Man stfu

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Well that’s what women are told to do, why is it any different?

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Anonymous #3 23h

i agree it shouldn't have to be that way more women either

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It’s literally just turning it around on men. No one actually believes that men shouldn’t leave the house. The point of the post was to show how men have created an environment where women have to go to these extreme lengths to stay safe, and now men are getting mad that they have to as well.

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I see what you mean though, buts it’s kinda just flipping the script to show how stupid it is for women to have to take extreme precautions

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Anonymous #4 23h

It’s satirical, bro.

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whole point went over your head my guy

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the point just went right over u head so bad

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Anonymous #8 22h

Girls have to be cautious BECAUSE of guys…

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Oh so you just missed the whole point of the post actually. Besides, a lot of women do that and still get sa'd.

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the point just went right over ur head. Bye

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this what i'm sayin

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Anonymous #11 22h

Women get SA’d just by staying at home?

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Anonymous #10 22h

Yeah, by their husbands, fathers, brothers—moms—sisters. Don’t think just because you’re related to them doesn’t mean you’re off the table.

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was i dressing modestly when i was 4 in a hello kitty onesie?

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What average girl do you know that has rape fantasies…or just some fucked up thoughts about men?

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Anonymous #15 22h

It’s satire. The post is listing all of the things that women typically have to consider to avoid sexual harassment and/or violence from men. When men go on about false accusations ruining lives, it seems so out of touch to women who simply can’t exist in the modern world without constantly have to watch their back and protect themselves from men.

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Anonymous #16 22h

Oohhhh, that makes sense. Ty

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maybe shut the fuck up when its not ur place to speak. Women ARE afraid BECAUSE of men, it it hurts your poor little frail feelings so much cuz its “divisive” then maybe you should start advocating for men to keep their hands to themselves and dick in their pants so statements like that don’t have to be made.

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Anonymous #10 21h

Weirdos breaking and entering is a common thing yk that right you dickhead?

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Anonymous #17 21h

I advocate for that everyday!!! 😃 And the same way I advocate for men to take women’s SA very seriously I advocate for women to take men’s false SA accusations seriously. They are both terrible and very pressing issues. And they will never ever ever be solved by saying things like “Men have to be afraid BECAUSE of girls…” That statement is equally as unproductive and intentionally divisive. If you care about women and SA you should also care about men and SA

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It’s must be so hard for you to hear the truth. The only way to work towards improving anything is for people like you to face reality and accept the truth. Otherwise the issue will never be addressed, let alone solved.

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Anonymous #9 21h

this

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Anonymous #14 21h

And honestly, if you disagree with my saltine cracker ass take… You don’t care about SA as it pertains to men and women. You really just wanna be mad about something 🤷‍♂️ Men and women need to work together to solve both of these issues. Until we realize that it will never get solved. ✌🏿

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Anonymous #14 21h

Also why are you even on this community as a man? Why can’t you let women have spaces to feel safe? Men are always invading them

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Anonymous #18 21h

🙉 (this is you)

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You believe women are not afraid because of men?

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Anonymous #14 21h

But most women get sexually assaulted the % of men who get falsely accused of sexual assault is so low we don’t know what it is.

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Anonymous #2 21h

your and everyone’s one & only example. chris brown, donald trump, kobe bryant… 3x the folks who were convicted for assault & lived/are living wonderful lives.. what are you defending?

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Anonymous #14 21h

every time female sexual assault is talked about men come in and say "what about false accusations ruining a mans life" "what about women who sexually assault men". and yes it does happen BUT not to the extent that it happens to women. this post is obviously about what women go through because of men. and they act like its the worst thing in the world that could ever happen if they got false accusations. rape ruins lives

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Anonymous #14 21h

The way to mitigate the problem of false accusations is to make a justice system that actually investigates rape accusations.

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Anonymous #14 21h

False accusations are an issue, i never said they weren’t but how you gonna come on to a GIRLS ONLY community as a grown ass man and complain abt false allegations on post trying to raise awareness of how SA is down played and women are instructed to have certain measures to be safe when it should never realistically get to that point? Men like you are exactly the type of men that say that sex you regret isn’t rape. Your take is braindead and misogynist. more over, false allegations are rare.

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Anonymous #22 20h

I’m very sorry this happened to you. And as a black person who’s attracted to women I actually spend a decent amount of time trying to avoid anything that might appear predatory or threatening as it could endanger me or my reputation. But at the end of the day I would always rather believe a liar than protect a rapist.

