girl read the room. i’m sure she knows, she doesn’t need someone on yikyak being condescending

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Anonymous #3 20h

I didn’t either. Should definitely be more known. Thank fuck for health insurance. Feel horrible for those who don’t have access to it.

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Shut your bitch ass up we don’t need that right now 😭

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"you can either deal with an abortion, pregnancy, or being abstinent" the fact that you felt compelled to say this tells me you don't even have two brain cells to rub together

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anyway, all men will be sterilized except for 10,000 randomly selected each year for breeding so that women don't have to deal with that choice

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Anonymous #7 19h

Some do, and some don’t. Depends on the one you have sadly. Should always be covered

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Anonymous #6 18h

I’m sorry what?

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Some people don’t know when their fertile window is. My cycle is so irregular that I never have any way of knowing 🤷‍♀️

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Sperm can live in the vagina for 5 days while an egg is only able to live for one sometimes even a little over that. Men are the ones responsible for getting a woman pregnant as they are fertile 24/7 365 days a year. If men cant handle the responsibility then they should choose to not have sex

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Anonymous #5 18h

both parties are responsible. I’m bored

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Anonymous OP 18h

Health insurance shouldn’t even exist. 😞 Healthcare should be accessible to everyone regardless of work or income.

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Anonymous #5 17h

Exactly. Men treat sex like it’s meant for their pleasure. When, in reality, it’s meant for women. Women can only get pregnant those 6 days, yet here they are the one on the pill, responsible for the consequences of men’s ill behavior, and the cost and trauma of an abortion/plan b. Men go around fucking anyone and anything, like they don’t have not a worry in the world. Men should be on birth control, period.

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No literally like can’t you keep in your pants for 6 days or make sure both parties are being safe???? Stop playing the victim these are the consequences of your actions

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I’ll spell it out for you….contraceptive failure. Fucking idiot. If men were the ones on the pill, and a women still got pregnant, yall would be a lot more understanding.

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Simple solution: shut the fuck up 🥰

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What if they aren’t ready for marriage or don’t want to be married?

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Anonymous #5 17h

Don’t have sex

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And what then? You get pregnant and still aren’t ready? The baby is born into an ill fit environment and faces the consequences forever? RIGHT

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Anonymous #14 17h

lmao no no no you can’t be logical they caught the pregnancy like it was a cold! totally on the whim be nice and understanding!

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Anonymous #15 17h

You do realize sex is part of being a healthy person right?

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Anonymous #5 17h

Not at all lol

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Anonymous OP 17h

The main point of sex is to conceive a child- if you aren’t ready for that don’t have sex

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Anonymous #15 17h

So what happens if the person is gay then? Is sex still to make a child?

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Anonymous #5 17h

It doesn’t work like that 😂 sex= penis in vagina

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Anonymous #12 17h

Both of you are idiots. It’s called contraceptive failure and women can still get pregnant before ovulation. If men were sterile, there would be a 0% chance of pregnancy.

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Anonymous #15 17h

There it is everyone. This persons argument is now invalid because they think sex is only putting a dick in a pussy

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Contraceptive failure. Probably how you happened

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Anonymous #14 17h

Someone’s not getting laid😭

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Anonymous OP 17h

I’m not the dumbass who got knocked up

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Anonymous #14 17h

Doesn’t hurt to show compassion

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Anonymous #15 17h

Then explain to me why we can all orgasm?

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Anonymous #5 17h

Don’t care

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Anonymous OP 17h

And also explain why orgasms have been proven to be important to both mental and physical health..

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Can happen before ovulation idiot

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Anonymous OP 17h

anyways, my Halloween costume is out for delivery 😜 hope you heal up nice tho 😂!

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Anonymous #12 17h

Are you dressing up as the dick you have in your ass or is it more of a pussy shape to reflect your inner self?

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Anonymous #5 17h

its going to fit real sexy over my healthy body that’s all ik

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Anonymous #12 17h

Hun I don’t think much can fit over your body

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Anonymous #5 17h

I was thinking more the condom she didn’t use

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Anonymous #14 17h

Don’t worry next time we’ll make sure to sell more condoms with spikes in them

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Anonymous #5 17h

that would make you feel much better wouldn’t it 🤣💋

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Anonymous #14 17h

I’m not the one who needs an abortion why would I be the one not using condoms? you hos are FUMING 😂😂

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Anonymous #12 17h

Awe I’m so glad! Poor thing shits on other women because she hates herself. Can’t imagine.

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Anonymous #12 17h

Me when I hate myself

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Anonymous OP 17h

that’s shitting on other women by replying to snarky ass replies? lmfaooo victim mode activated

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Anonymous #14 17h

Stfu you miserable troll

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Anonymous #14 17h

You must live a miserable life not being able to show compassion for other people. I’m sorry

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Simple solution: shut up and never talk again because you are so stupid it’s genuinely embarrassing

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Anonymous #14 17h

I’m so sorry for whatever is going on in your life for you to be so upset

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Anonymous #13 17h

Literally. Bros never heard of masturbation

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Anonymous #12 17h

Where do you go to college? Genuinely asking because it is so unbelievable somebody this stupid could be let in that I need to where to avoid

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Anonymous OP 17h

Sex education needs to be taught more so we can prevent these people from commenting such nonsense

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Anonymous #18 17h

And 90% they are. Contraceptive failure, rape, the fact that you can get pregnant before ovulation. Just say you aren’t educated babe

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Anonymous #18 17h

Please make everyone’s life easier and just admit to being an ignorant dumbass

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Anonymous #17 17h

how dare you say getting pregnant takes two! who educated you! that’s so dumb!

