Anonymous #1 6w

any time i start to find comfort in catholicism again i remind myself of the ways it’s been used to reinforce the subjugation of women and it snaps me out of it LOL

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Anonymous #1 6w

like the people that sit there and tell me i should be more modest, to let men provide and run things etc, i so badly want to tell them to wake tf up. you’re only dressed modest because you’ve been brainwashed to think that your body is a distraction for men WHICH IS WRONG

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Anonymous #2 6w

ofc not ruling out any possibilities of there being anything at all. but i’m just not convinced at least with religions in general. i need more convincing than stuff i can literally do rn myself bc i have a fucked up brain like you might’ve too pooks (not actually you btw)

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Anonymous #2 6w

also bc of what you said ^^ religions are very much anti-women even if women themselves claim they are not. but they are honestly as a whole very restrictive of our movements and place in society. no matter how much someone tries to twist and turn and talk abt oh but it actually means this when it says that. i just believe men, at least in the past, have been insecure in their way less involvement in literally creating and maintaining the human race. it made them feel less powerful. so they

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Anonymous #2 6w

why are you calling people bitches 😭 i don’t think all religious people are unwell necessarily and i respect religious people as long as it’s not forced on me

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Anonymous #2 6w

created something (religion) to make them even more powerful than women. to make them an even more powerful force in the creation of our species and overall world. to mask any power that women do have

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Anonymous OP 6w

the modesty talk honest to god gives me the heebie jeebies with the way i’ve seen ADULT MEN call literal children immodest for showing their hair or legs (if they’re wearing shorts or a swimsuit)… EUGH it just reeks of pedophilic rape culture to me ☹️

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Anonymous #1 6w

oh girl… my mom grew up catholic and she has told me many stories about how much pedophilia and creeps are within the religion itself.

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Anonymous #2 6w

and no this isn’t me being like oh it’s womb-envy!!! while yeah it technically is what i am saying by definition. but im saying when humans had wayyyy less knowledge and understanding of the world than we do today, it’s very likely that they saw this honestly genuinely powerful action of pregnancy and birthing more humans but got insecure with their masculine and less prominent role🤷🏻‍♀️okie sorry done now ik this isn’t philosophy class

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Anonymous #2 6w

that makes sense yeah. again i don’t have an issue with people being religious bc at the end of the day it’s a constitutional right, i only have a problem when it’s forced on me or used to degrade me in any way but other than that i’m chill with them fr

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Anonymous #2 6w

if someone wants kids that’s also up to them! i know several people who aren’t religious who decided to have kids which is their body and their choice.

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Anonymous OP 6w

oh i didn’t mean to make it seem like im calling religious ppl bitches lol. i just like saying the word more ironically. i was calling the ppl who created these religions bitches but like idk a like just neutral way bc it’s a fun word to use instead of saying ppl 🤩 im not being mean promise

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Anonymous ellie 6w

dawg idk how i was religious for 18 years and i only believed bc my parents told me to but in reality i’ve never thought god was real

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Anonymous #2 6w

yeahh let’s not call people bitches please 😭 i want people on my post to remain respectful

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Anonymous OP 6w

i thought god was real and i thought i was gonna burn in hell for being queer 😭. that shit ruined like 16+ years of my life and i've spent the last 6-7 just undoing the damage the best i can.

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Anonymous OP 6w

of course, again not what i’m saying at all! im just theorizing why these religions MAY have been created as i’d say most of them are pretty anti-women and restrictive. the only reason i can genuinely think of why someone would make another so unequal during this time is bc they seem them as superior or doing something superior that makes them feel like they need to do something to hide their inferiority (not saying anything is superior/inferior. just describing the way ppl’s brains MAY have

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Anonymous ellie 6w

LITERALLY like how are they going to say that sex offenders can find god and be forgiven but if i like the same sex/gender i’m going to hell without a doubt? that’s so ass backwards

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Anonymous #2 6w

yes ik it’s not what you’re saying i just don’t want people to feel unwelcome in my comments :)

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Anonymous OP 6w

worked and been wired during the process of creating these institutions. im very direct and neutral in my head when i am communicating on things of these topics. i hold no strong opinions on what individual humans do with their own lives. but i understand if it may not come across that way!)

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Anonymous OP 6w

it's just very frustrating. if there's one thing i'd take from my experience being religious it's that Jesus would hate a lot of his current day "supporters".

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Anonymous ellie 6w

THIS. they think he would me a MAGA trump supporting bigot and i don’t think that’s true at all. matter of fact i just know that mf would be for abortion and universal healthcare but people white washed the hell out of him so now the narrative has changed.

