Anonymous #12 13w

ChatGPT is literally run by a multibillion dollar company but ok

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Anonymous #11 13w

because it uses water to cool their servers & lots of energy.. which every app does.. ppl see one thing and run with it instead of looking at the bigger picture. rlly no way to be ethical unless you just dont use your phone at all.

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Anonymous #16 13w

What insulin pump do you use

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Anonymous #8 13w

Tandem with control IQ

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Anonymous #11 13w

It requires a lot more energy to run an AI query than a Google search + the energy required to train the AI. There’s energy consumption included in running the calculations, but running the calculations also creates a lot of heat. Data centers have to be constantly cooled or else they’ll overheat and fail.

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Anonymous navy_dodo75 13w

I mean, you say that but I fear you don’t really know what a megawatt looks like. There’s five new AI data centers coming to my city that each have higher energy consumption than the Empire State Building. AI definitely isn’t the only thing that the average person is abusing and causing environmental detriment, but it also shouldn’t be discounted.

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Anonymous navy_dodo75 13w

people go out of their way to use chat gpt when they could just google. yea it’s probably impossible to avoid all ai unless you deleted every social media app ever, but chat gpt is useless. this mindset is harmful

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Anonymous #13 13w

In terms of a list of every single multibillion or even trillion dollar company, chatGPT is not really up there. Their emissions def do not HELP global warming but there are bigger fish to fry

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I understand their emissions def contribute, but global warming was a thing before chatGPT, I’m just confused as to why I’m suddently seeing 6 yikyak posts saying chatGPT is why the temp is 80 in October when temperature has been rapidly increasing since the 2000s

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Anonymous #18 13w

thats fair, but data centers power almost everything online, not just ai lol. + a lot of new ai centers are being built to run on renewable energy.. i would look into that! theyre definitely making steps in the right direction. im in no way supporting ai, but i dont think it’s fair to run a hate train on one platform when every big tech company contributes to that same issue! 😄

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Anyone with a brain who studies environmental science/meteorology/geology and actually pays attention would recognize the dangers of our current AI usage levels

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Anonymous #19 13w

so do ALL digital platforms. it isnt a harmful mindset at all, it's literally acknowledging that everything online has an environmental cost. chatgpt can actually REDUCE total resource use because it gives direct answers instead of people opening 20 different tabs. take that how you want 😄

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Anonymous navy_dodo75 13w

you still have to double & triple check chatGPT bc it’s known for citing sources that don’t even exist. if i have to look up all the sources on my own to make sure they’re real anyway, i might as well do my own research at that point. info literacy is dying, in no small part due to chatGPT

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It kind of is that simple, though? Having AI do your homework for you just means you’ll be fucked when you enter the real world. And it teaches you nothing. When you use AI and your peers aren’t, they’re getting valuable skills like problem solving and creativity that you’re missing out on. Not to mention its environmental impacts. AI seems like a great short term solution to a lot of students. But it’s all smoke and mirrors.

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I’ve gotten told by people to do injections to save the planet…

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Anonymous #16 13w

Fuck people your pancreas needs you girl

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Anonymous #12 13w

You’re right, it’s been an issue for longer than ChatGPT. We should all be doing everything we can to mitigate climate change. That includes everything from turning off lights to carpooling, to eating less meat, to using less AI.

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Anonymous #22 13w

And a serial killer is worse than someone who only murders one person

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Anonymous #13 13w

i dont believe that i ever said that chatgpt is 100% accurate? im saying that everything that we do online has an enviromental footprint.. chatgpt is just a tool.. how people use the tool affects their info literacy, not the tool itself. if people do not want to put in adequate research, that’s on them. it CAN be helpful if used correctly. also, i dont understand the point in bringing up ‘triple checking’ its information when that should be a standard practice regardless of the tool you use. 😄

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Anonymous #23 13w

What is your point? Because your rebuttal is pretty much bolstering my point if anything.