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Anonymous #19 20h

this is just sad to hear, i understand where you are coming from but just look up shawn oakman real quick.

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Anonymous #2 20h

*one* example. there are countless convicted rapists who are still living life to their fullest

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Anonymous #20 20h

Ronald Cotton, Alan Newton, Freddie Peacock, David Wiggins, Eric Sarsfield, Henry James, Timothy Bridges, Rickey Johnson, Steven Barnes, Samuel Scott, Douglas Echols, Cornelius Dupree, Ray Krone, Dion Harrell, James O’Donnell, Brandon Moon

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Anonymous #2 20h

Our President is a convicted rapist. What now? He definitely seems to be doing okay. You can look up as many names on google as you want, SA accusations are basically a non issue & just want to defend rapists

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Anonymous #20 20h

maybe if so many false accusations aren’t made then this would be a non issue

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Anonymous #8 19h

isnt the point to get rid of rape culture so nobody has to be cautious or scared?

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yes because 1 testimony can account for an entire group of humans

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Anonymous #2 19h

Adding Brock turner to your list because I recently found out he now freely lives in and frequents bars in a city about 1 hour away from me, and changed his name to Allen turner. Clearly, he’s doing just fine.

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Anonymous #27 19h

Okay so that’s just not true. Just look up the stats for yourself it’s 3.8% of men are raped and most studies put false accusations at a 5.9% (numbers are from CDC and the department of justice) I’ll give you there’s terrible studies about male SA accusations but at that point we just need more studies so I’m gonna form my opinion on what we assume to be true.

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Anonymous #14 19h

I believe that stat is based on how many rape charges are not convicted/the victim retracts their desire to prosecute. That does not necessarily mean it was a false accusation. A deeper dive shows men are about .03% likely to be raped in a year, and .0002% likely to be falsely accused in a year.

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Anonymous #19 18h

You shouldn’t be partial to anyone unless evidence comes out. Especially knowing that black men are extremely likely to be falsely accused by a white woman. I wouldn’t risk possibly ruining someone’s life, etc unless I have evidence. I’m a rape victim myself. Once by a guy much older than me, and once by my ex boyfriend which I then promptly left him a few weeks after. It’s understandable that people would want proof. It should always be innocent until proven guilty. Without that mindset-

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Anonymous #28 18h

-We would all be in prison. We’re a democracy. Not some fascist dictator ship. We cannot afford to strip people of their rights, (you do have a right to not be falsely accused) in order to protect someone’s feelings.

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Anonymous #18 17h

What exactly does accepting the truth do? Men already know the harm they cause. The most progressive countries also tend to have the men that cause the most sexual violence and you can look this up. The cold truth is that the chemicals that make up a man’s biology AKA mostly testosterone leads to this violence. The punishments for such a thing just have to be more severe and I say this as a man. It is quite literally in men’s nature to act more violently sexually and physically.

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Anonymous #32 17h

And I’m not saying this as an excuse for men to do what they want because it’s in their nature. I would always advocate that they need to be more heavily punished, but unfortunately most world leaders are also sexual aggressors that came from frats, cults, etc.

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Anonymous #32 17h

I’m pretty sure it’s not normal for somebody to rape another person that’s victim blaming and you’re just basically saying well we can’t stop it. It’s in their DNA. WTF

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Anonymous just_cl0v3r 17h

No you’re not understanding me. I specifically said I’m not trying to excuse it, don’t tell me I am because that’s just false. I AM SAYING that the only way to stop it is to punish it incredibly harsh. Fucking torture them or castrate them. We don’t need scum like that in the world and instead of employing soft liberal non punishments like these progressive countries do, we need to make these criminals feel REAL PAIN

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Anonymous just_cl0v3r 17h

And I hate these men just as much as any woman would because guess what? Men are also extremely violent towards other men too, I don’t want to live in a world where I may get stabbed or shot by some random dude on a schizophrenic outburst. I hate that we don’t implement harsher punishments for these lawless pieces of shit.

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Anonymous #20 17h

I mean Duke Lacrosse too

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Anonymous #20 17h

dismissing real cases by deflecting to a different issue entirely sets a dangerous precedent of thought. rape can be bad and false allegations of rape can be bad too. thats a world we can agree on right? or is defending an innocent man defending rapists?