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Anonymous #15 17h

Thanks for the laugh! I love when idiots flop their thumbs about as if they understand anything.

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Diva I’m on your side, I was replying to #15 😭

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Anonymous #12 17h

Someone clearly wasn’t raised right bc my parents would disown me if I was as dumb as you

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Anonymous #17 17h

how dare you! everyone knows humans are asexual reproducers! the nerve of you!

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Anonymous OP 17h

theres nuance for rape but if u have sex where both parties consent unfortunately if u r a woman u r accepting the risk of pregnancy, its just biology. not saying it’s fair, im saying accountability needs to be taken when appropriate.

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Anonymous #18 17h

If this is the case what happens when someone is unable to consent

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Anonymous #12 17h

dude u need to chill and move on lol ur getting real worked up over a bunch of nothing that shouldn’t matter to u 💀

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Anonymous #5 17h

reread what i said then ask again

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Anonymous #19 17h

I’m not the one who started name calling 🤣 take your own advice

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First of all — that’s not how it works dumbass. Second of all, my cycle, personally, is so irregular it’s virtually impossible to know when my fertile window is. Bodies are complicated and a blanket solution like that won’t work for a lot of people

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Anonymous #18 17h

Someone can consent while drunk and it still isn’t considered consent. You have to look at it from multiple perspectives

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Anonymous #17 17h

If it’s so irregular then, don’t you think it’s important you go on protective things like BC, pill, patch, IUD?? Whether they’re 100% effective or not, it’s ignorant to blame a man when we’re the ones fertile - which to get pregnant is actually very difficult considering yeah we only have a small window unless we’re like incredibly fertile as fuck🤣 I wasn’t condescending OP - I was just informing

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Anonymous #1 17h

Nah, they can jerk off or get a vasectomy.

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Anonymous #1 17h

Men are just as responsible

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Anonymous #21 17h

Doesn’t mean you can’t have sympathy? You think it’s right for an abortion to cost that much? If men were the ones getting pregnant, they would be free and so would period products

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Also, “we know when we’re ovulating based on discharge” is fully not true. You can ovulate without visible extra mucous excretions. Again, everyone’s body is different.

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Anonymous #5 17h

depending on level of intoxication, its either consensual sex or it’s rape. just because u felt tipsy when making a choice then regret it later doesn’t mean u didn’t fully choose to engage in sex. again, accountability when necessary.

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Anonymous #12 17h

Man if I wanted to die I’d jump from my IQ to yours

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Anonymous #11 17h

Or we can be abstinent? Y’all act like sex doesn’t have consequences. Again, I’m not dissing on any of yall, or on OP, I’m just SAYING sex of any form HAS consequences. Whether it be the cost of an abortion, pregnancy, or suckiness of NOT having sex. I’m just saying be aware rather than bitch and moan about something that IS/CAN be bound to happen

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Anonymous #1 17h

Again, my prayers to OP, hope all goes well for her whichever decision she chooses, it’s just a live and learn moment

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Anonymous #18 17h

I understand what you mean I just feel like we shouldn’t be so quick to assume all cases are the same. Sometimes both parties can consent but one person could have coerced the person into saying yes or the person could be underage and even when someone has authority power over another person it is considered to be unconsentual

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Anonymous #17 17h

how dare you say it takes two humans to reproduce, that’s so dumb, durrrrr

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I believe they should be too. I’d love for them to take accountability, but for now, we’re the only ones “accountable”

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Anonymous OP 17h

I make decisions based on what is, not what should be.

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Anonymous #17 17h

Ok thank you. Was expecting some support rn

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Anonymous #1 17h

Get on birth control to regulate my periods… you’re a genius!!! I’ve literally never thought about that!!! Bitch. I’ve tried and am trying different birth control methods but every single one has caused terrible side effects. You really think you ate with that but you’re just revealing how genuinely, embarrassingly stupid you are. The fact that someone like you with a single digit IQ can get into college is terrifying

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Female sperm actually are the ones that survive longer . Male sperm died off faster .

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Anonymous OP 16h

Oh girl I’m with you, this comment section is so stupid it’s kind of mind boggling. Really sorry you’re going through this and sending you love 🫂

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Anonymous #20 16h

That only works for a really short amount of time after having sex.

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Anonymous #17 16h

Exactly, why wait after

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Anonymous #5 16h

like i said, there’s nuance for rape. u r just rewording it as “unconsentual”. that’s rape

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Anonymous #26 16h

Keep your mouth closed dipshit

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Anonymous #17 16h

You genuinely don’t have to be soooo disrespectful when speaking to someone. I’ve been nothing but kind and you’ve just disagreed with my own words and opinions. BC doesn’t work to regulate for everyone, but it protects against ovulation bc in BC you CANNOT OVULATE FYI

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Anonymous #25 16h

Yes you’re correct sorry that’s what I meant🙏🏼😭

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Anonymous #17 16h

nah, people need to learn to keep there legs closed or just accept the consequences if they are active

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Anonymous #26 16h

Does this apply to men?

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Anonymous #5 16h

Yea

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Anonymous #5 16h

Goes both ways

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Anonymous #17 16h

Mine was better

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Anonymous #27 16h

What if…we ban sex

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Anonymous #20 16h

If you’re on birth control most people don’t really expect it to fail bruh

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Anonymous #27 16h

I’m so sorry to you. How unfair. Men go around fucking anyone and anything, yet are mad about having kids. Then go and ban women’s from having rights to their own bodies. That’s so scary.

