Anonymous #3 1w

that’s not the line between life and death tho. spreading hatred and violence, and fear through alt right propaganda, and helping to elect a racist pedophile through both your words, and lobbying efforts and not doing all that is the line between life and death in this instance

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Anonymous OP 1w

so anyone that spreads alt left propaganda we should kill right?

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Anonymous #6 1w

loaded question.

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Anonymous #7 1w

it’s not, the answer is no. NO ONE should be killed for what they believe in

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Anonymous #6 1w

this is strawman….. and a dictionary is for vocabulary so that wouldn’t really apply for evidence here….since you empathize so much, i hope you put this much of your energy into the children shot yesterday.

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Anonymous #6 1w

i don’t think you understand what a loaded question is. your making an assumption and claim and grasping at attempts to misconstrue what OP said and then asked a question in assumption of people “ deserving “ to get killed when that was stated no where.

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Anonymous #7 1w

i said a dictionary AND evidence not a dictionary FOR evidence… let’s read. at the end of the day NO ONE deserves to have their life taken at the hands of another person including the multiple children killed in school shootings and i 100% empathize with every single family that has ever been effected by a school shooting, fun fact i can empathize for more than one person

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Anonymous OP 1w

anyway, i blocked them because they are clearly an apologist but OP you have a point and it’s clear his army is offended because apparently you cant criticize people.

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Anonymous #2 1w

#context

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Anonymous #7 1w

yall act like we can't emphasize for multiple scenarios. we're not robots as yall are acting to be

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Anonymous #9 1w

Oh baby dm &’ I’ll send you link😉

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Anonymous #2 1w

oh baby i already posted a picture in this comment section😇

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Anonymous #6 1w

alt right propaganda is that we should take away peoples human rights and kill queer people. alt left propaganda is like you should join a union so idk you tell me the difference

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Anonymous OP 1w

bias statement.

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Anonymous #9 1w

you’re the person who thinks there’s a context that makes it ok to say you would force your 10 year old daughter to give birth if she was raped so idk why you think you have some kind of moral high ground

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Anonymous #9 1w

bby that image has nothing to do with what I said .

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Anonymous OP 1w

you can still feel bad for someone you died and not agree with everything they said that is being moral

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Anonymous #2 1w

😂 they really thought they did something.

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Anonymous #8 1w

all u have to do is search this man up and go through his socials it’s not something hidden or shocking

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Anonymous #9 1w

this actually furthers the point. that's a false equivalence. driving is a regulated public utility that requires and has licenses, insurance, speed limits, safety features, while guns have nowhere near the same universal safeguards. we reduced car deaths with regulation. also people don't get into car ACCIDENTS with the intent to kill like guns. "Gun deaths outpaced motor vehicle deaths in 35 states and the District of Columbia in 2022, the most recent year for which data is available."

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Anonymous #11 1w

literally, going so hard for someone that you have to ask for evidence because you’re unaware of their behavior is embarrassing. why would you support a person and stake your reputation to defend him when you don’t even understand the full story? it makes people look foolish.

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Anonymous #2 1w

even then, the debate you're talking about is even wrong. he didn't say he would force her to keep the baby??? he literally said the opposite of that. he said he would make her have the baby but it's not his decision to keep the baby in her life or not. as a CHRISTIAN man who follows the BIBLE, any follower of the Bible would give that response. are we gonna act like we didn't know he was a Believer?

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Anonymous #3 1w

Well said. Anyone on here that is okay with a 31 yo dying for his opinion is part of the cultural crisis we are experiencing.

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Anonymous OP 1w

my previous comment states what conversation was held during that debate. you guys just don't like to look into context

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Anonymous #5 1w

Good for him. Democrats wanted an invalid to be our next president. Half this country was okay with it. Smh.

