Anonymous #1 4w

Yeah but if we put it on a pie chart, animal agriculture would take up most of it if comparing only ai and animal agriculture effects on the environment

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Anonymous OP 4w

ok and ai is still in its infancy while animal husbandry has been practiced for millennia

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Anonymous #1 4w

Just because something has been practiced for so long doesnt automatically make it justified. Slavery has been practiced for millennia, does that mean slavery is suddenly okay?

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Anonymous #2 4w

Eating my labrador steak while reading this

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Anonymous #3 4w

Okay so what about the billions of people that CAN exclude animal products then?

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Anonymous OP 4w

Slide me some 🤤🤤🤤

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Anonymous OP 4w

<- my point you->

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Anonymous #1 4w

Okay whats your point then?

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Anonymous #2 4w

Im using chatgpt while reading this

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Anonymous OP 4w

animals have an outsize impact now because there has been time for them to have an impact. ai is new and we don’t know fully what the impacts will be

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Anonymous #1 4w

Okay that doesnt mean that we shouldnt address the impact of animal agriculture? And also you are incorrect; animal agriculture inherently is resource intensive and unsustainable, therefore having a negative impact on the environment

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Anonymous OP 4w

please see the original comment I left on your post

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Anonymous #1 4w

And actually you could argue that science could be developed to make ai more environmentally friendly bc of the fact that it is still new, whereas there have been no scientific developments that largely decrease all the negative effects from animal agriculture, despite it being an older practice

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Anonymous OP 4w

my point is that *both* animal agriculture and ai have negative environmental impacts and a true solution for climate change must address all aspects

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Anonymous #1 4w

Ofc, but nobody ever talks abt animal agriculture, in fact they vehemently defend it. Im pointing out this hypocrisy.

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Anonymous #1 4w

Do you not notice how nearly everyone is willing to accept and argue against using ai, but you never see anything said about animal agriculture’s effects on the environment?

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Anonymous OP 4w

not sure where you’ve been hanging out but I see tons of people talking about the negative effects that come from the amount of land and resources we spend on animals. it’s an extremely common talking point among people worried about environmentalism and climate change

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Anonymous #1 4w

Not really. Everywhere i look that has to do with environmentalism, lacks this topic. You already know why. Its bc the majority of the population arent plant based, so they dont want to bring attention to the harms they themselves are causing, in order to not feel like a hypocrite. Like i bet youre not even plant based.

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Anonymous #1 4w

Try it out for yourself. Make a post saying that animal agriculture is horrible for the environment and people should stop consuming animal products. You will get downvoted to hell bc people dont like hearing the truth

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Anonymous #1 4w

So if you are so well versed in this topic, and i assume you care about the environment, so why are you not plant based/vegan?

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Anonymous OP 4w

it’s interesting how you’ve been making all these assumptions about me. regardless, you have been interpreting my comments in bad faith so I will no longer be enhancing with you

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Anonymous #1 4w

10 bucks says op is actually a troll trying to make vegans look bad

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Anonymous #3 4w

very possible also I meant engaging not enhancing

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Anonymous #3 4w

Yall always say that abt vegans regardless. Yall just hate vegans bc yk we are right

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Anonymous OP 4w

Because you want humans to stop doing a very human thing, which is consuming meat, and that’s just absolutely ridiculous. You’re not going to stop people from doing that

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Anonymous #2 4w

You could say that about anything. War is a very human thing, does that mean we shouldnt aim to stop having wars?

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Anonymous #2 4w

All of yalls logic sucks so much ass when it comes to debating

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Anonymous #1 4w

Notice how you refuse to state whether u are plant based or not? Lmao. Also i can make such assumptions bc you sound like a carnist. You hate the fact that what i am saying is true. You all love to reflect your responsibility to other entities whenever you know you actually are engaging an even worse problem.

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Anonymous OP 4w

*dairy

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Anonymous OP 4w

Eating meat and war or completely incomparable I don’t even know why you said that

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Anonymous #1 4w

Its like freaking out about one drop of water being wasted, yet ignoring the buckets of water being wasted by the animal agriculture industry. Like clearly there is a bigger issue to focus on

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Anonymous #2 4w

Both are harming others? You do realize animals are being harmed in animal agriculture right?

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Anonymous #1 4w

Also lets not ignore the fact you and many others come to vegan posts to p much shut down whatever we say, by pointlessly arguing “we can care abt both” when i never said to not care abt AI’s effects on the environment. Funny huh.