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Anonymous #17 16h

THIS

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Anonymous #27 16h

Just awful. I’m so sorry girl :(

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Anonymous #23 16h

K

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Anonymous #12 16h

? who did i name call mamas the only person i’ve replied to is you

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condom doesn’t always work? also… yall act like women aren’t allowed enjoy sex and have sex! i’m p sure if you started this entire trend of women just not having sex bc of this.. men would be the first to complain they can’t get some

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Anonymous #12 16h

Imagining having a child as dumb as you is nightmare fuel 😬

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Anonymous #7 16h

Go to planc, I think they offer pill abortions for like $300

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Anonymous #17 16h

likewise. you’re so triggered you can’t even repeat what I said that was so dumb. LMFAOOO.

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Anonymous #30 16h

No they don’t I got them for 30 dollars

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Anonymous #29 16h

There 0-300 dollars you pick the price

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Anonymous #7 16h

Plan C pills I have had 2 abortions from there for less then 100 dollars each

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Anonymous desert_pinching 16h

Sure did. I’m letting girls know how expensive it is. I didn’t know and It should be more well known. Thankfully I have insurance but some people don’t

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Anonymous #29 16h

Well I maybe wrong tbh. I’ve never actually utilized them, for some reason I just thought during my pregnancy scare last year that’s how much they quoted me

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Anonymous #7 16h

Having a baby would cost you so much more than that, even if you were to consider adoption you would probably have to pay medical bills

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Anonymous #35 16h

abortion is never an easy decision, please take some time on your own to decide and hopefully to find a cheaper method. life is and will forever be unpredictable. only you know what is best for yourself, so don't let these comments shame you!! ❤️❤️❤️

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Anonymous #14 16h

Fuck you

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Anonymous #14 16h

A fetus is more of a parasite than it is a human

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Anonymous #12 16h

it’s never that serious lmao take your seroquel and go outside for a minute

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Anonymous #30 16h

A fetus is only a baby when you want it to be 🤦‍♀️

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Anonymous #14 16h

We’re so cooked as a society

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Anonymous #14 16h

Murderer? Give me the name of anyone aborted. Oh! You can’t. Because it’s literally cells😭

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Anonymous OP 16h

Life begins at conception “just cells” no that’s a baby you just killed

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Anonymous #14 15h

So then if you eat an egg, are you eating a chick? Bc most eggs you buy at the grocery store are fertilized.

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Anonymous #14 15h

If I took the “baby” out now, put it in clothes, and fed it milk, I'd be playing with a puddle of sludge. That ain’t no baby lmao😭

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Anonymous #36 15h

I’m not under anyone’s comment going on and on you’re under mine. oh ok! yeah.

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Anonymous #14 15h

abortion has been around for over 3000 years. lol

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Anonymous #30 15h

Your stupidity is killing me, there’s no way that’s your argument please tell me you’re joking

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Anonymous OP 15h

You’re not giving the baby a chance to grow

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Anonymous #37 15h

What options do you not have as a woman that men have

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Anonymous #14 15h

Wow there really is no hope for your braindead self.

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Anonymous #14 15h

You were given too many chances and you still turned out dumb lol

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Anonymous #12 15h

Literally

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Anonymous #9 15h

what wasn't clear?

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Anonymous #15 15h

They’re too stupid to understand queen

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Anonymous #14 15h

You’re literally saying it’s not baby right now then? Literally by your logic then I could take it out right now and call it a baby😭

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Anonymous #28 15h

this is already basically happening. men call it the "male loneliness epidemic" lmao

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Anonymous #19 15h

And it’s becomes more normalized than ever hence, it’s going to have more drastic impacts on our society in the future when we’re wondering why we’re declining as a population and don’t have enough people to do all the jobs that makes the world work

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Anonymous OP 15h

So by your logic, you just murdered a baby. Got it. Thanks for admitting it.

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Anonymous #17 15h

And there’s no hope for your psychopathic ideology

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Anonymous #14 15h

You have got to decide at what point then an animal is a baby animal across all species. You can’t say it’s different just bc we’re human

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Anonymous #30 15h

YOU DON’T BUY FERTILIZED CHICKEN EGGS TO CONSUME FROM THE STORE PLEASE DO YOUR RESEARCH

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Anonymous #12 15h

I made one reply to you and sorry for pointing out you sound manic lmao

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Anonymous #14 15h

Tbh we need to decline in our population numbers. We already are over populating the planet and killing it.

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Anonymous #30 15h

🤦‍♀️

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Anonymous #14 15h

No babe, read it again. By logic I “killed” a pool of cells. That’s no baby inside

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Anonymous #14 15h

We have caused so many species to go extinct, we are the cause for climate change, and the decline in natural environments. We have ruined earth wether you want to admit it or not

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Anonymous #36 15h

replied to me to say a whole lot of nothing. lmfao

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Anonymous #12 15h

take a deep breath

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Anonymous #14 15h

there’s literally 4 billion women on the planet. women having access to abortion does not mean it’s going to result in the total extinction of humankind. that’s a ridiculous and juvenile and frankly outlandish way of thinking. climate change, nuclear war, and class disparity will probably cause the total declination of society, not a random woman getting an abortion. lmfao

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Anonymous #14 15h

Didn’t admit I killed a baby. You did tho. You vote to make it acceptable for children that get raped by their family members to keep their pregnancy and likely die as a result.

