Anonymous #1 6w

men claiming they want their loneliness to get better but refuse to do the things to make it better epidemic

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Anonymous #9 6w

I’ve had my group of friends since middle school for more context but please this gender war is not worth it! Spread positivity and just treat people how you want to be treated. Just because we are anonymous doesn’t mean you need to spread negativity.

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Anonymous #9 6w

This is why I want to leave the US. I went internationally this year. Was there for 3 weeks and they people there are notorious for wanting to be left alone. I still made friends and everything was beautiful. The layout of the city with third spaces and shit was better. Way less separation between men and women. People liked each other. Ahhh

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Anonymous #9 6w

i fear what you’re saying has nothing to do with her post. what she’s saying is correct based on how men behave and act in our society. telling someone to spread positivity while men are STILL at the frontlines of power while also degrading women is odd. they quite literally do it to themselves and then go and blame women for it when it’s not our fault.

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Anonymous #9 6w

This gender war isn’t worth it… but it’s impossible not to feel the need to protect by gender when ur constantly being targeted sexually or blamed for something that’s not your fault… men have the power to stop this and should.

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Anonymous OP 6w

this. men have the power to stop it and they don’t and probably never will because they thrive off a male validation whether it’s negative or positive.

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Anonymous #5 6w

Anyone has the power to stop it in their own lives it’s a mindset the people who actually have power in the world aren’t the men you talk about this world is run by the ultra wealthy those people have power to actually change the world but that’s another conversation. but if we are talking on a local level anyone has the power to spread positivity and say hi or spark a conversation. But when we focus on the negativity and insult people we lose what’s important in the conversation.

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Anonymous #9 6w

Everyone is just trying to get by and blaming anyone will not solve anything be more active and engaged in your community if you want to see a difference adding to the gender war will only harbor more negative feelings and nobody wind

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Anonymous #9 6w

Wins *

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Anonymous #9 6w

Umm when we get on the ideology of “male loneliness” we are talking about how much we hate male sexual advances and how they harass so much. And when I try to spread positivity, even more men try to corner me sooo. I need to make it damn clear that I’m not interested and I don’t give a shit about you.

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Anonymous #9 6w

she’s talking about the patriarchy. the patriarchy and the system of it was created by men… which was used to put women below us and it has been this way for centuries. stop trying to guilt trip people into thinking that they’re “too negative” when speaking on issues like this. men have killed women over a simple rejection because they can’t handle it and they know they have power over us generally speaking. and again who set that system up? men.

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Anonymous #9 6w

and men who are “lonely” are a result of their own actions. the reason why women want nothing to do with them is because of how men not only treat them, but the others around them. men also enable those around them to treat women badly because they think having emotions and speaking up makes them weak which is ALSO a result of a system THEY created. stop being dense on purpose.

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Anonymous #5 6w

The patriarchy is a completely different conversation male loneliness has to do with building genuine connections. And men’s mental health. Social media use age and overall masculine ideology. The patriarchy also affects men negatively and really only puts people who are ultra wealthy in a position in power. The patriarchy discourages male emotional expressions, vulnerability and pushes self sufficiency isolating men. The patriarchy was also constructed long before any of us were born.

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Anonymous #9 6w

Some people do blame women but these people generally don’t look at the bigger picture of how everything is interconnected however I do think the male loneliness epidemic stems from a lot of things not just one thing and communicating and understanding eachother and what we go through it’s important so that we can help eachother a lot of people are not willing to learn.

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Anonymous #9 6w

it’s not different. again you’re being dense on purpose. but again WHO SET THAT SYSTEM UP? quickly. the patriarchy does have to do with male loneliness but i’m not repeating myself for the 3rd or 4th time to you in a row. goodnight.

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Anonymous #9 6w

Im saying not to blame one side and to focus on the problem instead pointing fingers will not solve anything it’s running away from the problem and issues we face today

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Anonymous #9 6w

The people who set the system up were the ultra wealthy not your average man

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Anonymous #9 6w

You say men have the power to stop it but how then ? I’m pretty sure if we knew all the answers to solve this it would have been gone.

