die dumb bitch <3

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Anonymous #7 21h

cmon. just put yourself in the place of the woman abused by the Cornell 7. she initially appeared to be in denial, herself. imagine the courage required to relitigate that in court 2 years later, knowing very well the amount of trite “you were asking for it” or “you’re lying” or “I bet you enjoyed it” comments you’re about to take on for the mere potential for justice. it’s just a lot to ask of a victim

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Anonymous #8 20h

It isn’t. Don’t get emotional and do something to punish those who wronged you. Or else they will get off free.

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Anonymous #8 20h

Cmon. They’re cops and the case is still being investigated by the cops and prosecution. The college was a separate institution and even they are not done with giving out said punishments and finding guilty parties I mean the case is being handled.

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Anonymous #9 20h

I am lucky enough to not personally call myself a victim, but I saw my sister’s life spiral downward as she struggled to cope with what had been done to her. I would love nothing more than to see the monster that’s caused her so much pain rot behind bars for the rest of time, or worse. She just wants to move on, and I refuse to impose some moral obligation on her to seek justice, especially with how little our justice system cares to address crimes that disproportionately effect women.

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Anonymous #7 20h

And that’s awesome. How many campus assaults don’t get the luxury of national outrage? Almost all of them. I applaud the victims willing to seek their own justice and deeply admire their courage. I am not comfortable with putting-down those women that aren’t willing to recount their trauma under the intense scrutiny of a courtroom. Seems more than understandable.

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Anonymous #9 20h

i spoke of what happened to me and nothing happened… it’s not as easy as to “tell a cop” when we do nothing happens or this get a “punishment” like for an example write an essay. please.

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Anonymous #9 20h

i compromised my studies to go through the whole time- and labor-intensive process of providing everything the cops asked. they did absolutely nothing in the end except make the perp aware he was being investigated and thusly put me in an unsafe situation.

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Anonymous #9 20h

also telling someone who has had the most emotionally exploitative act that can ever happen to anyone ‘don’t get emotional’ shows a concerning lack of sympathy for/understanding of the topic. please take a gender studies class or spend some time listening to survivors for your own benefit if no one else’s.

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Anonymous #8 20h

Then by that logic don’t expect judgment to be passed.

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Anonymous #7 20h

As sad a state of affairs it may be, I generally don’t expect judgment to be passed. I would love to see it, but rarely do in-practice, and thus my primary concern is and always will be the well-being of the victim themselves. Not the catharsis of the onlooking masses. If a friend of mine wishes to go to court/the admin, I’ll support them every step of the way. The conversation does NOT start with me telling them what they “should” do. That would be fucking ridiculous.

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Anonymous #7 20h

the conversation wasn’t about expecting judgement to be passed. proper judgement is usually not passed even in cases with a ‘perfect victim’ who follows everything they’re ‘supposed’ to do to a t and had a repeat offender jump out of a bush and violently grab them. but the real world doesn’t work in absolutes like that, and cases like this are incredibly difficult to prove, even with dna evidence.

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Anonymous #11 18h

Brother. How lonely was your childhood? You’ve got a tatertot algorithm & you’re trolling on Girl Talk. Go to therapy. Stop making your relational trauma everyone else’s problem.

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Anonymous #13 18h

I’m just addressing the whole elephant and trying to to let everyone understand the whole story

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Anonymous #11 17h

there are two finite possibilities here: (1) you don’t know the whole story and have no business talking (2) you were there the whole time, understood what was going on, let it happen, and have no business talking

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Anonymous #2 16h

None of us know the entire story but tons of people are leaving out important details

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Anonymous #11 16h

you don’t need to know every detail of a stranger’s assault to be sorry that happened to someone under any circumstances? are you new to this planet? this person is looking for emotional support, not a criminal conviction

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Anonymous #11 15h

Answer the question if you aren’t a bot.

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Anonymous #2 15h

Don’t bother explaining anything to it. It’s either a bot or an underdeveloped, traumatized male. Either way, it’s programmed to be incurious, & it doesn’t have the capacity for/interest in human empathy.

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Anonymous #11 14h

Hey dumbass, NO one can consent while intoxicated. Do you hear yourself or are you purposely dense??

