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It’s so insanely misogynistic to say “trans women have a more beautiful understanding of what womanhood is” & “your womanhood is not your ability to be sexually assaulted”.
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Anonymous 7w

hi i want to offer a different perspective as someone who did sit thru that entire conversation and not just the one viral clip!! when er made those comments it was in the context of TERFS using trans panic as a way to exclude trans women from the sphere of womanhood. the comment about sa, without context, is entirely out of left field and not needed at all!! but the entire message that was being conveyed was that trans women are not men dressing up in costumes trying to hunt women

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Anonymous 7w

Oh no, not the trans panic being brought to girl talk

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Anonymous 7w

how are you gonna put trans women on this like weird pedestal and then turn around and say some transphobic shit that erases the very prevalent problem of trans women being sexually assaulted. reminds me a lot of the whole “divine femininity” thing that pretends to be very pro woman while still spreading misogynistic ideas about how women are naturally emotional and nurturing and it’s just in our soul or some shit

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Anonymous 7w

Wait who said that

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Anonymous 7w

What??

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Anonymous 7w

And you said what you said!

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Anonymous 7w

no like it’s actually such a disgusting thing to say that someone who has never and will never experience womanhood has a more beautiful understanding of it than someone who has

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 7w

er fightmaster on drew afualo’s podcast. she also agreed with them and is not mass blocking people for disagreeing with them

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 7w

*IS mass blocking people omg

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 7w

Yeah like it just doesnt work if youre trying to be pro trans women and are still on some gender essentialism bullshit

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Anonymous 7w

I agree. I’d go as far to argue that our ability to be sexually assaulted is part of us understanding womanhood. It’s a hard hollowing fact of women’s existence on this planet. The statistics of the sexual violence against women are staggering. Globally about 1/3 women are sexually assaulted in their lifetime. There are over 230 million women alive today that have undergone genitalia mutilation. 2020-24 had 1.1 million victims of domestic violence (US) w/ nearly 75% of the victims being female.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 7w

SA is embedded in our womanhood. We cannot escape it. It has been looming over our heads since birth. And we live our lives with that shadow till the day we die. Just look at our history.

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Anonymous 7w

That makes alot of sense. I def see what you’re saying and I agree it was classless.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 7w

I guess I just see SA as something we as women are just expected to figure out or dare I say even tolerate because of how normalized violence against us is. Growing up in a world that sees us as objects, baby makers, a sex hole leaves a pretty deep impression. It’s everywhere, what we eat, wear, where we avoid, it’s the men who yell vulgar things as we pass, it’s the warnings older women give us. It’s the way we learn to be smaller, quieter, prettier, and more agreeable.

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 7w

Theres always been terfs on here :( i thought this was anti being weird ab trans women tho ig i dont have the context of the person but ive been hearing they were being transphobic

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 7w

No, this whole smear campaign was started by a conservative that took a year old podcast clip out of context to target the trans community. Drew afaulo and er fightmaster were being trans inclusive and tried to talk about trans women in a positive light and all the cis women took it as a personal attack

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 7w

Oh of fucking course

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 7w

The SA comment was still not warranted

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 7w

Nah I agree with the point they were making. And that comment was specifically regarding the trans panic of cis women being afraid of being raped in the bathroom by trans women

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 7w

how is the context any better for saying something like that 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 7w

How is it not? She was referring to transphobic cis women weaponizing the trans panic?

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Anonymous 7w

Yeah that’s literally exactly what they were arguing. So you agree with them

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 7w

Transphobe be gone

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 7w

your feelings don’t outweigh facts

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 7w

MAGA be like

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 7w

Many trans women experience a more traditional womanhood than many cis women They have many of the same struggles in society that we do

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 7w

😬😬😬😬. Yeah too far. I disagree with what they said but trans women are still women. Sure they experience a different womanhood than us but I experience a different one than you so why tf does it matter. No one experiences the same womanhood. You can disagree with the take and not be a terf

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 7w

that’s hilarious

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 7w

down like animals. they’re people who go through an entirely different journey of womanhood and on that journey, given they are in a safe environment, they are not overly or entirely concerned about doing or going through to oppression that was suddenly being mass reported on like womens bathrooms and sports. they did not mean more beautiful as a quantitative statement when comparing the two experiences of womanhood that trans and cis women experience, just highlighting the beauty of trans women

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