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Anonymous #14 15h

You’re the murderer

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Anonymous #36 15h

go freshen yours up and stop tagging me go find a friend

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Anonymous OP 15h

You’re pathetic

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Anonymous #14 15h

Yes you do, I grew up on a farm. If there is a rooster the eggs are fertilized. They just put it in the fridge before they have a chance to develop into a chick. Good lord

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Anonymous #14 15h

I raised chickens. I’m pretty sure I know dumb fuck

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Anonymous #30 15h

Then you’d know they don’t sell fertilized eggs at a store because the eggs they collect from a farm to sell the store are from hens who have only been in contact with other hens

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Anonymous #30 15h

Pathetic for putting myself first? Not putting a baby in an environment that I as a parent can’t afford, don’t have time for, and aren’t prepared to do. You’re pathetic for hating women

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Anonymous OP 15h

Adoption is always an option

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Anonymous #14 15h

So put my body through hell just to put a child into a system where 66,000 finalized adoption fail? They end up on the street? You really think that’s better? Wow.

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Anonymous #14 15h

The option to not have to pay for an abortion because men aren’t carrying the child yet have just as much involvement in a pregnancy as a woman does. The option to be respected and not belittled for every choice a woman makes. The option to walk down a street and not have to fear for your life. The option to act however men please because “boys will be boys”. My question for you is why do you have so much hatred in your heart?

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Anonymous #14 15h

The eggs at the store are embryos. Not fetuses. So the same comparison as what’s in a women’s uterus until week 8/10. The same thing you keep calling my “baby” that I’m a “murderer”

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Anonymous #14 15h

You are uneducated and it shows

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Anonymous #14 15h

god i wish your mom got an abortion

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Anonymous OP 15h

They still get a chance to live which is what you are wrongly taking away

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Anonymous OP 15h

Both of you are stupid af go read a book

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Anonymous #14 15h

I would have rather not had that chance, I get that it might work out for some people but that shit sucked so bad. Wanting to create life just to put it through tons of unnecessary hardship and struggle is something I will never understand

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Anonymous #13 15h

Life is never perfect but that doesn’t mean you get to take it away from someone

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Anonymous #14 15h

So they can get trafficked, you do realize that a shit ton of kids are trafficked each year through the foster care system, right? Or so they can get exploited for god only knows what. Not to mention alot of adoption agencies are for profit

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Anonymous #30 15h

That still doesn’t give you the right to take away their life

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Anonymous #14 15h

So if you’re really so pro life and want to prevent abortions you should spend your time trying to provide sex ed, ethical adoptions, and things that actually prevent unwanted pregnancy and give women a choice. Shaming strangers on the internet when you don’t know their circumstances is extremely sad and is never going to get you anywhere.

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Anonymous #14 15h

So if your daughter got raped at 12, you’d expect her to give birth to that child, scar her forever, and then put that baby into a foster system that may or may not work in its favor? By your logic, ALL abortions, regardless of the circumstances, are wrong? Even if the women’s pelvis isn’t full developed, even if that would mean the baby could end up on the streets, even if the mother drinks or does drugs, even if the adoption ends in child abuse? YOUR LOGIC MAKES NO SENSE. Cognitive dissonance

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Anonymous #14 15h

It’s not a someone. It’s a fucking embryo you idiot

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Anonymous #2 15h

Deadass

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Anonymous OP 15h

Yes that baby will be born and as a family we would raise that baby together because we welcome babies and don’t seem them as an inconvenience

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Anonymous #30 15h

Who said I’m not?

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Anonymous #39 15h

Community

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Anonymous #14 15h

Yeah so I was actually raped by my brother as a young child. Had I been old enough to pregnant what would you have suggested? I kept an incest baby and I raised it with my abusive brother? Like… that’s so fucked. I already have nightmares and constant reminders of the trauma I went through. Now you want to force me to raise a baby with health issues that is an even more constant reminder of the shit I was put through?

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Anonymous #30 15h

Like I said, adoption

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Anonymous #39 15h

THIS. This is true womanhood. Or what it should be. I’m so sorry that happened to you, and I’m so happy that women showed up for you like they should. Men could never

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Anonymous #14 15h

You welcome incest too? Jesus Christ

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Anonymous OP 15h

I don’t welcome it, it’s wrong, don’t twist my words

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Anonymous #14 14h

Holy shit man. I was 6 when I went through that. If it would’ve happened when I was 12 which is when I would’ve started menstruating, then I wouldn’t have been developed enough to carry a baby. You’d be putting me and the child’s life at risk atp. Not to mention you’d be putting me through the trauma of giving birth and having to do all of the things pregnant women have to do. And when that baby would’ve arrived it likely would’ve had mutations if it even lived at all. plus a short life span

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Anonymous #30 14h

Doesn’t give you the right to end life

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Anonymous #14 14h

I can’t even with you right now. I hope you know that it’s people like you that is what makes society so fucking wrong. I wish fuck heads like you had a little bit of empathy. Because I almost killed myself in my teen years just because of the constant nightmares and trauma. Tbh if I had to carry I child I probably would’ve. And it’s fuckers like you that are a constant reminder of why men think it’s okay to control women’s bodies whether that be through rape or abortion. Fuck you

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Anonymous #30 14h

Ok

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Anonymous #39 14h

omg you were raped. i’m so sorry

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Anonymous #41 14h

They are, in fact, something someone does have to “deal with”. Nobody goes and gets an abortion for fucking fun.