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Anonymous #3 4w

All you nonvegans are stupid as fuck

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Anonymous #2 4w

Also im using your stupid ass logic for defending smth harmful. Your justification for continuing harming animals is that its in human nature. Okay well war is also apparently in human nature, does that mean its justified? Learn logic please

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Anonymous OP 4w

I have killed animals in multiple different settings both clinical and in a hunting setting. It is not the same as war

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Anonymous #2 4w

I never said its the same. Jesus fucking christ youre stupid as fuck.

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Anonymous #2 4w

Youre so proud to be an animal abuser ew

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Anonymous OP 4w

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Anonymous OP 4w

“you hate vegans” is such an odd take. my best friend is vegan, and i deeply admire their commitment and willingness to change their lifestyle for a cause they believe in. i wish i could be vegan! but i can’t without compromising my health and that’s true for a lot of people. we focus on ai because we lived without it for thousands of years. not using chatgpt is far easier than going vegan and is doable for pretty much everyone, unlike veganism.

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Anonymous #3 4w

Okay but not true for the entire fucking population? Those who cant go vegan are a minority. The majority of people are able to be vegan. But yes not using AI is easier. That doesnt discount the fact that animal agriculture is far worse and a far bigger problem than ai though.

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Anonymous #1 3w

Also the post i was quoting was acting like the only reason for global warming was ai which is obviously stupid. Why not say “problems can have more than one catalyst” to that post then? Its because you are a “current thing” activist, and only care abt ai bc thats the trendy thing to be against/care about. God forbid someone brings up another industry that is contributing far worse damage to the environment, bc you all support it and hate feeling guilty abt your contribution.

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Anonymous #3 3w

Also nobody said they both cant be true. You all lack critical thinking skills so fucking bad. Youre like worrying abt a fucking ant in the room when theres a fucking tiger in the room. Animal agriculture is far worse for the environment yet you all love to shut up those who bring it up bc you hate the fact that would mean youre inconsistent in your beliefs. “I only care abt the environment until it means i have to make lifestyle changes”

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Anonymous OP 3w

girl i’m not worrying about billions of people. i’m worried about what i can do and going vegan is not something i can do. plenty of non vegans, myself included, DO still try to limit our consumption of animal products. your all or nothing mindset is childish, helps no one, and is actually harmful because instead of encouraging people to do what they can you’re demonizing everyone who can’t commit to a 100% vegan lifestyle

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Anonymous OP 3w

you literally sound like a fascist caricature of a vegan and frankly i’m not convinced you aren’t

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Anonymous #3 3w

Why cant you go vegan?

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Anonymous #3 3w

Then why do you dumbfucks never speak up about animal agriculture? Youre all just a bunch of halfwits. If i couldnt go vegan, or hell if i became exvegan, i sure as hell wouldnt argue w vegans bc ik they are objectively correct.

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Anonymous #3 3w

I would argue in favor of veganism, so more people who can be vegan will go vegan and make the earth a better place. Not argue against it bc my ego and mental capacity arent damaged like yours.

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Anonymous OP 3w

not that it’s your business, but i already have a pretty restrictive diet due to food intolerances. if i went vegan, i’d be cutting out even more food and not getting proper nutrition, and/or would have to spend ridiculous amounts of money and energy to find/make vegan foods that also fit in my dietary restrictions

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Anonymous OP 3w

also i’m not arguing with vegans, i’m arguing with you, specifically your ridiculous claim that not being vegan means you’re a terrible person. i would never tell a vegan that they should eat animal products.

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Anonymous OP 3w

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Anonymous #3 3w

Tell me what is fascistic abt being for the liberation of all beings?

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Anonymous #3 3w

Yeah bc that would be stupid to do? And well supporting animal cruelty is wrong. And like i said being nonvegan or vegan isnt innate to your personhood like how ethnicity is. Just stop harming animals. Or stop defending the harming of animals if you somehow cant.

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Anonymous #3 3w

The mysterious disease strikes again! Wow for nonvegans claiming that veganism is so unhealthy, you all seem to have some debilitating medical condition that requires you to eat animals, funny as fuck

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Anonymous #1 3w

Youre a dumb bitch holy fuck. No actual arguments bc you know im right.

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Anonymous #1 3w

Like if you care abt ai’s impact on the environment so much, why are you not vegan? Its hypocritical.

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Anonymous OP 3w

girl. lets put on our thinking caps. i never said veganism is unhealthy. any restrictive diet makes it harder to get all the nutrients you need

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Anonymous OP 3w

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Anonymous #1 3w

Why are you not vegan, you dumb bitch? Youre just a “current thing” activist. You dont actually give a fuck abt the environment lmao. Just a sheeple following the herd. Must suck to be a dumbass like you. Whats it like having no critical thinking skills?

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Anonymous OP 3w

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