Anonymous #1 6d

“hurtful things” when it was just talking abt the man’s politics. republicans acting like we’re mourning the man and not his shitty rhetoric… no one gaf about Kirk except his family, and y’all are just weaponizing his death to hate on minorities. that’s more disrespect than any I’ve seen from the left.

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Anonymous #2 6d

Yeahhh that’s not what I’m talking about it and you know it. This is a conversation about people saying he deserved to die and sharing inappropriate images or jokes. I’m talking about the people who threatened his wife and told her she should be next. Or the people who said it wasn’t enough and more people like Charlie should also die. Plenty of ppl care about this tragedy deeply and I’m sorry that just bc YOU don’t care you can’t see how disrespectful & disgusting ppl are being.

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Anonymous #1 6d

1. In the past few days, I’ve seen over half a dozen different people say George Floyd deserved to die because he was a fent addict (they explicitly did not say he died because of fent, they said he deserved to die). 2. I’ve seen republicans show inappropriate images and make jokes almost every time a leftist politician/figure died. 3. You don’t respect Kirk’s death, either. You’re dehumanizing him and boiling him down to his rhetoric while having the gall to take the moral high ground. shame.

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Anonymous #2 6d

First, don’t tell me what I do or don’t respect. I’m mourning the loss of a young, ambitious human being who died for no reason just like other victims of gun violence. Also, why is ok or any better for liberals to act this way with Kirk if it was so wrong for republicans in prior scenarios? I’m not speaking for everyone here, I’m speaking for myself & in any tragedy like this, these remarks are disgusting. Period. If you can’t say something nice, move along with your life. Why is that so hard?

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Anonymous #2 6d

At the most basic level, regardless of outside factors or opinions, you should as one human to another be able to agree that KILLING an innocent person is wrong. Full stop. I would never and have never said that an innocent person deserved to die just bc of my views and opinions. Murder or violence is not the answer or the way to confront someone we don’t like or see eye to eye with. Especially with someone who built his political presence on the importance of starting and having conversations.

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Anonymous #1 6d

literally no one in this thread has said that so idk what you’re yelling at us for. chill out for 5 seconds not everything has to be a fight

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Anonymous #2 6d

Also if anyone is dehumanizing him it’s the ppl who are literally treating him like nothing and trying to make fun of his MURDER instead of seeing him as an actual human being that lost his life to senseless violence. Why is it so hard to just say hey murder is bad - end of sentence. Nobody is forcing you to mourn or praise him. If you disagree with what he said, fine but there’s no point in stooping below basic human decency.

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Anonymous #1 6d

there’s an EXTREMELY small percentage of people mourning his death. the majority of the left hate him and are not mourning his death, but do not believe he should have died. take a step back and look at reality instead of getting rage baited by a small percentage of people

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Anonymous OP 6d

You literally just basically said “well republicans make fun of dead democrats all the time” ok so two wrongs don’t make a right… but this post addresses another problem: This isn’t a fight. This is a debate. It might get passionate but it’s not a fight. This is no different than what Charlie was doing on campuses. He was hashing it out and just sharing his opinions. He never forced ppl to agree with him but he spoke passionately about his beliefs and allowed his audience to do so as well.

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Anonymous OP 6d

You seem to forget how the last election turned out if you think that leaves a small percentage of ppl mourning… But it’s ok bc I am sure that your media & your timelines are catered to your beliefs and that is what you see and therefore believe. I urge you to just look outside your bubble and see that this is a much larger event than you may think that will likely have long term effects & it has left ppl on both sides having conversations (whether or not you’ve been a witness to them).

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Anonymous OP 6d

All I am asking for from this conversation is the reciprocity of respect and human decency between ppl on this planet. Just bc someone doesn’t agree with you or has different beliefs than you doesn’t mean they should die or be subject to violence. Someone disagreeing with you isn’t going to make the world stop spinning. You are bound to find some difference in opinion with EVERYONE AND ANYONE you meet. It’s a part of life and it shouldn’t be the reason that someone loses theirs.

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Anonymous #1 6d

not justifying it, but it should be mentioned that Kirk didn’t just disagree. he dedicated his life to convincing others of a viewpoint that many consider inherently violent. he was also personally recognized by the current president as a big part of why he got in office, and thus is partly responsible for Trump’s policies which endanger the lives of thousands.

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Anonymous #1 6d

I literally did not say that ?? use your eyes

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Anonymous #1 6d

everyone I know that’s republican just stays in their little area. everyone I know that’s a democrat gets their news from multiple sources, travels, etc. do with that as you will

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Anonymous OP 6d

I feel you are now just backtracking on some of your words and statements and thus I feel as though it would be better to leave this at we can agree to disagree. There are many people on BOTH political sides who only consume media and news sources that cater to their beliefs. Again, just bc it’s your experience that ppl do one thing or another, doesn’t mean it is true for everyone. You are not an all knowing source of information. It’s just your perspective… your opinion.

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Anonymous #1 6d

omfg scroll up. I’m not even reading all that bc i genuinely never said that 🙄 go argue with the wall

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Anonymous OP 6d

I will leave you with this: if you come from a “party of love and tolerance” but cannot simply tolerate ppl who believe different things than you and cannot just respectfully leave ppl alone who are mourning and not attack or shame them while they do so, then it seems hypocritical for you to expect anyone else to feel compelled to tolerate you and your feelings. The road goes both ways. This is not all politics or social justice, this is just basic human decency.

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Anonymous #1 6d

girl idgaffffff you need to scroll up rn and see that I never said what you’re accusing me of. apologize or be like every single maga fake Christian out there 🤷‍♀️

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Anonymous OP 6d

Your words were “I’ve seen republicans show inappropriate images and MAKE JOKES almost every time a leftist politician/figure died”….. I’m assuming this is what you are referencing…

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Anonymous OP 6d

I’m also not MAGA or Christian. I’m a registered independent because I don’t let my beliefs and opinions be solely determined by or associated with one political party. My thoughts and opinions are more complex and on more of a spectrum between both.

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Anonymous #1 6d

no dumbass. I did not say that. send me a screenshot if you’re so sure

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Anonymous OP 6d

These were the words from a third responder. Regardless, the sentiment and the overall message remains true. I’m a big enough person to recognize that it was another commenter and not you, but I still stand in what I said regarding their words.

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Anonymous OP 6d

At the end of the day I’ve done what I wanted to do in voicing my thoughts and remained composed and civil in this conversation. I was never forceful and I was true to my beliefs. There is nothing wrong with having a difference of opinion and you should realize how lucky you are to have the chance to speak your mind like this because this isn’t a right that everyone on this earth has.

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Anonymous #1 6d

exactly. so I didn’t say it. you’re just making shit up as an excuse to be mad

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Anonymous #1 6d

I asked you like 3 times to check your sources and you didn’t bc I KNEW it was the other person. but you dug your feet in. that sums up the right for you

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Anonymous OP 6d

The point is, it was still said by SOMEONE who believed it. Regardless of WHO said it, my response is still relevant. Two wrongs STILL don’t make a right. I hope that you can come to a place where you can just read what I am writing without the first thing you are thinking is how to counteract or disagree with it. While we don’t have to agree, we are not perfect human beings and we can always stand to learn from eachother.

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