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Anonymous #41 14h

Haunt me how? Literally how. You know what would haunt me? Pushing out a baby I’m not ready for. That would haunt me. This decision is for the quality of myself, my partner, and for future the baby I’ll have when I AM ready. To provide that child with the best quality form of life when I am truly able to. Not force it.

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Anonymous #42 14h

Isn’t that terrible? Then, to top it off, there are sick individuals sitting out front of those clinics with nothing better to do with their time than ignorantly shaming women.

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Yknow people have irregular cycles yeah? I’ve had my period for a decade and it’s literally the perfect normal cycle (almost always perfectly on time, 28 day cycle, lasts 5 days, symptoms are pretty standard) and now I’m randomly expecting my cycle changing by a week out of nowhere. As we grow our hormones shift and our periods change. We may think we’re properly tracking our fertile window but shit happens. You’re also not considering that contraceptions could’ve been used and failed.

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Anonymous OP 13h

Ikr it’s so unfortunate I’m so sorry girl

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It can be really hard to tell the difference in discharge, and sometimes it varies. I’ve had ovulations where my discharge wasn’t heavy and periods where a day before it looked like ovulation discharge. Also everyone’s bodies vary and looking at a chart alone can make it hard to tell what’s happening in your body. And again, unless you’re getting real personal it can be hard to track discharge specifically especially once it hits underwear.

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Anonymous #45 13h

You’re not even supposed to be commenting in this group at all— but you clearly have never seen the side effects that come from BC and the risks they can pose for many, either. You’re able to, hypothetically, impregnate someone new every single moment of every day from puberty until death. You don’t have a monthly cycle of fertility. You don’t spend most of a pregnancy unable to be impregnated again, and your fertility doesn’t just stop at around 50. Pregnancy is much better prevented by you.

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Anonymous #11 13h

Your hormones would be perfectly fine and unaffected by a vasectomy.

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Anonymous #14 13h

a baby is by definition something that has already been born. fetuses are not babies. life begins at conception, personhood does not

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Anonymous #14 13h

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/baby downvote all you want hon

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Anonymous #11 13h

i have seen the side effects and the risks, all i said is that intuition says they might be worse for dudes. yes pregnancy is better prevented by us if were a bunch of monkeys constantly fucking one another like yeah preg rates will reduce, but that isnt the point of bc its to allow people to prevent their own individual pregnancies who cares whats gonna reduce the most pregnancies whys that relevant, if that isnt what you meant then myb but what else does “pregnan is better prevented by u” mean

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Anonymous #11 13h

you hormones would be perfectly fine and unaffected by tubal sterilization.

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Anonymous #45 13h

My cat is smarter than you and she shits on the floor

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Anonymous #45 13h

How about we just completely remove your testes, yeah? Then you won’t have to worry about it at all!

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Anonymous #30 13h

replying to literally just a fact i stated btw😭😭😭

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Anonymous #11 13h

why are yall so pressed over the tubal sterilization😭😭😭 literally where did this come from

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Anonymous #45 13h

Because we have been told our whole lives about what to do with our bodies. Not to mention it is common practice in certain oppressive parts of the world to sterilize women. Sure it happens to men, but it happens way more to women. Not to mention a lot of us are forced on BC from a young age. And the second someone suggest you guys take control of things, which btw have less side effects (like the gel that’s currently in trial) you still are trying to make us do it instead of sharing re

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Anonymous #30 13h

Responsibility

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Anonymous #11 13h

and also vasectomies do a number on your fertility with time, if you have one for 20 years you got a 10% chance of being able to conceive once its undone

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Anonymous #6 13h

can you get sterilized now

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keep your shit in your ass

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Anonymous #45 13h

We’re sick of you dumb fucks who don’t even know your own biology telling us what to do with ours while actively working to revoke access to healthcare and autonomy. YOU are able to cause more pregnancies in one year than any one woman could ever see in a thousand lifetimes. Your ilk are constantly obsessing over sex and your own pleasure, always talking about how “condoms aren’t as fun”, constantly pushing US to be responsible for YOUR irresponsibility. I’m fucking sick of cis men.

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Anonymous #45 13h

Then freeze your sperm and fuck off. Not that your lineage matters.

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Anonymous #45 13h

Men had fewer side effects than women in their studies but eeeeeverything has to cater to you so of course nothing ever happened. Fuck you.

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Anonymous #45 13h

This is bullshit. I should be a shared responsibility and they realistically should be doing more research into male contraceptives. And some women literally become super depressed because of their birth control along with other side effects. And did you realize the whole reason birth control pills were even invented was so women could sneakily control contraception without their husbands knowing? Because it was unsafe for them to not want more kids.

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Anonymous #30 13h

no ones telling you what to do with your body, literally phrased my sentence rhe exact same way you phrased yours, dont dish out what you cannot recieve. And AGAIN i dont give a FUCK abt literally anything you just said, i was only attacking the INTUITIVENESS. if they come out with bc for dudes that would be GREAT, SHIT, id LOVE to take ts into my own hands, give myself some peace of mind. if i was completely wrong abt the side effects and theyre better for men then fucking good????

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Anonymous #45 12h

the solution is to threaten ur abortadaddy that he needs to pay for this shit

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Anonymous #45 12h

yall genuinely get so worked up fighting your own dumbass interpretations of what im saying, next time before you wanna wish castration on me, refer to the shit that i put in double asterisks in my first message and stop trying to figure out what i think abt shit instead of just asking

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Anonymous #45 12h

Get out of our chat

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Anonymous #30 12h

didnt know dudes were discouraged from replying to posts here so ig that is genuinely myf. it is a public forum tho like thats kind of an unrealistic thing to expect but wtv

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Anonymous #45 12h

They’re discouraged from here when they feel the need to comment on what we should do with our bodies. Literally no one asked for your male ass opinion.