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Anonymous #7 1w

luckily for you, motor vehicle accidents cannot be account for as suicidal motives or manslaughter motives, so they're all grouped into motor vehicle deaths. in 2022 there were also 44k motor vehicular deaths while there were 46k gun deaths. only 27k of gun deaths were account as suicidal. the total number of homocides with gun use was 19k. therefore, do the math it's not far off statistics in fact they're pretty close in numbers. we can also use the fact of drive bys which also have the use of

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Anonymous #7 1w

But you want empathy for your community as a qualifying basis for you to have basic human decency? Yeah I see you for what you are. It should bother you a 31 yo lost his life for his opinion in a country where we have protected free speech. Period. People like you are a symptom of the cultural crisis our country is in….me me me. What have you done for me.

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Anonymous #7 1w

a vehicle and gun use all in one. therefore both used with a motive. there's no false equivalence. there's just evil.

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Anonymous #9 1w

cars are designed to transport people. guns are designed to kill. pretending they’re the same is the actual false equivalence.

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Anonymous #12 1w

period. i have sympathy for the children, his children, the lady who lost her life on the bus, kirk's wife, the people losing their lives in Gaza whom i have spread awareness for using my socials, and i have sympathy for people like you who don't have feel sympathy for dangerous and disturbing situations. i don't care if he wouldn't even know who i am. he's a dead man who got his life taken in front of a crowd people who doing what he loved. that type of people are heartless and inhumane

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Anonymous #12 1w

you’re misrepresenting what I said. that’s a straw man. I never said empathy requires a qualifier, i said people can set healthy boundaries around who they empathize with. calling me selfish is just ad hominem, and framing Kirk’s death as ‘for his opinion’ is a red herring. not empathizing isn’t the same as celebrating. people don’t owe compassion to someone who never extended it. don’t engage a debate you can’t understand.

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Anonymous #7 1w

guns are used to serve and protect. the right to bear arms. the second amendment. the entire reason these arguments are happening in the first place. war is what caused the use of guns. and when the mentally ill obtain the use of guns, this is what happens and it causes a break out. damn near a war. you can act like reality doesn't happen and people are going to use what's not meant as a weapon as a weapon, but that's creating a false narrative. and even then, if guns were banned people would

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Anonymous #7 1w

still get their hands on them whether you like it or not. if they have a goal they're going to complete it. those with stricter gun laws have more gun use. make that make sense and come back me? i would rather have the chance to defend myself with my own gun rather than be left without defense in front of a gun man.

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Anonymous #9 1w

wow this really clicks it in. your support for Gaza while simultaneously feeling sympathy for a man who constantly has spoken badly about Palestinas calling it a “ nonexistent place”, and being in support of Israel, who had NO sympathy for those in Gaza? yeah….. i’m not gonna continue to engage conversation with someone playing the middle man. goodbye.

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Anonymous #12 1w

oooo i’m on a blocking spree. these people really want to try me

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Anonymous #6 1w

Tf is alt left propaganda lmao

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Anonymous #9 1w

Idk about you but he clearly meant “have the baby” as in carry it to term and birth, regardless of it being high risk pregnancy as the mother is underdeveloped, i don’t think anyone thought he means he’d make her raise it

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Anonymous #12 1w

People like you are a part of our cultural crisis, boo hooing over an influential white supremacist that promoted violence

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Anonymous #9 1w

lol blocked me bc you know you had nothing else to say. exactly

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Anonymous #7 1w

*Palestine

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Anonymous #9 1w

The bible doesn’t say a thing about abortion, stop using religion to justify your unrelated beliefs

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Anonymous #15 1w

jeremiah 1:5, psalm 139:13-19, genesis 1:26-27; 9:6. i've made my point

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Anonymous #9 1w

literally none of those are about abortion lmao, you’ve made MY point actually

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Anonymous #14 1w

Just so we’re clear im not at all condoning what he said or believed, the context is still cruel and doesn’t paint him in this “merciful Christian” light

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Anonymous #14 1w

That still doesn’t make it right, why would she want to carry a baby for 9months?? That would literally be trauma everyday for 9 months a constant reminder of how she got pregnant…

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Anonymous #2 1w

Im not saying it “makes it right” im saying the opposite actually, its extremely traumatizing at best and life threatening at worst

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Anonymous #14 1w

At the end of day it’s still wrong no matter what.