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Anonymous #26 13w

And the leading cause of death in birds isn’t even from renewable energy, it’s from collisions with windows and buildings, habitat loss, and also cats 😭

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Anonymous #24 13w

We’re talking about the disproportionately high carbon emissions associated with AI girl

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Anonymous #22 13w

Both murderers should still be in prison…my point is that both ai and ag are bad and we should care about BOTH

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Anonymous navy_dodo75 13w

I wasn’t talking about checking the info itself, that should be done regardless. but chat is literally known for “hallucinations” as in MADE UP sources that, if you try to look them up, do not even exist for you to verify

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Anonymous #13 13w

I can’t check a source for accuracy when the source itself isn’t real!!

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Anonymous #28 13w

I got downvoted bc I told the truth🤣🤣

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Anonymous #23 13w

Yes, yet nobody talks abt animal agriculture, not as much as AI gets talked about. Somehow criticizing animal agriculture is far more controversial than criticizing AI, when animal agriculture is objectively far worse for the environment. The majority of the population still financially supports animal agriculture every day too.

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Anonymous #22 13w

animal and crop agriculture contribute roughly equally to ghg emissions

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Anonymous #13 13w

Animal agriculture also includes crop farming for the animals so animal agriculture is still worse.

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Anonymous #18 13w

AI and data centers aren’t known for their high carbon output, they’re known for their high water and electrical usage. Over a century of gas powered engines has done far more damage than AI

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Anonymous #28 13w

The main point is that you could just not use AI to do the easiest stuff that requires like 0.1% of your brain power. Js because other diabolical companies are doing worse stuff doesn’t mean you should add on to the problems cuz it’s “not that bad” comparatively.

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Anonymous #22 13w

One is needed the other isn’t

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Anonymous #7 13w

Both arent needed. We arent obligate carnivores, hence why we can live on plant based diets. If we actually needed to consume animal products it would be a different story, but thankfully we dont.

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Anonymous #30 13w

Read the main post again🤦🏼‍♂️ The main point was that ChatGPT was making global warming worse. Compared to most companies out there, it’s not even a player in the board.

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Anonymous #22 13w

No, millions cannot actually medically switch to a plant based diet. I for one would literally die without meat

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Anonymous #22 13w

Fun fact, cows need water to produce milk. Even more of a fun fact, there isn’t any milk that you can buy at the store that isn’t watered down. Even nut milk, oat milk, coconut milk (which is really just water as is), and literally every kind of milk is at least %50 water.

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Anonymous #22 13w

We do need to consume animal products? There is an essential protein needed for homeostasis called Carnosine. No one ever wants to talk about it. It is required for human survival and it’s the main reason why a lot of vegans and vegetarian need to take a ton of supplements to still get all the nutrients they need. It’s only found in muscle tissue and organs. You cannot get it from a plant-based product. If you really don’t believe, look it up.

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Anonymous #28 13w

Also, for all you that might take it, Carnosine supplements are made form animal products! 😃😃

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Anonymous #7 13w

Where is your source for that statistic? How would you literally die without meat?

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No, but like i said animal agriculture also includes the crops that are grown to feed the animals. So without animal agriculture, we would reduce crop runoffs drastically bc we wouldnt need as many crops

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Anonymous #22 13w

You wouldn’t die, but you wouldn’t be healthy either.

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Anonymous #28 13w

Your body can naturally produce carnosine, with the right amino acids

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Anonymous #28 13w

Vegans are scientifically proven to be healthier than omnivores

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Anonymous #22 13w

It only produces the bare necessity to keep your brain alive. It doesn’t produce the required amount to keep you healthy.