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Anonymous #30 12h

literally what even incentivized you to throw in that fun fact at the end? why would you mention that?? whats the point???? how does that apply to anything i was saying? ill get to the other stuff you said but i wanna isolate this for a sec, im very curious

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Anonymous #30 12h

feel free to copy and paste where i commented on what you should do with your bodies and reply to this message with it! thx!

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Anonymous #45 12h

Because the whole reason birth control even became women’s responsibility was because men beat their wives and made them feel like they had to hide pregnancy prevention. They also raped them. The history of birth control isn’t really born out of pregnancy prevention but rather trying to keep women safe. That’s why historically it became women’s responsibility, and it carried onto today’s world. I think had it been created under other pretenses, it’d be more of a shared responsibility

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Anonymous #45 12h

ok well for the record this looks a little worse now cuz 11 deleted their og comment for some reason, but the reply i made where i mentioned tubal sterilization “you hormones would be perfectly fine and unaffected by tubal sterilization.” was a reply to the exact message “your hormones would be perfectly fine and unaffected by a vasectomy.” i was only trying to point out that they had brought up something completely unrelated to the bc i was trying to discuss

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Anonymous #45 12h

i wasnt actually telling anyone to do shit even tho i suppose since 11 deleted their message it could look like that

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Anonymous #30 12h

Not to mention your whole “fucking like monkeys” comment. Bc was literally created bc men couldn’t take no as an answer

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Anonymous #30 12h

ok cool, what does this have to do with what i was arguing?? i dont disagree with any of this and i havent at any point in this convo?

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Anonymous #48 12h

All of those things can fail

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Anonymous #48 12h

No birth control is 100% effective, op could have had it and still gotten pregnant

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Anonymous #48 12h

You don’t know if she already has those things though. There is still a 0.02% chance even with an IUD or a Nexplanon. It could have failed or rejected or literally anything without her input or knowledge. It is the responsibility of both parties, but even being careful results in these things sometimes. Women, responsible or not, should always have access to the care they need.

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Anonymous #43 12h

Like in a jar orrrr

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All the stuff about pregnancy aside, this is still an awful take. Sex and intimacy are a huge part of (most, not all) people’s relationships. You should know that you two are compatible in that sense (or if there are physical issues, i.e. intolerance to PIV or ED) before you commit to someone like that. Sex isn’t everything of course and it doesn’t define love, but you’re being irresponsible to ignore it until after marriage.

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As a lesbian, you have no room to speak about heterosexual relationships. I don’t give lesbian advice on here 😒

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Anonymous #14 12h

“Declining population” is just a term anti-choice people use to scare people. The population will never be declining, and if it somehow does go on a downward trend I guarantee you it will be from famine and war sooner than abortions. Jfc.

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Anonymous #51 11h

🤮🤮

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Anonymous #1 11h

As a pharmacy tech I love how you’re like just get on BC! Like it has no negative effects such as SUICIDAL IDEATION

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Anonymous #1 11h

Also wrong not all sex has consequences

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Anonymous #12 11h

What are you going as? An annoying little shit?

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Anonymous #15 11h

If that was true women wouldn’t have clits…

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Anonymous #15 11h

Also completely wrong lmfaoooo

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As a lesbian myself, why tf are you speaking rn

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Anonymous #17 11h

It’s also only affective for 165 pounds and below

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Anonymous #14 11h

You actually can lol

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Anonymous #14 11h

And how many children have you adopted?

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Anonymous #52 11h

Seeing as I’m not in an ideal situation I have not adopted any children yet

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Anonymous #14 11h

They’d literally die if they gave birth at 6 you moron

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Anonymous #14 11h

So if you wouldn’t adopt a child into an unideal situation, why would someone choose to birth a child into an unideal situation

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Anonymous #30 11h

So they can’t be adopted by a family who wants kids

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Anonymous #45 11h

As a pharmacy tech you’re an absolute fucking moron. BC can fuck you up for life

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Anonymous #14 11h

Ah. Yes, because the lines to adopt kids are absolutely through the door and out into the street. Most kids age out and are left with nothing to their name and suffer as a result.

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Anonymous #11 11h

Not all suffer and they should be given a chance to live

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Anonymous #14 11h

Forcing people to carry a child is not how that’s going to be fixed. Advocating for free and comprehensive healthcare, free education, having healthy food and stable housing available to everyone, a prison reform, gun control, taxing the elites, keeping religion out of politics, and holding greedy fucks accountable is how we can make it so fewer people suffer. But you want to scream “socialism bad!” instead of accepting that how things are now ISN’T FUCKING WORKING.

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Anonymous #14 11h

I think you need to spend some quality time around kids in need and your opinion will change. Parents are selfish and bring kids into bad circumstances all the time and the kids pay the price. I knew a girl who thankfully got adopted out but tried to kill herself at 10 because of the sexual abuse she suffered in foster care. I also got asked if I wanted to adopt a drug addicted baby when I was 19 and could barely afford to feed myself. I wish all of them could get real help and homes they won’t

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Anonymous #14 11h

Sometimes truly loving your kids is not having them if you know their quality of life wouldn’t be high. And that’s a real but very unfortunate truth.