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Anonymous #2 1w

I think you replied to the wrong person

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Anonymous #2 1w

That’s literally what i said, reading comprehension is important

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Anonymous #15 1w

if you read and studied, you'd have every idea that killing God's creation is a sin so therefore it is about abortion just not that obvious. i apologize if using your mind a little bit and it's not directly in front of you makes you use your brain a little bit, but when you try to make arguments like this you're going to have to try at least!

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Anonymous #17 1w

Those are all synonyms for each other btw

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Anonymous #13 1w

Alt right would mean youre at least anti Israel. Neo nazi would mean youre at least anti Israel. He was not. You have no idea what you’re talking about

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Anonymous #17 1w

No, most of the alt right and neo Nazis support Israel. Bc either a) they believe in that weird evangelical rapture shit where the second coming of Christ will come if Jews are all killed once in Israel or b) bc they hate Muslims and Arabs more You have no idea what youre talking about. Zionism is white supremacy, genocide of a non-white population and settler colonialism. The alt right and Nazis love that shit

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Anonymous #13 1w

Those are regular evangelical conservatives dumbass how do you not know what Nazi means

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Anonymous #13 1w

Zionists do not consider themselves white they consider themselves JEWISH. What are you talking about. The alt right and nazis hate them lmao. You are genuinely crazy

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Anonymous #17 1w

Girl Nazi just means white supremacy + fascism. Which is what Zionism is. And anyone can be a Zionist, it’s not just Jewish people. You need to learn more about what whiteness is. And fact check yourself

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Anonymous #13 1w

Nazi means national socialist dumbass. Guess who Nazis don’t like? Jews. Guess what Zionism is in the interest of? Jews. You are actually crazy. Literally spend two seconds on Twitter lmao.

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Anonymous #17 1w

Like genuinely you must be old or just an idiot or a liar if you have no idea what you’re talking about at this point.

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Anonymous #17 1w

Wait… you think they were actually socialist? lmao. This is Fox News level delusion. They just adopted that name for mass support bc of how popular socialism was at the time. They were extremely anti-communist, that’s actually why they targeted the Jews. Their ideology isn’t inherently about Jews but about white supremacy and taking over Europe. Jews weren’t the only ppl targeted. All ppl that would threaten this idea of a fascist new Germany were targeted

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Anonymous #17 1w

the nazis were not socialists some of the first people killed by the nazis were communists and socialists for being political enemies of the nazi party

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Anonymous #17 1w

When it comes to Israelis vs Palestinians, Israelis represent whiteness in that dynamic bc whiteness is all about supremacy and hierarchy. And race is different depending on material reality, history and geopolitics. And it’s really not in the interest of Jews, they got the idea from white supremacist Christians. It’s most beneficial to powerful empires You’re just very misinformed. And that’s okay. But no need to be cocky about it

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Anonymous #13 1w

They didn’t get the idea from white supremacist Christians lmao the greater Israel idea, the Balfour agreement, all comes from Jewish people.

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Anonymous OP 1w

National socialist is literslly what Nazi means you idiot

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Anonymous #13 1w

Zionists who believe in Jewish supremacy do not get that form white suprmacists lmao. You’re crazy. It’s in their literal books. Non Jews are goyim, chattel, work horses to them. Thjs is not a white supremacy thing. You are lying.

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Anonymous #17 1w

Let me guess, you’re a Zionist and that’s why you’re so uncomfortable with the accurate conflations

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Anonymous #17 1w

and if i gave you a urinal cake would you eat it???? the nazis didn’t believe in the working class owning the means of production which is literally what the world socialist means. socialism was very popular back then and like all fascist movements the nazis piggybacked off real and legitimate concerns about the economy and social conditions to then blame a minority scapegoat to gain power and influence.

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Anonymous #13 1w

The literal exact opposite lmao dipshit i am not Zionist at all

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Anonymous OP 1w

Literslly who cares either way it’s a authoritarian freedomless govt omg

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Anonymous #17 1w

Why are you so defensive of it then

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Anonymous #13 1w

because he doesn’t actually know what any of these things are just that he’s supposed to be scared of them

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Anonymous #13 1w

Are you actually restarted I’m not at all

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Anonymous OP 1w

I’m anti Zionist you dumbass. You’re actually so stupid it hurts

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Anonymous #17 1w

You’re not making any sense to anybody

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Anonymous #13 1w

Low IQ.

