It’s the toxic “It’s the way I see it or you’re a fucking pedo who wants to poison kids” type of thinking MAGA fans have that rubs me the wrong way. I was reading some of their comments on Twitter the other night about Trumps new policies and it hurt my brain just trying to understand their way of thinking on all of this. It’s VERY concerning that there’s more people who thinks like that than in a “how can we all live together in peace” type of way. We humans overcomplicate things way too much.
At this point, if the MAGA fanatics cares so much about their kids being poisoned by things they consider abnormal at schools then home school them. Make a school program for them so they can have that option and the rest of us have the option to learn to live amongst each other in a new founded peace.
lol you wanna go over the million different ways the trump administration has attacked queer and especially trans people? it’s exhausting to be around you and hear you justify horrible things. I feel demeaned by being around you bc every time i see you i think of all the things you voted for and how they’ve hurt me and my friends
except they’re not a man. All the fucking scientific evidence in the world shows that transgender women pose no more threat than cis women do. Meanwhile they also show that not only are trans women MORE LIKELY than you to be victims of any crime—including sexual harassment and assault—they are much more likely to be assaulted by men in the men’s room
ok pls show me ur stats, because if ur including the population of countries who don’t have policies all across the board allowing trans people to use the bathroom for the gender they identify with (like America) then i don’t see how it could be accurate. you would truly have to look at county, city, and state policy to go through america
literally every case of it ever happening fits on one little page. They search case studies, crime reports, court documents in countries all over the world and this was all they could find. Ever. even if you only count the countries it happened in and not the entire world: so japan, uk, america, and canada that’s a per capita rate of 0.00053 per 100,000 per year. Meanwhile the per capita murder rate for trans women is 8 for every 100,000 per year
stats alone don’t always reflect the real situation. underreporting is common, and numbers don’t show how we feel. even if there are only 19 recorded cases worldwide, that doesn’t erase the discomfort and safety concerns many women experience. i live in the dc metro area so me and the people around me have to encounter this on the daily and it is so uncomfortabl
Nah I think it needs to be the other way around. We shouldn’t nor should we continue teaching the new generations to hate uniqueness and individuality. If your family is so stuck on old Ignorance and don’t want to grow with society then isolate yourself and go get homeschooled. The problem with MAGA people, yall hate change so much that yall want the rest of us to suffer and conform to yalls standards that only actually only works for a small group of people.
If yall wanna live in a world where things don’t change from what yall think “used to make America great” then create a bubble for yourselves (im sure yall had one made when Obama and Biden was in office) and stay in there. Moral of the story is keep the hate to yourselves cause the rest of us don’t want it nor do we need it.
why it so so much different when it’s race and not gender? You know how demeaning it is to treat people like monsters to disrespect their identities and reduce trans women down to “males incapable of resisting their male urges”? like not only are you demeaning trans women you’re also demeaning cis men and acting as if people are just slaves to their biology. if that were the case then feminism would be entirely pointless
What a very hypocritical statement. The Oompa Loompa in office is literally pushing yalls agendas right now- something yall spent this argument debating about (how justified your agenda is) you’re just mad cause you’re probably starting to realize a lot of MAGA fans are hypocritical, entitled, selfish, ignorant ppl who prioritizes their “comfortably” over everyone else’s safety and own basic comforts. I see yall every other day at my job, all MAGAs pretty much act and look the same way.
it makes me so sad bc like. idk i used to feel bad for them but at this point they’re so far in it’s just like idc if you’re not the one personally pulling the levers and hurting people. Like they’re standing there cheering and it makes me nauseated just to even think about how devoid of empathy and everything really that girlhood stands for that they are
I like how you talk about “free speech isn’t a free for all to call people a bitch” but half of your argument has consisted of saying “if you’re going to be queer and walk around looking queer don’t be mad when someone exercise their freedom of speech and say things to you about it”. Do you see the huge lines of hypocrisy runs through your arguments??