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Anonymous #52 11h

feel free to copy where ever i said bc doesnt fuck ppl up and reply to this comment with it! love when people just make shit the fuck up!!! thats really cool!!!

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Anonymous #1 11h

You’re being disrespectful af assuming op is a dumbass who hasn’t considered BC. Also again, abortion is like insanely expensive for no fucking reason. A lot of healthcare is. Just because I go outside and get sick as a consequence doesn’t mean I can’t then bitch how expensive it is for treatment.

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Anonymous #7 11h

Look into Aid Access if you’re struggling!!!

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Anonymous #12 11h

Girl you’re just embarrassing grow a pair of tits and move on

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Anonymous #13 10h

Exactly, in fact you could finger someone with pre cum and get them pregnant. Hell precum near the vaginal opening can get you pregnant. Sure it’s less likely, especially on your period or with BC, but it’s never 0 which is why abortions exist

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Anonymous #15 10h

#embarassing to admit you don’t think eating someone out is sex lol. Also orgasms are amazing for mental health and women mostly orgasm for pleasure, it’s not required for reproduction. Men have sex for reproduction, women have sex for pleasure 🤷‍♀️

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Not everyone wants marriage, sex outside of marriage is perfectly fine, your “purity” bullshit leads to higher rates of rushed marriage and spousal abuse and increased rates of STIs/STDs with less knowledge of how to seek care.

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Anonymous #20 10h

Also only works before ovulation

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Anonymous #27 10h

Check out Aid Access!! It’s legal in all states!!

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Anonymous #14 10h

Baby ts a zygote

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Anonymous #14 10h

Right right because I’d rather be born with a mother who doesn’t love me and put in a system where I’ll be raped abused and forgotten instead of never existing or having the concept of existence..right right right. So what donations or contributions have you made to pregnant women and kids in your personal life? Sense you care so much?

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Anonymous #51 10h

A family with all the discarded tampons in the trash can lmao

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Anonymous #48 10h

She doesn’t want to be held accountable 🤣

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Anonymous #54 10h

I know someone who is pregnant because she didn’t realize antibiotics messed with her birth control due to her lack of sex ed in school. The unfortunate thing is that accidents happen and not everyone is educated. And even if they are educated and doing everything, precautions still fail. So stop shaming strangers on the internet when you don’t know them or their lives. It’s pathetic

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Anonymous #54 10h

You can literally get pregnant if you had diarrhea shortly after taking your pill. It’s so ridiculously easy for the common contraceptions to fail.

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Anonymous #30 10h

wow thats so weird! its been 2 hours but you were completely incapable of finding any examples of me telling you women what you should do with your bodies!!! and you were replying so quickly before, i wonder what happened!! like damn

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Anonymous #30 10h

That’s deadass how my mom got pregnant with me, was on bc, used a condom, did all the things. Was finishing up the last bit of her antibiotics and BAM here I was 9 months later. And even though she loves me and said she doesn’t regret her decision, I know she grieves who she could’ve been. I know she wants a different life for me.

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Anonymous #45 10h

Tbh I just didn’t care to argue anymore with a man who probably has a light up keyboard. Your opinion on women’s bodies is so stupid. Not to mention it’s so misogynistic for you to think that the responsibility should be on women because “it’ll affect women less”. Your whole argument is contradicting itself. You’re claiming that you’re not telling women to be on birth control while claiming it’s affect them less. Thus you’re suggesting it should be a female responsibility

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Anonymous #45 10h

The fact you’re only focusing on the one thing they got wrong and nothing else is quite telling 😭 literally BEGGING for them to come back and argue with you like bruh 😭😭also gtfo this is girl group and genuinely has rules on men commenting dumbass

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Anonymous #30 10h

wrong!! if you refer to my FIRST FUCKING COMMENT youll find the only thing i attacked was the intuitiveness behind the idea that women would be affected less!! like cmon, i never said bc effects women less, cuz no one fucking knows whether it does or not cuz there isnt a bc for men why would anyone ever argue rhe hypothetical effects of a male bc??? also you still havent shown where i told women what to do with their bodies, if u wanna apologize for misrepresenting me id be thankful🙏

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Anonymous #45 10h

There is BC for men tho…

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Anonymous #44 10h

“focusing on the one thing they got wrong” every other thing they bring up is something i wasnt arguing against and probably agree with you people are so mad youre like incapable of reading what im saying for what it is

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Anonymous #45 10h

and yeah maybe i will beg for them to come back when theyre really gonna sit here and make baseless claims abt me and then just leave 😭😭 like fuck you tf i never told anyone what to do with their bodies and yeah i kinda want them to acknowledge that

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Anonymous #52 10h

a hormonal contraceptive specifically

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Anonymous #45 10h

Right here you’re claiming that it’d affect men less. Which btw it actually doesn’t, you keep making testosterone, a lot of the male birth controls in studies just affect sperm. However, for women it “just affecting our cycle” affects a lot. A lot of them cause heavier periods, bad depression, etc. but regardless, by saying it’d affect men less you’re making it seem like it should be a female responsibility because you’re too arrogant to even learn about the male bc that are being created

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Anonymous #45 10h

There literally is one. Was on the market for about a year. Until it “gave them headaches” working its way back onto the market rn. Wanna know the worst side effects for women’s birth control?