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Anonymous #6 1w

alt left propaganda like "poor people deserve to have homes!" and "minorities shouldn't be killed on the streets!"

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Anonymous #12 1w

girl Biden wasn't running

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Anonymous #9 1w

So you have never killed a bug? Or brushed your teeth to kill bacteria? God created those too

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Anonymous #19 1w

actually i try my best not to. i literally tell everyone if they don't try to "that's God's creature, too" so wrong person to ask about even bugs. and as if biology doesn't exist either? get on with it

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Anonymous #18 1w

Yeah. It was something worse—a biracial woman!!!! Oh lord the horror!!! Who thought this was acceptable??? 12 is geeking

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Anonymous #9 1w

The way #9 is both the guy arguing against gun control b/c gun deaths are necessary to protect the 2nd amendment and we need guns so we can kill in defense of our rights, and also in another thread saying that killing god’s creation is a sin so abortion must be made illegal. Nine, please, listen to yourself. You’re smart enough to recognize this is hypocrisy. I will be so proud of you if you can admit that.

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Anonymous #15 1w

exodus 22:2-3. biblically we have the right to defend ourselves in the presence of a bad person. there's no hypocrisy here. the hypocrisy would be if i were to state this and not feel sympathy for gaza or the children. that is a form of gun violence i dont support, but i dont support the right of my second amendment to be taken away. as, nine, i know my rights and i know my sins. i know what im permitted and not. thank you, though, for trying.

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Anonymous #13 1w

CNN…although I have to say I have been impressed with their restraint this week.

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Anonymous #21 1w

just a reminder that the nazi regime functioned off the creation and perpetuation of prejudice towards marginalized groups that led to "justified persecution" as their cause, which is exactly what Kirk did with full intent. You should be mindful of that before yapping about how his hateful ideals were free speech. Educate yourself on the parallels between persecution of groups in today's climate and 1930s Germany.

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Anonymous #12 1w

What have they been saying that's alt left propaganda? I don't follow their news

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Anonymous #18 1w

They hate Trump. Nothing he does is successful, good, or warrants merit in any way. It doesn’t matter what it is. If he likes it. They hate it. If that’s all the news you watch this is as bad as the dark ages. Fox is Pollyanna…so you have to listen to both to decide what the heck is actually happening.

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Anonymous #18 1w

He wasn’t even a politician directing and impacting policy. He was just a commentator who gave his opinions. He didn’t seek out violence against the people he disagreed with. Why facilitate & encourage conversations if he had no respect for or wished harm against those he spoke to? It’s a matter of starting conversations versus silencing them. It seems you missed the point and I will once again say: maybe be mindful before throwing harsh terminology around and thinking that justifies something.

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Anonymous #21 1w

He didn’t engage in good faith debate. idk why people keep saying that. He didn’t encourage intelligent conversations for the purpose of learning and growing, what he did was bait unprepared people off the street into being filmed for owning-the-liberals cringe compilations. The point was get views, stoke outrage, garner engagement, make money, repeat. It’s a racket dozens of other ppl pull every day, he was not special for it.

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Anonymous #15 1w

1. He didn’t just talk to liberals… 2. I’d say some decent conversations came when someone who had done their research and had genuine knowledge in a topic came to discuss with him. It was also an opportunity for people to inquire on things they might not have known. Also, not for nothing, nobody was forcing or “baiting” people to converse with him. With how big his presence/reputation was, people knew who was on the other end of that mic and made a conscious decision to engage with him.

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Anonymous #15 1w

I want to stress that I personally didn’t agree with many things he said, however I can still recognize that undeserved violence is horrific and that anyone who excuses or celebrates actions like this ON EITHER SIDE is creating a harmful atmosphere and further widening the gap between different-minded people. I just want people to understand the bigger implications that actions like this could have going forward if we dismiss them.

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