Anonymous #2 13w

are we making violence against women a brand?

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Anonymous #1 13w

Can you explain to me how the album cover was violent??

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Anonymous OP 13w

it’s an image of a man grabbing a woman by her hair. her on her knees. grabbing someone by their hair is violent. it’s not cute, it’s not quirky. if it was satire, then it would make women feel seen and make men feel uncomfortable, not be something men find attractive.

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Anonymous #1 13w

Hair pulling’s a kink???? Honestly the fact that you’re jumping to violence says more about you than her…

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Anonymous #1 13w

Honey… I highly doubt her vision was violence… girlie pop is k!nky af. I think you need to relax and let the woman explore her sexuality. If you don’t like it don’t consume her content

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Anonymous OP 13w

it’s not about me. it’s about projecting that to the world as being “satire” when it very much is not.

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Anonymous #2 13w

i really couldn’t care less.

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Anonymous #1 13w

Girl… unclench

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Anonymous #1 13w

And yet you’re making comments…

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Anonymous OP 13w

she literally did a lolita inspired photoshoot. i shouldn’t have to explain to you why that is deeply problematic for a grown woman to be doing. all while infantalizing herself with her whole “im so small” bit. like come ON.

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Anonymous #1 13w

I’m going to be so honest. I don’t care that she laid in the grass under a sprinkler and took a photo, I don’t care that she’s getting her hair pulled in a photo. Our president is literally felon/r@pist and he’s turning dictator. If this is the biggest issue you’re facing right now you need to wake the fück up.

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Anonymous OP 13w

this is a fallacy. both things can be problematic at once. it’s not one or the other.

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Anonymous #1 13w

100% but I definitely feel like a military parade, militarized police, war threats, censoring reporters and revoking human rights are definitely more important than a woman expressing sexuality. If you have the enough energy to care about Sabrina, I don’t think you’re worried enough about the future of this country

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Anonymous #2 13w

i again, shouldn’t have to explain to you why a massive pop star should not be doing lolita inspired photoshoots, or catering to men when we are actively headed towards a critical period of time for women’s liberation.

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Anonymous OP 13w

did you want me to throw myself in front of a tank?

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Anonymous #1 13w

Who said being sexual was catering to men? Can’t a woman just BE. Also, again OUR FUCKING COUNTRY IS BURNING DOWN ALONG WITH WOMENS RIGHTS. IF YOURE SO CONCERNED ABOUT WOMENS LIBERATION ID BE TALKING ABOUT TBE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION. Jesus fucking Christ

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Anonymous #1 13w

Ok and Elvis Presley was censored for his hip gyrations on tv because it was “indecent”. You’re putting a lot of meaning on a picture.

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Anonymous #1 13w

No but id expected someone who says they care this much to be smart enough not to get hung up on these stupid distractions from the real issues

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Anonymous OP 13w

again, being on your knees by the hair for a man isn’t a simple display of sexuality that is representative of women’s liberation. choices do not exist in a vacuum. choice feminism implies that anything a woman chooses to do is feminist, which is incorrect.

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Anonymous OP 13w

again, two things can be a problem at one time.

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Anonymous #1 13w

You’ve got the processing power of a goldfish babe

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Anonymous #1 13w

No one’s saying they can’t you just seem to be prioritizing one over the other.

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Anonymous #2 13w

this is one fucking conversation thread. sabrina happens to be the topic of this one. you do not know me, you do not know what i prioritize.

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Anonymous OP 13w

says the choice feminist ☠️

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Anonymous #1 13w

Girlie pop. Sabrina isnr the topic! The topic is distractions! For the love of god

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Anonymous OP 13w

again, both things can be a problem at the same time. they are quite literally both topic of conversation.

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Anonymous #1 13w

Thank god for you this convo is anonymous

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Anonymous #1 13w

This post is about Trump being the bigger problem and you’ve been ranting about Sabrina only. You do have messed up priorities based on these comments and that’s all I need to know in this moment. Like I said Elvis was also considered “vulgar” for his time so with that perspective you’re putting too much weight on a PICTURE. Take several seats and rethink your priorities.

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Anonymous #2 13w

again, both things are an issue. i keep talking about sabrina because you guys are dismissing it as a total non issue, which it isn’t.

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Anonymous #1 13w

Of course it’s a nonissue, if one album cover could set back the feminist movement so significantly Madonna would have done it already in the 90s. Calm down

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Anonymous #2 13w

they’re different artists that have painted themselves in different lights. so it is different cultural discourse.

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Anonymous #1 13w

Then it would have been Kesha or Britney or literally hundreds of other women throughout the years. NO ONE HERE CARES BUT YOU

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Anonymous #4 13w

Yes it’s poor timing, but I personally believe the current administration is a bigger stressor right now and this is taking attention and rage off of what’s going on politically

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Anonymous #4 13w

this is exactly the point i was trying to get at, thank you for finding the picture.

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Anonymous OP 13w

Yeah the current administration is a bigger problem but that doesn’t mean that we can’t still discuss and think critically about pop culture. Politics and pop culture are kind of inevitably intertwined anyway

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I’m more concerned with the bodily harm this administration is going to have on people. Like mass deportations, concentration camps, spending money on a military parade, militarized police, human rights being stripped away and a treat of war. But yeah! Be upset about an album cover, put your energy and thought process there and take your time and energy and rage away from real, pressing problems. 👍

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Anonymous #1 13w

is your criticism of "choice feminism" meant to imply that women's choice to engage in kink/bdsm is bad for society?

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Anonymous #8 13w

and is this the "lolita" photo shoot you're referring to?

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Anonymous #8 13w

This one

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Anonymous #8 13w

And recently her new record art

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Anonymous #4 13w

I totally agree. For someone who experienced domestic abuse like this, the cover is incredibly triggering because you don’t know the context… is it bedroom? Is it in the open?

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Anonymous #9 13w

I think for a lot of people it’s that lots of her fans tend to try to make her out to be one and keep saying her album is “satire” or something like that, when it clearly isn’t and likely won’t be because her music usually just lacks that kind of complexity

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Anonymous #4 13w

A lot of people also take issue with the fact that this album cover image being used is in extremely poor taste given the current political climate because it can be interpreted as reinforcing harmful stereotypes and normalizing/trivializing the degradation of women by men

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Anonymous #9 13w

Are you going to elaborate on what's wrong with these images and why she's wrong for posting them or are we simply supposed to agree because you found some comparison - which she has denied was an inspiration? Are you going to answer their question about choice feminism? Do you even understand the difference between Lolita, lolita subculture and loli? It doesn't appear so. She's in a gown. This is neither

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Anonymous #9 13w

So far what I'm getting is "omg she's in a gown under a sprinkler and what appears to be a bodysuit next to a man! This is horrible! Women's choices are bad for society!"

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Anonymous #9 13w

Oh, actually, why are you speaking for #1? I'll wait for them to answer #8 and I's questions lol. You have no clue what they think

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Anonymous #11 13w

I was just answering the question babe i literally made zero assertions she asked what photoshoot and i showed her like what

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Anonymous #11 13w

Making all these assumptions when i never even gave an opinion i was j trying to be helpful. Weird and mad.

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