Like walls are talking to walls 😭 if someone has evidence that disproves the other, the other will point something out that’s wrong or derail. And it goes both ways. A wall can’t hear another wall out if they’re in their own wall thoughts. Left right and center, no one is listening to learn but just listening to disprove or prove
Not all people that voted for trump judge others that are liberal. I am a women who voted for trump idgaf what you like or don’t like. Just that you provide for yourself and be an upstanding citizen. 🤷🏻♀️ Something’s I think Democrats just try to cause trouble and make unreasonable claims when they don’t know every single republican to make such a strong assumption like that. You know what they say about assume your making an ass out of you and me
no one gives a shit what you are just be yourself and don’t make it your entire personality that’s what annoys people. just like girls who voted for trump such as myself don’t have to make that their entire personality. if everyone could just be who they are and not give a shit what other people think everything would be perfect. i promise genuinely no one cares. (this wasn’t meant to come off mean btw lol)
coming from a woman who voted for trump - i understand that everyone has their different opinions which is how the world should be!! but i completely agree with you and i feel like the only reason that the right has not the greatest feeling toward the left is because it feels like they think they’re the only ones who can freely express their opinions on something. it just becomes frustrating to feel like we can’t speak our minds too. whether or not we agree it costs nothing to be respectful.
i have been very respectful throughout this entire post. i said bitch literally like twice. I provided actual statistics and data and was told “stats and your safety don’t matter only my comfort does”. Like in any genuine debate format if you responded to peer reviewed journals with “nuh uh fake news” your opponent would be awarded the point.
here’s how ridiculous your “concern” about trans women is: 20% of all trans people report being physically assaulted in the past year, if just 1% of those assaults were perpetrated by cis women that would be 200 per year. Making cis assaults on trans women 294,000 times more likely than the other way around. Even if only 0.01% of those were cis women it’s still 294x higher. You are 50x more likely to be murdered on any given day than be assaulted by a trans woman or a cis man dressing up
No, you can express yourself. However, if you “expressing yourself” infringes on my basic human rights, or others, that’s not a “political belief” that’s a human rights violation. If you voted for Trump you are a bigot. If you actively support Trump you are a bigot. It’s just a fact. Trump is a racist, homophobic, transphobic, misogynistic, genocidal rapist and if you support him you’re no better.
what exactly are the human rights violations you’re talking about? i have no hatred against any sort of people and i can name numerous efforts trump has made in support of all kinds of groups of people. I, unlike you, wouldn’t go out of my way to EVER call someone a bigot or anything unkind just because we disagree. That’s where we’re different.
He’s deleting our history. He’s removing information off of our websites, cut funding to the lgbtq suicide hotline, destroyed the stone wall monument, stated that in America, you have to be the gender of which you were at gestation (he accidentally made everyone female with that one), he banned trans people from the military, he is about to go after the right to marry. Now tell me this, what has he done to support the lgbtq community. The answer is truly nothing
they’re literally trying to suspend the 2nd amendment for trans people rn. They’ve already gotten rid of discrimination protections in employment, healthcare, and housing. All at the direction of trump’s administration and his executive orders. Trans people can be denied a job, a home, and employment solely for being trans. Idk if you’ve ever heard of the civil rights act? but that’s literally it’s whole purpose was to protect those three things for people of any race, sexual orientation, etc.
If you support Trump, who is transphobic, homophobic, racist, and misogynistic which all fall under being a “bigot”, than you are all of those things, hence a bigot. It’s not a debate. It’s a fact. If you support him and voted for him. You voted for a racist. Voted for a homophobe. Voted for a misogynist. Voted for a transphobe. Voted for a bigot.
okay! he appointed a very openly gay cabinet member, created a literal global campaign to decriminalize homosexuality, created an executive order to end lgbtq discrimination in the workplace, and he’s donated to multiple foundations in literal support in protecting members of the lgbtq community. why would he do things like this if he hated them?
He actually has worked with anti lgbtq companies. So why is he banning trans people from entering the military? removing suicide hotlines for the lgbtq, going after gay marriage, under one of his FIRST executive orders he made it so you cannot be trans. Stated you have to be whatever gender you were at “gestation” however, since he’s a fucking dumbass with no background in biology, failed to realize that makes everyone female, as all eggs are female at gestation
it’s wild to me that you seeing your bisexual sister happy is something that matters to you but you refuse to empathize with any of the other trans and gay people who have expressed to you time and time again that trump has made them feel unsafe, unwanted, and unwelcome in america.