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Anonymous #20 17h

gave more than one example bud

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Anonymous #20 17h

Leonard Mack, Ian Schweitzer, Shawn Schweitzer, Frank Pauline Jr., William Barnhouse, James Calvin Tillman, Charles Dabbs, William Gregory, James Waller, Gregory Counts, VanDyke Perry, Kerry Kotler, Leonard Callace, Terry Chalmers, Victor Ortiz

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Anonymous #35 17h

Yes I agree100%, the post I was replying to said “one and only example” when there’s definitely more than 1 example, making that statement incorrect

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Anonymous #20 17h

Habib Wahir Abdal, David Shawn Pope, Lesly Jean, Kirk Bloodsworth, Earl Washington, Larry Mayes, Yusef Salaam, Kevin Richardson, Antron McCray, Raymond Santana, Korey Wise, Ervin Harris, Archie Williams, Ken Wyniemko, Perry Lott, and Anthony Massingill

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Anonymous #26 17h

While I think your numbers are low. I appreciate you diving deeper and I think there is a lot of validity to your claim. The numbers I gave are too high and from poor studies. I’ll say, I think your numbers are just as shit as mine. At .03 that would be 4million men raped a year and that’s a lot of total rape cases in 1 year. And I think .0002 is too low that’s only 60000. More believable than 4 million tho

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Anonymous #14 17h

the study that is being referenced is US alone so that would equate to roughly 340,000 men in the US alone

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Anonymous #2 17h

All right, since we’re just throwing shit out of the water, let’s open the entire world to women only and then your number will seem so fucking small.

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Anonymous #2 17h

I checked my math, you’re right about that number. But they’re still weird numbers. But there’s only 440000 rape cases reported a year. Doing the math that would mean there are 250000 unreported cases of male rape.

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Anonymous just_cl0v3r 16h

Haha fine with me. You’re just not gonna be happy when I come out of the closet as a trans-woman.

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Anonymous #34 16h

there are a lot more cases than people realize. it’s a real issue

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Anonymous #14 16h

That’s not how those stats work. It’s the chance that a man will be raped or falsely accused annually, not the percent of men raped or falsely accused annually. It’s the difference between saying everyone has a 1% chance of dying every year versus 1% of people die every year. Obviously not accurate numbers but that’s the point being made. It’s more likely a man will be raped than falsely accused.

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Anonymous just_cl0v3r 16h

as you can see i wasn’t agreeing with anyone i was just stating what the study was u idiot

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Anonymous #26 16h

the cdc study was from like 2016

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Anonymous #28 16h

Again, not how stats work. That’s out of the number of men who are accused of rape in total, including convictions and non convictions. Not the percent of the entire male population. I need everyone citing numbers to know how stats work in the first place before saying whatever sounds the most extreme.

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Anonymous #2 16h

so it’s basically out of date now

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Anonymous just_cl0v3r 16h

sure is i’d estimate the percentages for both men and women have gone up since then

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Anonymous #28 16h

Wow, go back to school.

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Anonymous #26 15h

No this is the percent of men in the United States. Google it. https://www.nsvrc.org/resource/false-allegations-sexual-assault-analysis-ten-years-reported-cases/ this is the percentage of men FALSELY ACCUSED as reported by the police.

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Anonymous #36 15h

Maybe you should, great argument against my point though.

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Anonymous #10 15h

You disgust me

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Anonymous #38 15h

I need a source on that

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Anonymous #38 14h

I just read that statistics. It’s 2-10 reports are false. However other studies found that out of 2,059 reported cases there’s was a false report rate of 7% which was 140 total cases. Imagine you, and 2,059 people were in a field. And someone told you that a 140 of you were going to die, would you not be scared? Now compare that to men are falsely accused of rape. They lose their jobs, friends, family, sometimes they even go to jail because lest we not forget that the U.S had an extremely rate

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Anonymous #28 14h

-of innocent people in prison. Is that not awful to you? And black men are disproportionately affected by false accusations because of racism. Do you not remember that point in history were people were being lynched for not only being black, but false rape allegations by white women and other men? Men who have an allegation against them get beat up all the time. And you’re telling me that 10% of the time it’s an innocent man? This also ignore the amount of allegations made where a woman is -

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Anonymous #10 14h

i got raped when i was 14 and this was all of my high schools reaction to hearing about it while the girl (who was 19 btw) graduated with no repercussion. I know it seems like a funny joke but its seriously not funny

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Anonymous #28 14h

-lying and doesn’t bother to report it to the police. So the statistic is likely much higher that just 2-10%. We’re not an authoritarian autocracy. We have “innocent until proven guilty” for a reason.