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Anonymous #28 13w

Weird bc ive been vegan for 11 years and im healthier than most nonvegans, and so are many other vegans. Why do you guys always focus on the tiniest, most unimportant micronutrient to focus on? The end line is that you can live just fine on a plant based diet. Focus on people who are ACTUALLY unhealthy, which is the majority of the population bc they eat standard american diet consisting of fast foods and processed meats, being overweight, having heart and colon issues

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Anonymous #28 13w

Just do some basic research. Google is free bud

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Anonymous #28 13w

Also you can supplement with beta-alanine to produce carnosine

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Anonymous #22 13w

1) Carnosine isn’t an unimportant micronutrient. It’s required to maintain homeostasis which if you’ve had an anatomy lesson, is the bodies regulating process. 2) beta-alanine is derived from animal products or aspartate. I looked for a while and couldn’t find and aspartate beta alanine supplements. All of them were made from animal proteins. 3) I never once said processed meats aren’t a problem. I avoid processed meats and I’m perfectly healthy.

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Anonymous #22 13w

The best diet anyone can have is moderation and self control. If you don’t have either of those, you’ll never be healthy.

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Anonymous #22 13w

People need food to eat, people don't need ai to make grocery lists. The point of this is that collectively people have such a disregard for the very real and fast approaching threat of climate change.

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Anonymous #26 13w

Newsflash: animal products arent our only food source 🤯 And yes people shouldnt use ai for stupid shit. Why do you guys think its one or the other?

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Prove me wrong. Where are your sources?

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Anonymous #28 13w

That still doesnt matter because you can produce it yourself, just like how you synthesize vitamin D in your body

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Anonymous #22 13w

Did you not read what I said earlier? Your body does not produce enough to keep you healthy, just alive. Same with vitamin D, which is why things like season allergies and seasonal depression exist. Both have been linked to a vitamin D deficiency in the winter due to a lack of sunlight which is how your body gets the most vitamin D. You are using logical fallacies to try to prove your argument.

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Anonymous #24 13w

Do you know how we generate electricity

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Anonymous #18 13w

A combination of clean energy and fossil fuels. Regardless, the carbon emission output connected to AI is far less than that of gas vehicles

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Anonymous #28 13w

It can produce enough if you eat enough of the needed amino acids, and like i said u can supplement with beta alanine if you truly are worried

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Anonymous #28 13w

What logical fallacies? I never said you can produce vitamin d without sunlight? Obviously you need sunlight, sorry i thought everyone already knew that

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Anonymous #28 13w

“While not a dietary deficiency, this carnosine reduction can impact muscle fatigue and athletic performance, which can be addressed by supplementing with beta-alanine, a vegan-friendly precursor.” Aka it isnt health threatening, it’s only a minor nitpick, and only really applicable for those who wish to grow muscle more effectively. Show me proof that it is absolutely essential for life/health. You cant. Lmfao

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Anonymous #28 13w

That meant to be a reply to #22

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Anonymous #22 13w

I did, go look at the very last comment on the post. I forgot to click reply🤦🏼‍♂️

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Anonymous #28 13w

Its not the only thing used for that though is it. There are vegan beta alanine supplements lol, its just synthetic.

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Anonymous #28 13w

Literally just look up vegan beta alanine supplements. Also you still failed to prove that it is crucial to health to consume it from animal sources. Take the L

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Anonymous #22 13w

Take the L? Are we in middle school? I never said those were the only uses for carnosine, in fact I have been saying there are many uses for it, which is why it is essential for keeping a healthy body (especially in old age). Even after giving many examples of how it keeps your body healthy, I still haven’t proven it? How about this one? It’s the key component in muscle tissue and without it or a deficiency in it will lead to muscle fatigue and failure.

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Anonymous #22 13w

Supplements exist somewhere but that doesn’t mean it’s an improvement on the original source. Powered milk is an alternative to liquid milk, that doesn’t make it better. The original source still has more nutrients than some supplement. On top of that, a human shouldn’t have to talk a ton of vitamins and supplements to stay healthy and get the nutrients they need. Vegans and vegetarians have to.

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Anonymous #22 13w

Also hey, let’s bring in some more vital nutrients and vitamins for a healthy body that can’t be gotten in vegan diet without supplements. Omega-3, Vitamin B12, Iodine, and very low amounts of Vitamin D.

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