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Anonymous #11 10h

It is incredibly easy to know when someone is blacked out. Taking someone to your room when they're stumbling and slurring- that's taking advantage of someone

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Anonymous #9 9h

why wouldn't she pursue punishments for the men who drugged and violently gang raped her? tf is wrong with you? you're acting like going to the law is some sort of unreasonable retribution that warrants dismissal. they drugged and gang raped her and there's hard evidence. what else do you want from survivors you sick fvck? you are a filthy rape apologist, which is only marginally better than being a rapist

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Anonymous #2 9h

Yeah I had a girl that stalked me in college and she saw me get SA at a bar and turned around and claimed I was lying bc I had a bf. Like no I was shitfaced someone shoved their hand up my skirt, and I’m still with my man. I filed a Title IX on her and the kid that SA’d me. FAFO

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Anonymous #7 9h

Well of course I considered that. I had a rape kit done and everything... but why would I trust law enforcement in this day and age?

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Anonymous #7 8h

You do understand that cops barely do shit about it bc they don’t believe the victims and sometimes will shame them, right?

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Anonymous #11 8h

If your drunk that’s not consent and it’s still not your fault bc they should know better than to take advantage of a drunk person who cannot give consent

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Anonymous #2 8h

I didn’t say we have to know all the details. I said lots of people are leaving out IMPORTANT details

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Anonymous #13 8h

I’m neither

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Anonymous #15 7h

Buddy, It's confirmed that the women used alcohol and drugs. She wasn't forced and she consented with multiple guys to have sex

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Anonymous #21 7h

It’s partially her fault cause she chose to use drugs and alcohol. And agreed to sleep with multiple men (not all 7). She wasn’t forced to do those specific things

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Anonymous #11 7h

you can’t be serious.

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Anonymous #11 7h

Answer the first question I asked if you’re not either

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Anonymous #11 7h

Who is the subject of the original post?

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Anonymous #11 7h

So first of all, this post isn't about Cornell. Second: 1. She consented to a threesome with a friend and another frat brother. The brother became ill and her friend left to sleep in the other room. The inclusion of more than the previously mentioned two men created a situation SHE DID NOT CONSENT TO. 2. She entered a state of "Vague consciousness" due to the amounts of Ketamine used, meaning she did not have the cognitive capacity to consent to such activities.

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Anonymous #2 7h

Well if they did it, they should be tried criminally. Why are we putting emotional support above punishing bad guys? Is this acknowledgment that you care more about Jane doe’s publicity than the evidence of original statement AND laws at play?

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Anonymous #11 7h

3. She ALSO did not, and COULD NOT, consent to being ADVERTISED as free pussy in a frat-chat. You are a disgusting rapist sympathizer.

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Anonymous #22 7h

This was in the statement did you skip past that part? According to the NY LAW both parties cannot be held criminally liable as both are incapable of consenting unless incapacitated. She also consented to a 3some, then said it was fun and they should smoke another day, even JOKED about the amount of other guys there.

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Anonymous #24 7h

im so sorry that happened to you 💗

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Anonymous #9 7h

Look, I legit went to court, testified, and WON my case, and I still didn’t get the justice I deserved. Riddle me that.

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Anonymous #19 6h

Well would you have rather done nothing?

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Anonymous #18 6h

Did you read what I said at all??? I replied to someone saying that it was a lot to ask of a victim, I said it wasn’t if you want them to be punished or at least somewhat deterred from doing it again to other people. Are you tarded or did you reply to the wrong person…

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Anonymous #9 5h

Prmy choice, not anyone else's. I trusted the system that simply protects the accused. Our CJ system doesn't have a lot of protections for victims and what is going on. We even went for a plea, which they turned into a jury trial. There were so many moments where I wanted to stop, but I didn't. My family still victim blames me to this day even with a verdict. It took away 3 years of my young adult life and I wouldn't wish what I went through on anyone, No woman asks 4 this

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Anonymous #7 5h

fat chance they believe us or do anything about it. i reported my sa to the authorities literal hours after it happened, hoping for a dna kit to be run so they could catch the man. instead, they basically told me 'yeah, right' and 'think of his future'. it's been two years and they haven't done anything.

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Anonymous #11 5h

none of this equals consent. even if this is what happened, a drunk yes is a no. you cannot consent under the influence

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Anonymous #18 4h

Because most of the time they do jack shit. You go through all that investigation for nothing, and in the end it can make you unsafer since the perp knows that you reported them

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Anonymous #9 4h

Deadass, 3 years of hell, intimidation, etc. Just for him to get 18 months of probation? Give me a fucking break. Does that sound like justice to you bc it doesn't to me.

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Anonymous #9 1h

Because victims need emotional support, we live in the most incarcerated country in the world, yet victims don’t get justice because our system protects the accused. It’s not as black-and-white as you make it out to be, and this is coming from a survivor, a witness to the state, and a CJ degree holder with a law path. The publicity part is secondary victimization; no victim wants to be put on blast so everyone can weigh in. I’m lucky mine wasn’t broadcast nationwide.

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