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Anonymous #17 14h

As woman, let’s not act like women are just these innocent angels. I have sexually assaulted by lesbian women SEVERAL times in my life. Look at how many women and men support sex trafficking. It’s literally split 50/50 pretty much. Women perpetuate rape culture just as much as men do. Mothers dating pedos, defending family predators, etc etc. you should watch the movie “precious” we should be scared of each other. This isn’t men vs women. It’s us vs predators.

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Anonymous #28 14h

this argument got me called a incel man in the last “conversation” i had on here. i said that too often misandrist women and insecure men fight for no reason and don’t get anything done and that got me called an incel man when i am in fact a lesbian woman

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Anonymous #9 14h

Why are we acting like men don’t have to be scared of similar things when they go out? Sure it’s not to the same degree, but neither are false allegations

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Anonymous #40 14h

Cuz people wanna live. Ur basically saying stay 🏠

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Anonymous #45 14h

it’s just like the most common excuse to avoid accountability ever that everyone is tired of hearing it because if a guys first instinct upon hearing about an SA incident is to assume it could be a false accusation that’s probably more telling than anything. and when actual abusers or assaulters take advantage of the fear of a false accusation to get supporters to attack the victim it’s just abhorrent. so naturally there’s skepticism

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Anonymous #44 14h

I agree that it's a problem, but I still wouldn't want to be accused of SA

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Anonymous #35 13h

I had to drop out of public school because of her accusations, and even when I was proved innocent and it was proved that she did it maliciously (she was also 19 and I was 17) nothing happened to her and people still hate me. Even with proof of her saying she lied.

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Anonymous #35 13h

as a man ur more likely to be raped than falsely accused bud

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Anonymous #28 13h

2-10% is actually the number of rape CASES estimated to be false accusations, when individual men are factored in it boils down to about a 0.03% chance of an individual man being accused of rape in his lifetime

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Anonymous #28 13h

wait ur man privilege is showing really hard right now, what if you and 2059 people were in a field and they told you 412 of you were going to be raped?? welcome to being a woman!!!

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Anonymous #44 12h

Their first instinct isn’t that but if the woman doesn’t have substancial evidence or changes her story seems pretty fucking shady

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Anonymous #40 12h

You know it can happen anywhere at any time? It mostly happens with people you trust/know. You’re actually dense if you think like that.

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Anonymous #19 11h

This is absolutely insane to say, you’re saying you would believe a woman who is lying about being raped with zero evidence over a guy who never did it but is accused??? Holy fuck

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Anonymous #20 11h

Trump is not a convicted rapist tf are you talking about 😂😂

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Anonymous just_cl0v3r 9h

I personally dated at least two 😶

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Anonymous #50 9h

I have no legs to stand on in the broader conversation so I’m not gonna address that but I do feel the need to say that yes I have actually met many women with rape fantasies. This is definitely definitely a thing. How that fits into this argument? You decide!

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Anonymous #18 9h

Tbf yikyak shows this forum on the FYP very very often

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Anonymous #46 7h

even if there is evidence there’s always someone who claims it’s fabricated or exaggerated like no matter what is provided there will always be guys out there refusing to believe victims who are almost always women but even men can be victims too which is much more likely than a false accusation. if anything the accuser risks a lot to even come out at all, which is why after one comes out typically it inspires others to come forward as well as there’s strength in numbers and it’s more believable

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Anonymous #44 6h

They don’t believe the men either, in fact they are far less likely to believe the men

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Anonymous #43 6h

That’s because men get raped too you just don’t get the national coverage on it bc they should man up or they probably liked it

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Anonymous #47 6h

Damn, I must blow the average out of the water because I’ve been falsely accused of sexual assault multiple times in my life as a 20 year old just because “he looks like a creep so I’m probably right anyway”

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Anonymous #18 6h

Was recommended for me for some reason but u right(only comment I’m making, lys dis is y’all’s community)

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Anonymous #52 5h

It’s almost as if women are the age of 21 can’t buy a gun 🤯 and that’s when majority of the assaults first happen. Is from childhood-21 years old

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Anonymous OP 5h

Under the age*

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Anonymous #47 5h

I’m a woman, and I’ve been raped twice. Yeah obviously rape is bad and scary. But so are false allegations lmfao

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Anonymous #39 4h

lol

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Anonymous #35 4h

I wasn’t making fun about the 🍇 part

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Anonymous #32 4h

i literally choose to inject myself with testosterone every week and have been doing it for the past 4 years so i can have the same levels as a cis man and i’ve never once thought about acting violently sexually or physically. it’s not a biological thing, you guys just think it’s ok and youre supported by other men to continue doing so.

