Anonymous #3 4d

sure. but to act as if those desires come out of nowhere isn't being intellectually honest

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Anonymous OP 4d

True in some cases, but not everyone watches porn, and not all porn is degrading to real people

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Anonymous #3 4d

No women are not real people with their own unique experiences. They only exist as the object of a man’s desire. Obviously

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Anonymous #1 4d

no need for the sarcasm.. im genuinely interested in having a conversation! i actually agree with you. women ARE individuals with their own preferences, but why so often do these 'unique' preferences consistently show up in porn, and so often involve men harming a woman

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Anonymous #4 3d

and practices of those within the kink community. not to mention this view of kink is entirely limited to the very heteronormative view of sex as a cis man and cis women having penetrative penis in vagina sex where the man is in some way dominant and the woman submissive. and ultimately rooted in the belief that having sex with a man is degrading or harmful for a woman and a woman could not possibly know what she wants and enjoy/want sex and not be any less of a person or degraded for it

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Anonymous #4 3d

thank u for taking the time to talk with me! i hear your point. but to act as if degrading acts done, (particularly to a woman) 'just happens' is not acknowledging the role played by pornography & societal norms. all i ask, is that why so often do "individual preferences" so closely align to pornography and reinforce patriarchy? is it not worth a deeper look? should we just ignore the real possibility that this could very well be conditioning women to sexualize their own subjugation?

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Anonymous #4 3d

women having sex with a man isnt inherently degrading. i dont believe that and i never stated such. i am just starting a conversation, asking why does heterosexual sex so often involve male violence/ degradation towards women? and why are we so quick to dismiss any deeper conversation about it? thats all

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Anonymous OP 3d

the deeper conversation you want to have based on your post is that porn/smut is inherently bad for you and if you have a kink that involves degradation there is something wrong with you. it’s just regurgitating purity culture talking points and putting a woke spin on it precisely to AVOID having a deeper conversation about kink and sex and sexual desire

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Anonymous #4 3d

i can criticize pornography and certain kinks without being on the side of purity culture. there are plenty of studies to back up the negative effects of porn use

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Anonymous #4 3d

https://extension.usu.edu/relationships/research/effects-of-pornography-on-relationships.pdf

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Anonymous #4 3d

its not intellectually fair to dismiss valid criticism against porn and some kinks as just "regurgitating purity culture". hell, I HAVE KINKS and im very much not a puritan. we should be open to having our beliefs challenged without blindly dismissing the other side

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Anonymous OP 3d

We all know the porn industry is predatory, but why are you also against people just having these kinks outside of a pornographic context? What kinks do you have that are supposedly fine compared to the nasty icky ones like being consensually degraded for sexual pleasure?

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