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Anonymous OP 6w

ah my bad then! well if anyone is reading this and feels unwelcome i hope yk that i genuinely have a love for individual humans as a whole as i think humans are very cool🤩 i want everyone to live their lives accordingly as ik i have a strong need to live mine that fits my needs. i just am a neutral speaker overall and like using words that make my brain go bzzzzz. don’t mind me. nobody is actually a bitch🙏🏻

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Anonymous OP 6w

it's just so AAAAAAAHHHH thanks for listening to my ted talk 💕

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Anonymous #6 6w

most religion overall directly stems from misogyny and sexism. also, god is very much derogatory which is why it doesn’t make sense to follow them.

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Anonymous #5 6w

clock it.

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Anonymous OP 6w

Can’t ignore the biblical commands and acceptance for slavery, genocide, infanticide/familicide, ableism, racism….

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Anonymous #8 6w

jael killed an enemy general when he slept in her tent for the night. judith beheaded the general of the army that was surrounding her city. the point of these stories is to not underestimate women and then people in my religion go and underestimate us anyway.

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Anonymous #8 6w

downvoted for saying i agree with the point op is making. okay!

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Anonymous #8 6w

honestly man made organized religion is worse than what people let on. i grew up christian and left at 18. haven’t been back since and its the most freeing i’ve ever felt aside from the trauma that comes with it.

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Anonymous OP 6w

and a LOT of religion overall does involve degrading women and constantly putting them at the bottom whether people want to admit that or not.

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Anonymous #5 6w

yeah like when god burned down an entire city over “wickedness” even though not everyone there behaved the same as everyone else. people shouldn’t have to suffer because of someone else’s actions that have nothing to do with them.

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Anonymous OP 6w

But… collective punishment is so great! 🥺 /major sarcasm

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Anonymous #8 6w

The original languages are incredible misogynistic as well. Because it was written by people to harm others and gain control. 93-103 named women, compared to almost 2000 men.

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Anonymous #5 6w

which makes no sense at ALL 😭

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Anonymous OP 6w

Never has, never will. But it’s biblical so it must be all right? 🙄

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Anonymous OP 6w

and i’m happy for you! if religion isn’t your thing, i respect that! i don’t go to mass anymore. yeah, sure, some people will call me not a real catholic, but my belief that that my faith is between me and God.

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Anonymous #8 6w

everyone is entitled to believe what they want but what irritates me is that they don’t understand or refuse to understand the criticisms. i really wish more people on this app would take an ethics and philosophy class because it really shows how messed up religion actually is, yet people are brainwashed to think it’s the best thing in the world when it objectively isn’t. of course everyone is entitled to their own beliefs and practice of religion is a constitutional right.

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Anonymous #5 6w

and that sucks. i think the bible should be taken for it’s morals, like “love others” and not literally. growing up, the stories of the badass women were literally all i had (all the tv shows i was allowed to watch didn’t have main character women) as so i think about them a lot.

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Anonymous #5 6w

this. a lot of man made religion was created to control women and keep men in power. the idea that men should be leaders is what has royally fucked up this country in terms of how it’s run and how women are treated as a greater majority.

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Anonymous OP 6w

i understand that!! my original comment wasn’t disagreeing with you in any way. i also wish people would understand and accept criticism. nothing that involves humans is perfect, and that includes organized religion

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Anonymous #5 6w

and also thank your for telling me that! i always though it was the translations are misogynistic, not the original language.

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Anonymous #8 6w

most of the original language is deeply misogynistic and sexist because that’s what religion is based on since it was created by men who wanted power.

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Anonymous OP 6w

I follow Hinduism and I could give you scientific reasons for almost any problem you could point out in the religion. A lot of it has been sneaked in by priests that had propaganda or evil intentions.

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Anonymous #6 6w

Sorry, I should’ve mentioned that before. 😭

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Anonymous #6 6w

religion itself is incredibly derogatory and sexist toward women expecting them to be slaves to men and i will die on that hill. religion to me is inherently sexist, and misogynistic.

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Anonymous OP 6w

Some culture not religion. As someone who hates serving men. 🫶

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Anonymous #6 6w

no… religion is included in this. don’t piss me off.

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Anonymous OP 6w

I mean Indian culture is supportive of the patriarchal imposition on women. Hinduism is not. I won’t argue because of what I’ve learned in my religion. I’m not aware of the intricacies of Christianity and am not commenting on it. Or any other religion for that matter. If this is pissing you off, that isn’t my intention. But, I’m just trying to put my truth out there.

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Anonymous OP 6w

Also, some Indian culture, not all. We have a lot of notable people who have worked for women and supported their progress in society. Some def hold back women into boxes to serve men at their pleasure.

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Anonymous #6 6w

i’m not talking about cultures. i’m talking about religion and how bad most of it is when it comes to women. stop with the whataboutism.

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Anonymous OP 6w

I did not originally say what about. I said if. Plus a lot of Christianity was also built around the head of church and head of state. Which surprise surprise, were men. With propaganda. You’re just angry with a very closed mind.

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Anonymous #6 6w

okay sis

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