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Anonymous #9 6w

Then why is the average man obsessed with body counts and “getting pussy” it is absolutely the average man. Otherwise 4b , me2, “hating men” and other movements would be largely unnecessary!!

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Anonymous #9 6w

Maybe start by changing the culture within male social groups to not revolve around the sexual appeal and opportunities associated with women. There’s a group on many college campuses that do just this. They are called fraternities. And while not all frats revolve around sleeping with women (sometimes in an assaulting fashion), an alarming amount do. And these groups are largely seen as acceptable by culture!!

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Anonymous #9 6w

You are taking this way too literally. If both genders are equally lonely, why is it only important when men experience it?! And why does being nice to men often result in being talked down to and having to fight off sexual advances?!

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Anonymous #9 6w

Also men aren’t obsessed with “body counts or getting pussy” men are looking to create something, as a man we generally don’t want someone who is lustful for anyone we want to create a environment of love between two persons not one out of lust. And everyone men and women want to have a healthy sex life it’s all about balance. Yes there are people who are on the extremist side of things and it’s possible that these people are more frequently searching for this

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Anonymous #9 6w

Because they are seeking this more women inevitably will encounter this type of person a lot more but it still will be the same person not the “average man” this can skew the public’s perception of men which is what I believe is actually happening especially with social media these algorithms feed off of what catches the most attention and it’s usually the negative which incites the biggest emotional responses within humans as a species. But hate groups are never okay and don’t solve anything

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Anonymous #9 6w

Most men want sex bro idk where ur looking but def not at the majority… men aren’t fought self control and do everything at the expense of women in general. This is the issue.

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Anonymous OP 6w

Taught**

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Anonymous #9 6w

Im not saying it’s only important when men are involved either currently it’s happening to all of us creating a safe space for everyone is the goal

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Anonymous #9 6w

Exactly and having a strong make community is a huge starting point

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Anonymous OP 6w

Most men want a healthy sex life with a partner it might be true that men want sex more but this stereotype of men wanting sex all the time is not true.

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Anonymous #9 6w

Then why do men constantly ask me for sex. No context whatsoever and why do so many men have allegations? Why an o constantly being followed and harassed?

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Anonymous #9 6w

Your average man can completely control themselves. The majority of us do not “do everything at the expense of women in general”

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Anonymous #9 6w

There is no strong male community anywhere which is why people like Andrew Tate get pushed out and gets all the traction he does because there’s nothing else. And people believe him and people like him because of how they set up their podcasts etc with a demographic of women that is not the majority. Which is what happens In the same way to women being shown a demographic that’s not the majority causing these stereotypes

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Anonymous #9 6w

The thing is nobody is willing to save men from this type of “influence” or at least not many people on top of most ment not having an actual father figure in their lives growing up this makes it easier for younger men to fill this role with people that are prominent in male communities which is people like this and a lot of people don’t understand that.

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Anonymous #9 6w

If the Majority can than why is that not the experience of a large percentage of women

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Anonymous #9 6w

These are no stereotypes this is reality

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Anonymous #9 6w

Because most men on top suck and men don’t condemn these idiots

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Anonymous #9 6w

And why are you a man in a “girl talk” channel? You are weird for that…

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Anonymous #9 6w

The male community is ridden with toxic ideologies and young adults are being misguided as well because these people are famous and seemingly have everything they could ever want (money, power, and women). With all these you don’t have to worry about much and as young adults this is being fed to you as “the dream” but it’s a fake lie but there’s nothing else no other goal to strive for for the modern man. Economy is busted, everyone is lonely and doing things for yourself is often seen as selfis

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Anonymous #9 6w

i think it’s possible that you are also in a bit of a bubble with your views and the views of people you know. i have met many men in real life who are noncommittal and see women as sexual trophies. you’re so right that the stereotype that men want sex all the time is wrong, but many men use sex as a substitute for real intimacy. the average man can control themselves but… almost every woman i know has been sexually harassed or assaulted in some way. and it’s not like it’s the same man doing it

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Anonymous #9 6w

oh so you’re a man? get the fuck out immediately.