It’s literally this: *punches someone in the face* “hey did you just punch me in my face” “WHAT NO! I WOULD NEVER PUNCH SOMEONE IN THE FACE AND SINCE IM SAYING IT THAN IT MUST BE TRUE” “I literally saw you punch me” “WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT I DIDNT PUNCH YOU SEE MY WORDS HOLD MEANING” *punches them in the face again* “I WOULD NEVER I HAVE A FACE”
Sorry I’ll translate what you said “I have no factual evidence to prove that Trump isn’t a piece of shit bigot so I’m done saying he isn’t because I have no proof whatsoever and there’s only proof he is a piece of shit bigot, and I shouldn’t have to say he is because that makes me one and I’m uncomfortable with the fact that I’m a piece of shit”
girl please like. You say you care about queer people but i’m telling you right now how your vote is hurting me and you don’t care at all. I care about you, i care about women’s rights, i care about your sister’s rights. Just please for the love of god be honest with yourself for just one minute.
i can tell you have no self love, and really enjoy putting down others because you’re insecure! I’m gonna go enjoy my night because i’m hot as fuck and i know i am, and have fun with my friends because i actually have them! but please do try to do something productive tonight, instead of making the same argument on the internet with a stranger.❤️
listen i know it fucking sucks to be wrong. I know. But i promise you nothing bads gonna happen if you change your mind one day. It’s like church. One little act of understanding and acknowledgement and then all is forgiven. We will literally forgive forget everything you’ve ever said and done: we just want to know that you can still empathize with other people, that you’re still the person we grew up playing on the playground with.
of course i can! and i 100% respect you and realize that you feel differently than me and that is 100% okay!! you are a wonderful wonderful person and i know i am a great person too! as long as we can acknowledge that we have a difference in opinions and still show respect for one another💗💗
I don’t know if you’re just choosing to be oblivious or if you really are just that… slow? Naive? From actual facts being thrown at you and because you really have no proper counter argument. Either way I’m embarrassed for you. You need to look at yourself in the mirror and reflect on yourself deeper than your surface level claim of being “hot” ask yourself some deep questions and YOU do some research on this topic.
I just don’t understand how politics always will make the person. I vote for policies not person. Can I admit that trump is a bad person yes, can I admit that Kamala is a bad person, yes. I am also catholic and my church is holding my wife’s and is wedding. I do have a trans brother that I love with all my heart
i’m not saying it makes you this or that. I’m saying the consequences of what you’ve done, regardless of if you intended it at the time, have irreparably hurt me. And you either care or you don’t. Like i don’t have time to waste on people who don’t care how i feel, how my friends feel, how my family feels. I’m fucking terrified. We are all terrified. And it just doesn’t matter to anyone on the other side
last november, shortly after trump won, my cousin was murdered as a transgender woman by a man who took issue with her transness. Wanna take a guess which team he rooted for? where he got his news from? he was wearing his views on his head when killed her. I’m so so tired and i just don’t want anyone else to have to experience this ever again. Hate crimes against LGBTQ+ people were on the decline every single year until 2016 and then all the sudden they started creeping back up again. I’m sad.
Omg I’m so sorry. No matter views, no one deserves to die. That’s the number one thing I believe in. I’m not left or right. I stand for all people. I don’t believe that someone deserves to die because of political affiliation or the way they choose to live. I’m so sorry about your cousin, she will live in my prayers
i just don’t understand how you see trump in any way as accepting of LGBTQ+ people. We are woke. We are the woke they’re coming to remove from society. That’s what started this all. That’s why my cousins dead. Like. i just don’t have anything left to give. I’ve tried so many ways to try to understand how it is you can justify it and i come up blank every single time.
I’m real sorry to have to tell you this, but having family who are LGBT or POC doesn’t necessarily mean you can’t still hold racist or homophobic views. 😢 As a gay person, it would honestly make me low-key sad if I found out my Republican family members were using me as a token online to ‘prove’ to strangers that they’re not homophobic. :(
I’m not saying I hate Trump supporters because they have different beliefs than me, I’m saying I hate Trump supporters because they are openly campaigning a shit ton of human rights violations. They say “trans people should be eradicated” and I say “fuck you” and they have the fucking audacity to say it’s just a political opinion
You don’t love anyone who is Queer, period. Thanks to y’all and your absolutely disgusting adoration of a sex offender who has run every business into the ground and is a prolific liar— GAC is being revoked from EVERYONE, gay marriage is next on the chopping block, the DOE is moving to undo the ADA. People DIE because of shit like this. And you knew that.
Actually mine if from the NYT and Washington post, which have reportedly stated that he is going after human rights, you’re a Nazi if you support Trump. You’re against basic human rights if you support Trump, and you hate all minorities and are pro segregation if you support Trump