game to redistribute, which is perhaps where your confusion lies, but it is a legally fungible copy of the game.

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Anonymous #6 6w

The fact that you have to download a huge bunch of files is because games are rushed to “gold master” status without being completely bug free and you often have to download patches day 1 to fix the most egregious bugs. The way game architectures can work you may need to download quite a lot of files to make it playable. Alternatively some games may require “installation” in order to run, which takes the game files and unzips them on a hard disk for faster load times.

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Anonymous #4 6w

What was an “optional” install for the 360 became mandatory installs on later consoles.

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Anonymous #4 6w

I should have elaborated more in my initial post but this was my understanding. I’m not against physical discs and I’m not a corporate suck up either, for all I care people can pirate whatever whenever.

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Anonymous #4 6w

I remember when I had an Xbox One, I would have to download the whole game after inserting the disc via the Microsoft store. I couldn’t offline and the download speeds were limited to my internet download speeds as opposed to CD -> HDD file transfer which I would assume to be faster than 10 mbps which is around my old shitty AT&T ISP

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Anonymous #4 6w

Funnily enough, I vaguely remember that Destiny required you to install the game on the Xbox 360. You couldn’t just pop it in an play like BO2 or any other game I ever played on my console.

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Anonymous #6 6w

At any rate, you do bring up some very important implications considering the fact that more and more game discs are just licenses and do not contain any actual files. One of the big ways we’re able to preserve old games that are no longer hosted on platforms (the Nintendo 3DS is a great example) is because the discs and the carts _hold the game files_. Some of these may just be lost to the sands of time, and it’s corporate greed that lands us in that position.

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Anonymous #6 6w

Yeah the seeds were planted then with COD too. “Mandatory installs” were a controversy.

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Anonymous #6 6w

Getting a zillion downvotes all of a sudden? People be brigading and I genuinely have no idea why.

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Anonymous #5 6w

Damn that sucks. Whole point is so every system have to re-buy the games. Cheap fucks

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Anonymous #8 6w

No it’s because now you can no longer truly own your own video games. Sony can decide whenever that you just can’t play a game anymore and take off your console. You will own nothing and be happy about it

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Anonymous #6 6w

But prior to this. You had the disc and could play the game. Now you can’t even do that

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Anonymous #10 6w

The same place as every other one of my favorite games: Xbox

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Anonymous #9 6w

Yes? We’re on the same… team…?

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Anonymous #9 6w

Like I literally said that, lmao. Has the world’s reading comprehension dropped off to zero? The news that Sony is stopping selling discs is objectively terrible news, and the state of how discs are often sold is also bad. From bad to worse.

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Anonymous #4 6w

9 was replying to 6

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Anonymous #3 6w

Ok, yeah, my b. I’d just woken up. 6 is good everybody, they understand.

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Anonymous #4 6w

I was replying to 6

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Anonymous #8 6w

That definitely isn’t “the point,” dumbass.

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Anonymous OP 6w

Don’t bitch about about shit you bought then dumbass

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Anonymous #8 6w

You have to be trying to miss the point

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Anonymous #8 6w

I’m not. I’m “bitching” about not being able to buy it. You really might be the dumbest motherfucker on the entire internet.

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Anonymous slizzered 6w

Yeah, I have almost 500 XB360 games for that very reason. That console generation was definitely the height of gaming thus far, imo, with 16-bit being close behind.

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Anonymous #14 6w

I have several devices of that nature. You, like many others, are missing the point. I have a fucking PSP Go that’s modded to hell; a homebrew retropie handheld I designed, built, and molded myself; a steamdeck; an ROG Ally; a retroid; and a Miyoo. None of that is relevant to this specific issue and the concern it raises.

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