Anonymous #3 4d

right?? pissing on a memorial is straight disrespectful, no matter who it belongs to.

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Anonymous #4 4d

Exactly, I think a lot of ppl need a refresher in human decency and basic respect these days.

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Anonymous #3 4d

I think pissing on a memorial of a nazi is good, actually

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Anonymous #4 4d

Would u have this same sentiment if someone pissed on hitler’s memorials

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Anonymous OP 4d

Maybe we also learn to not throw around extreme terminology with no evidence. Thanks.

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Anonymous #3 4d

He was literally a white supremacist

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Anonymous OP 4d

Hitler KILLED millions of people… Kirk literally wasn’t even formally involved in politics and just talked to people. What a terrible analogy.

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Anonymous OP 4d

Being in favor of legal immigration and encouraging people to break out of identity politics doesn’t exactly scream white supremecy…

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Anonymous #3 4d

He also hosted the Young Black Leadership Summit, but yeah he sounds like a terrible white supremist

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Anonymous #3 4d

Posted a screenshot of weirdo shit he’s said btw

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Anonymous OP 4d

Ok he’s gone on record saying his opinions DEI/affirmative action is simply that people shouldn’t be getting preferential treatment just bc they fit a quota. It should not be a deciding factor when considering hiring somebody. Pretty valid honestly. Employers should just focus on who can do the job the best and not have to worry about “am I hiring enough people of this background or this race or this identity”

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Anonymous OP 4d

I recently saw a podcast w/ an actor/comedian that came out recently and said he was told by his agent that a lot of big producers weren’t interested in hiring white men like him rn bc they knew that would risk them be shamed for having “too many white people” in a production. So, in a way, that’s a real world example of DEI being harmful where qualified talented people are being shut out of opportunities just bc they don’t look a certain way.

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Anonymous OP 4d

I also, as a side point, encourage you to maybe look at the FULL clips from where these small quotes get plucked. A lot of ppl are jumping to conclusions based on small snippets so I encourage you to perhaps watch full videos to get the context of what he may be saying. Same goes for the big quote on gun violence that it seems everyone has grasped on to these past few days which makes a lot more sense when put into context with what he said before and after.

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Anonymous OP 4d

BUT aside from all this, regardless of personal opinions, I have enough respect and human decency to follow the classic teaching “if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say it at all”. You don’t have to mourn or publicly feel bad but you also don’t need to go out of your way to bother or shame the people who do. It’s as simple as that. Leave people to mourn in peace bc I’m sure if someone acted this way towards someone YOU cared about that died, it would be a different story.

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Anonymous #3 4d

Womp womp white supremacist got what was comin to him

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Anonymous #3 4d

op isn’t even open to reading facts-she’s brainwashed by the media. don’t even waste ur time trying to explain

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Anonymous #4 4d

Then gtfo my post 🤨

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Anonymous #4 4d

I was just going to comment that… instead of responding with something of substance, that was all they could muster up. Sad. Says a lot about their IQ and EQ. Maybe that’s why they actually didn’t like Charlie, because unlike them he actually STOOD BY his beliefs with confidence and knowledge and was open to discussion and debate. I hope one day this person can realize they’re the one that’s full of hate and spite by egging on disgusting behavior.

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Anonymous #3 3d

Yea, he stood by his belief that white men are better than everyone else. But tbf that kind of memorial has no place on a college campus especially on a rock that was most likely not for that sort of purpose. Yes peeing on it is disrespectful, besides the point. No one should be forced to stand by as people act like he was some sort of American hero that deserves memorialization. He’s not, he’s just a guy that talked about politics and his opinions online.

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Anonymous #6 3d

He did not earn any of the privileges that he is getting after his death. Memorializing him is like spitting on the graves of people who died in order to better our country (he did not, people buried in Arlington did). He’s just a guy who got shot in public, not someone you should be making into a martyr

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Anonymous #6 3d

It’s just weird how republicans are using this as a way to divide instead of thinking, “wow maybe we do have a violence and gun problem in America” and trying to work with everyone else on some goddamn reform

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Anonymous #3 3d

spitting straight facts come on now, you know liberals cant handle facts, only what fits their agenda

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Anonymous #3 3d

“He didn’t physically hurt anyone so it’s ok that he promoted the harming of others”. It’s baffling how far yall will go to try to defend a white supremacist. Almost as if you’re also……

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Anonymous #8 3d

and what about it 👅👅👅

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Anonymous #7 3d

That isn’t something to be proud of. It’s sickening how comfortable yall are admitting to being a hateful pos. And then turn around and act like victims when people call you out.