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Anonymous #30 10h

Literally the other one besides the sunscreen like jell is simply a temporary vasectomy where they block the same tubes they cut. And it goes away on its own after a few years

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Anonymous #45 10h

Oh my gooood you’re so emotional

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Anonymous #44 10h

“you dont like people calling you a misogynist anf slandering you, youre emotional” youre sick and lack empathy, grow up

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Anonymous #30 10h

peep the part of the message u mightve missed

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Anonymous #45 10h

Uhuh let it allll out hun

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Anonymous #45 10h

Here’s the thing, if you’re uneducated on something why comment? Majority of your statement is saying that it should be women’s responsibility bottom line. And if you’re uneducated about something do research instead of arguing with women on a women’s form and then getting mad when they call you out.

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simple answer: not everyone believes that and not everyone wants to wait

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Anonymous #14 10h

as someone who had an abortion, cry about it. i didn’t want my 🍇ist baby in me

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Anonymous #44 10h

🙌wtv twin

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Anonymous #45 10h

Also if you’re uneducated and your tone was asking why instead of making false assumptions it would’ve been completely different. But instead you made false assumptions and don’t know when you’re wrong. Anyways goodnight lil bro

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Anonymous #30 10h

fair! (to only the first sentence) i was just tryna make a lil pass at the intuitiveness of the idea that men deserve the burden. never said it should be womens responsibility bottom line just didnt like the idea it should intuitively be mens responsibility because theyre fertile all the time. i can assure you i only got mad when yall starting making shit up lmao

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Anonymous #30 10h

I like how they said whatever then keep commenting like why don’t they just block you and move on with their life 😭

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Anonymous #44 10h

im addicted to arguing with people who are bad at arguing its my greatest flaw

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Anonymous #30 9h

if your tone was just coming from a place of education and you didnt constantly misrepresent me then this wouldve been over in 5 minutes! u have a gn too

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Anonymous #52 9h

NES/T has never been on the market before and got fda approval because it encountered hurdles during phase 3 clinical trials due to lack of funding, not because of headaches. the lack of funding however was in part due to the deeply entrenched idea that bc should be womens responsibility just because it has been for so long and funders were worried not a large enough population would be willing to rely on a male bc

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Anonymous #45 9h

if ur talking about the 2011 injectable one thats also never been on the market and encountered issues during phase 2 due to the frequency of adverse effects, which included more stuff than just headaches

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Anonymous #45 9h

but to your point, yeah, before researching all this i didnt know the bc being tested for men was hormonal, so my claim “no one knows what it does to guys” is wrong to an extent (in that we know most side effects not all (since its never completed all trials)) but that wasnt really my point, i only said that to try and explain how absurd what they thought i was arguing was, my main argument was never that bc has been proven to effect men worse

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Anonymous #45 9h

i just thought the idea that men should carry the responsibility of bc cuz theyre fertile for longer was silly

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Anonymous #45 9h

I mean I personally think men should carry the weight of it bc a woman can only have 2 children a year (not counting twins and shit) yet a man can literally have hundreds of

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Anonymous #45 9h

Honestly I’m proud of you for doing research. I was talking about Vasalgel which is still getting tested. But the huge thing is, the reason they don’t think there’s a demand on male birth control is because men make false assumptions like you did, and think it’ll affect them worse than it does women.And the reason a lot of people argue that it should be a male burden is because I know guys who have multiple baby mamas in a year. You don’t see a lot of women having multiple baby daddies in a year

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Anonymous #52 9h

i dont think women should bear the brunt, but i also dont think the greater reproductive capacity men have automatically implies a greater moral obligation to take bc. Actually, interesting idea i just came up with, wanting men to bear the brunt is just a dangerous idea, what happens when a malicious man chooses not to take it for a couple days just to get a girl pregnant and ruin her life for however long, like its lwk safer for women that its in their hands, idk, if im geeking lmk

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Anonymous #45 9h

Men already do that. They put little holes in condoms or pull them off during sex so the girl doesn’t know all the time

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Anonymous #45 9h

I mean men get baby trapped. I think that whole thing goes both ways. But I know I would feel better if my bf also took birth control, just to increase our chances of preventing pregnancy. I think if you’re in a trusting relationship it shouldn’t be an issue. Not only that, some women cannot be on contraceptives for whatever reason and it’d be nice to give couples a different option

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Anonymous #30 9h

thanks for the credit, this has been a real shit show but im glad i can walk away more educated. if you genuinely think that theres less of a demand cuz of that then, thats prolly fair and partially myb

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Anonymous #30 9h

totally true, in rhe context of a safe and loving relationship i think men taking some of the responsibility would be great and id totally advocate for that

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Anonymous #45 9h

It’s apart of the reason i was so frustrated. It’s because although you may think your initial comment was harmless, it does spread false information or at least ideas. And so one person walks away with this idea and gives it to someone else and it continues to spread. But if you change the narrative to this is something we need and would be beneficial then it’s more likely to become reality.

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Anonymous #30 8h

fair, ill refrain from challenging intuition again like that ig, didnt realize the harm arguing abt the logicality of assumptions could have when those assumptions im backing up could actually cause harm, silly thing to do tbh weird discussion to start on my part…

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Anonymous #53 8h

girl shut up??😭😭

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Anonymous #58 7h

Yknow pregnancy can happen even with a condom that looks normal and BC

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Anonymous #37 1h

Is the argument that, not only do you want full access to abortions, you also want them to be on someone else’s dime too? Interesting.

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Anonymous #45 57m

45 I just read this entire thread and I respect how you’re going about your point here. GL soldier 🫡

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Anonymous #12 52m

You smell like toenails and failure

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