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Anonymous #55 4h

That’s because your woman, no amount of drugs can make you a male you were born with XX chromosomes

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Anonymous #49 4h

dude i’ve got more hair on my chest than you or your dad and i still don’t think about being violent towards someone. i’m pretty sure i’m a guy.

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Anonymous OP 4h

what state are you in? you can buy a gun at like any age in PA

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Anonymous #10 4h

you literally were. “pass the controller” or “my steak is too buttery” is an insinuates that nothing serious actually happened. i know thats not what you mean to say, i empathize and understand that, but it really feeds into the whole “you’re a man, you should have enjoyed it” crowd that just downplays rape bc of the victims demographic

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Anonymous #35 4h

I get this shit all the time when ever I try to talk about my (self described I’m not name calling here) nympho ex. “Oh she harassed you at school and work? Oh she assaulted you in your sleep? Goals!!”

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Anonymous #39 4h

i feel lucky enough that i found a group of friends that really supported me and heard me during that time and they actually got her kicked off of a club she was in which would have been vindicating if i didn’t know that if i were the 19 year old doing the same thing i would probably be in jail right now due to my gender.

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Anonymous #50 3h

same girl from the story i talked about above was a coworker of mine at the time and she was the same way, like pushing me into the bathroom mid-shift to do stuff and one of my good friends back then who also worked there responded to me saying practically what you said word for word and a week later i quit with no notice and never saw him again. good riddance.

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Anonymous #28 3h

both can be true without false accusations needing to be brought up and harped on every time a woman is raped. it is so invalidating and weird and it is highly unlikely.

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Anonymous #2 3h

horrible that happened to all of them. the women who falsely accused those men should absolutely be convicted for defamation. with that being said, 1 in every 5 women has been raped. not assaulted, raped. that’s 780 million women. 99% of these are perpetrated by men. let’s not pick and choose where to put our empathy.

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Anonymous #57 2h

i don’t think bringing up false SA allegations victims is “pick[ing] and choos[ing] where to put our empathy” i think a totalitarian conversation where we can’t talk about both sides of this coin would actually be much worse example of picking and choosing where to show empathy. like #20’s response completely disregarding the point and dismissing the issue by waving it off and saying “*one* example” is a much more dangerous precedent than #2 listing names

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Anonymous OP 2h

rifles and shotguns are legal from age 18 and up in a majority of states. then from 21 and up you can get a hand gun too if its that dire

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Anonymous #47 2h

Yeah ok lady. I’d still rather be the woman, because if you’re a man and are accused of a false accusation then go to prison, you’re going to get raped in prison + life ruined.

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Anonymous #60 2h

Facts

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Anonymous #59 2h

Facts men are almost always charged with a harsher sentence. Guy in 2023 did the same thing as Lindsey Clancy, he didn’t get a mistrial and is serving 6 lifetimes

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Anonymous #47 2h

highly unlikely yet i could probably name thousands whose lives have been ruined

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Anonymous #2 2h

like brett kavanaugh, clarence thomas, pete hegseth, and donald trump?

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Anonymous #46 2h

Men can’t undergo postpartum psychosis dawg (at least not medically, men can def enter normal psychosis after their wife gives birth). That’s why she got lighter sentencing.

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Anonymous #61 1h

Depends on the state. This isn’t true where I live.

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Anonymous #42 1h

No I completely agree I want to live but if this is talking about men not wanting to be accused women don’t want it to happen to them vise versa we both want the same let’s just live

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Anonymous #36 1h

Never said I did

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Anonymous #28 1h

Brother READ

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Anonymous #64 39m

That’s because of prison, y’know, the place people with false rape convictions get sent

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Anonymous #26 10m

Yep, so when you have a data set that much high that that, like the male population of the United States. That’s millions of men who get falsely accused. Math is crazy right?

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Anonymous #47 9m

When are false allegations brought up when a woman is raped? If you’re talking about the Cornell case, that is one big fat false allegation on those 7 men.

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