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Anonymous #8 3d

its a joke bruh. im sorry but theres no such thing as white supremacy. people need to move on from the past. poc in todays society have way more privilege than white people EVER did and its still not good enough for you. move tf on

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Anonymous #7 3d

“There’s no such thing as white supremacy” says it all. Your ability to deny reality is both impressive and repulsive. It’s no surprise someone with your mentality would be defending a whites supremacist. You gotta defend your own right? 😂 you’re a whole joke. An unfunny one but a joke no less

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Anonymous #3 3d

When the only people agreeing with you are admittedly racist and ignorant, you should rethink your stance.

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Anonymous #9 3d

Yeah lmao my school also has a queefer

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Anonymous #6 3d

He literally said that nobody should let their skin color or sexuality define what they can accomplish in life. He encouraged people to not let people tell them how they SHOULD act just bc they belong to a certain group. He told people to not have a victim mentality. Also, saying that the memorial of someone who was known for speaking at colleges to college kids and was killed on a college campus doesn’t belong on a college campus makes literally no sense.

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Anonymous #3 3d

Said all that then proceeded to say he’d be nervous if a black pilot was flying his plane and belittled the intelligence of poc and women. You either haven’t seen any of his recent videos or you’re purposely ignoring all the problematic things he’s said

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Anonymous #6 3d

No, we have a mental health epidemic. You will NEVER get gun deaths to zero. It’s no different than the opioid crisis. Drugs are illegal but aren’t people still getting them, using them, and dying from them? You need to address the PERSON and their issues. It’s not a matter of HOW they are doing it, bad ppl will always find a way to do bad things if they want to.

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Anonymous #3 3d

correct! its the same thing liberals preach about abortion that if the government were to make them illegal, they would still happen. same thing goes for guns

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Anonymous #6 3d

Also, it’s a little rich to say that republicans are at fault of the divide when it’s liberals that we are seeing on social media saying they are glad that someone with republican values was MURDERED and even worse that there are PLENTY of liberals saying that MORE SHOULD BE REPUBLICANS MURDERED. How can you expect ppl to want to come together with the same people that wish death on them?

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Anonymous #8 3d

He never promoted hurting people nor did he ever wish harm on anyone. Keep the lies and rhetoric to a minimum if you wanna have a civil conversation. Pumping out extremist terminology like a broken record player achieves nothing here.

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Anonymous #3 3d

clock itttt. i like you

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Anonymous #3 3d

If you wanna have a civil conversation, stop glorifying a man who did nothing but promote hate. Don’t pretend he magically became a saint just because he died. He was a racist, homophobic, misogynis, among so many other things. It’s not “extremism terminology”, I’m simply calling a duck a duck. I would t have to repeat myself if you people would stop plugging your ears when others speak

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Anonymous #8 3d

He was referring to on camera or on record statements made by black women in government/politics where they mentioned the role of affirmative action in them being hired… it came from their mouths and he was just commenting on their self-awareness to it. His overall message on DEI was valid where we shouldn’t care about race and feel obliged to meet quotas based on meeting diversity and just focus on ability and skill.

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Anonymous #7 3d

I appreciate that!

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Anonymous #3 3d

of course! you are spitting straight facts and some people cant comprehend or dont care to open their eyes in this brainwashed society

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Anonymous #3 3d

Being liked by someone who’s proven repeatedly that they’re purposely ignorant isn’t something to appreciate 💀 or are you also stupid enough to claim white supremacy doesn’t exist?

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Anonymous #8 3d

what are you guys arguing about I’m too lazy to back read

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Anonymous #8 3d

I’m not glorifying him. I’m saying that ppl going out of their way to ruin memorials or yell at/interrupt mourners is pathetic and disgusting. If you wouldn’t want someone doing this while YOU mourn someone YOU cared about, why is it ok at all? It’s a matter of having the human decency to leave ppl alone to express their sadness instead of acting childish and then turning around and saying “now respect my lifestyle or views”. You have to see the irony. This goes bigger than politics.