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Anonymous #1 6w

so if the average woman is made uncomfortable by a man at least once, generally several times… how is the average man not doing those things?

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Anonymous #9 6w

Men need to work together to fix this. The issue is that’s not sexually pleasing do they don’t. Men need to quit being sex and power addicts. Then boys will feel worthy and will grow up to be men who are actually useful to society

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Anonymous #9 6w

Selfish or pointless we don’t derive much dopamine from doing things for ourselves other than say working out, not to mention we are blasted with dopamine at all times as a society that nothing is going to reach that level. There’s a lot to unpack and it’s complex but creating a shift towards actual community is a step in the right direction but who is going to do that? When there are no safe spaces for men. It’s not easy to just create it needs to be able to gain traction and support from all

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Anonymous #9 6w

*so they don’t

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Anonymous #9 6w

no one cares GET OUT you’re a man

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Anonymous #9 6w

Stop complaining and create them then. Not just to you but to all men. Create safe spaces. Talk to each other.

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Anonymous #9 6w

you’re sitting here complaining about men and the way they treat women as you, a man, are coming in here, an all women’s forum, to complain about men to women. you’re literally the same person you keep talking about. argue with the wall.

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Anonymous #9 6w

you ask who’s going to do that if there are no safe spaces for men, which is why you need to create them. every oppressed group of people has fought to make their lives better in our society, especially when there was no support. men can do that too, and it might be hard but would be easier because men aren’t even oppressed. it starts small. if you aim for a big community you’ll always fall short. the change happens on a personal level. are you a safe space for your friends to go to with their

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Anonymous #5 6w

If men want to enter a female centrix space, they better be ready to blend in, act like a friend and not complain about women in derogatory or damaging ways.

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Anonymous #5 6w

*centric

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Anonymous #5 6w

This is exactly how men are treated in todays society we ask for help and are shut down nobody cares about men’s issues this constantly happens with just about everyone in a man’s life it’s up to men to be the change they want in themselves and because they did it themselves they urge the next generation to do the same, it’s a constant cycle. But I see I’m unwanted ✌🏼spread positivity

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Anonymous #1 6w

emotions? do you demonstrate vulnerability with your friends and others? that’s how community starts. make it better for those around you, that will make a difference.

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Anonymous #9 6w

Because when we help you, you stare at our crotches. Do you realize you create your own problem?! Asking women to help is stupid cuz we already tried YOU DIDNT LISTEN. YOU NEVER SHUT DOWN THE EGO AND LISTEN?!

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Anonymous #9 6w

unwanted here because this is a women’s only space. women do care about men’s issues, the problem is that MEN don’t care about other men yet women are constantly blamed for it which is OP’s entire point of her post. be fucking fr.

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Anonymous OP 6w

I’m also nonbinary so I’ve seen the insides of how male groups work. You guys harassed me and treated me like shit. The girls were always there. Girls constantly try to help guys. But honestly they don’t want to anymore because when they help you you harass them! You wonder why men struggle because men don’t listen to women or each other!!

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Anonymous #5 6w

Didnt hear my initial point this post is misguided and harbors hatred towards men and blames them for a patriarchy we didn’t create but were born into and blew up to a conversation about something bigger but it’s understandable to not want me here I didn’t know it was such a big deal but I wanted to say this for transparency. Now I will truly be leaving apologies good bye.

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Anonymous #9 6w

women are fighting to change the patriarchy though. are you?

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Anonymous #9 6w

again… you’re doing EXACTLY what OP is talking about in her post. if the patriarchy wasn’t created by men, women would hold more positions of power. don’t piss me off. go whine somewhere else and stop blaming women for your problems.

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