Anonymous lightpink_mushy 11w

It is done to conform to the same beauty standards that have been used to shame and oppress women. I don’t think it’s wrong for women to do, because they have been taught it’s what should be considered beautiful. But I don’t think it should be viewed as empowerment. It’s just further reinforcing those unrealistic beauty standards.

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Anonymous OP 11w

It isn’t inherently wrong to believe something is beautiful and wanting to look like that, as long as it’s your own opinion and not being done because of others opinion then people should do whatever they want with their bodies. Beauty is so subjective.

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Anonymous lightpink_mushy 11w

That is true, and I suppose there could be exceptions to it. But the majority of people who get these procedures get things like a smaller nose, because they’ve been told their large nose is ugly their whole life. Again, not their fault for feeling that way. But it doesn’t change the fact that they’re being pushed to conform to an unrealistic standard for themselves.

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Anonymous lightpink_mushy 11w

I don’t think it is inherently “wrong” but I think it’s silly to act like it’s a feminist gesture, as some people present it.

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Anonymous OP 11w

OR it could just be that that’s their preference? They think a slimmer nose is cuter, so they do it, oh well. Doesn’t harm me at all what someone else does to their body, they’re the only one that has to live with it. I choose to give a benefit of the doubt that they are doing it for themselves and not for others.

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Anonymous OP 11w

To that regard I think do g what you want because you want to do it is feminist. Being your own person and writing your own story etc.

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Anonymous lightpink_mushy 11w

Then I disagree with you in that regard, because your actions do not exist in a vacuum. You absolutely have the right to make any decision you like, but that doesn’t mean every choice you make is inherently feminist. And not every choice has to be.

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Anonymous OP 11w

I guess I don’t understand how, if you choose to do something for YOU and the benefit of YOURSELF then that’s feminism to me, as long as it is t having a negative effect on others* You wanna be a Dr and never marry? Cool. Feminist. You wanna be a trophy wife? Cool. Feminist. You wanna be a traditional stay at home mom who lives on a farm? Cool. Feminist. Key words are doing what YOU WANT and what makes YOU happy. As I said as long as it doesn’t negatively impact others and heightens your life

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Anonymous lightpink_mushy 11w

You definitely follow choice feminism. Which I think you have good intentions with, but it is problematic as it kinda ignores the larger oppressive forces against women in the sense that “any choice a woman makes is a good one just because she’s a woman”.

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Anonymous OP 11w

I’m saying any choice a woman makes that positively impacts her and does not in a way negatively impact another is inherently good, would you classify that as the same thing?

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Anonymous lightpink_mushy 11w

Sure, that still doesn’t mean it’s feminist. It can be a valid choice and not do anything to challenge oppressive forces against women. That’s what feminism is really about. And it is why I dislike the concept of choice feminism, which I think you should look into further to see how it can be problematic.

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Anonymous OP 11w

What’s your definition of feminism?

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Anonymous lightpink_mushy 11w

Like I said feminism is meant to challenge and hopefully eliminate oppressive forces against women.

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