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Anonymous #8 3d

im sorry but anyone with eyes can see that life now is so much more difficult for white people than people of color! its not ignorant to see all of the accommodations people of color get regularly! moving on from the past is essential to coming together and those that can’t move past and and want all of these things are further creating segregation in 2025! i mean its sick that they are “black colleges”. THAT IS MODERN DAY SEGREGATION. open your eyes

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Anonymous #3 3d

I know the context of his statement and it didn’t make it any better. Thinking someone is less qualified simply based on their race and misconstruing what dei means is a clear example of his racism. Be so serious. Regardless of race, no one is hiring a pilot who doesn’t have a license. So him claiming that he’s scared a black pilot won’t have a license is saying he’s judging based on race not reason or logic

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Anonymous #1 3d

That seems to be the trend. Being too lazy to actually read into things yourself and look beyond a tiny quote taken from an hour long conversation.

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Anonymous #3 3d

Oh brother it’s a yikyak argument not a scholarship debate 💀🙏 anything but answering my question

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Anonymous #1 3d

Scholarly* autocorrect

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Anonymous #1 3d

i think this is girl talk not boy talk so the correct term is not brother… shouldn’t you know that as a liberal not to misgender someone?

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Anonymous #7 3d

least obvious ragebait 💀💀💀💀

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Anonymous #3 3d

A school rock is not a memorial 😭 I have a feeling you don’t argue this much when it comes to the death of actual innocent lives. But you’ll fight tooth and nail over a man who hated anyone that wasn’t a white Christian. That’s what’s actually disgusting and childish.

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Anonymous #7 3d

Historically black college doesn’t = black only colleges. Are you genuinely this stupid??? 😭 you can apply and be admitted regardless of race. The title just refers back to segregation when black people had to make their own colleges to get education. It never meant only black people can apply

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Anonymous #8 3d

I believe that there are absolutely ppl in this country that are have white supremist mindsets that are harmful and gross. HOWEVER, i can also say that seeing ppl like that and seeing the way they act and think, that Charlie Kirk was nothing like that. Someone like those ACTUAL white supremists would not willingly associate with or be in favor of giving voices/platforms to minorities. Charlie literally hosted the Young Black Leadership Summit…

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Anonymous #3 3d

“He did one nice thing for black people so he can’t be racist” had the same energy as “i have black friends so i can’t be racist” 💀 he may not be the worst of the worst, but that doesn’t make him good. And it definitely doesn’t change the things he’s said and done which prove otherwise.

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Anonymous #8 3d

I mean plenty of liberals have also been known to make questionable statements based on race too but I don’t think you’re upset by them. I mean we all remember the democratic governor in NY who said that black kids in the Bronx didn’t know what computers were, right??? Does that make her a white supremacist too? Or what about when Joe Biden went to bat against desegregation in the 70s??? No, it’s not a problem with them or what?

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Anonymous #8 3d

It’s a personal expression of grief of mourning. If you paint a rock for your mom and someone pisses on it or throws it in a river, I have a feeling you’d feel hurt. If you lack respect just say that. Nobody is telling people to mourn him themselves, we are saying to just leave ppl alone and respect their feelings. It’s just causing more divide when you are an agitator towards people who are just mourning or feel bad.

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Anonymous #8 3d

Again, he was open with saying that anyone can achieve anything regardless of their race or sexuality so it seems to me that the thing he was in favor of was self-determination. Say what you want but are plenty of ppl who think they are automatically victims just bc of a part of their identity. He was saying not to let ppl tell you that you NEED to be a victim or can’t do something by. He said don’t listen to ppl who say that & do what YOU believe you can do. It’s rly not rocket science.

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Anonymous #3 3d

Except he didn’t just make a couple questionable statements, his whole platform was based on that. And who tf said I liked Biden or think he’s a good person?? Believe it or not, you can call out people for racism even if that person is on your political “team”

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Anonymous #3 3d

I’m not gonna waste my time reading and continuing to reply to you. You’ve made it very clear that you’ll do anything to justify his hatred. You’ll resort to the blame game, moving the goal, pretending context makes it better (when it doesn’t), etc if it means you can shame others for not mourning a man who wouldn’t do the same for them. Die on that hill if you want, but I have better things to do than point out the obvious to someone refusing to open their eyes. Goofy af

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Anonymous #3 3d

Also never compare my mom to a man who built an entire platform on racism, misogyny, homophobia, and rage-baiting 😭😭 if she was anything like him, I’d have the same energy towards her. But thankfully she’s an angel (unlike him)

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Anonymous #8 3d

Just bc you disagree with someone doesn’t mean you throw extreme labels at them when they just don’t add up. On the bigger level, my most initial point still stands. I’ve said it a million times & I’ll die on this hill: 1. Celebrating or excusing the public murder of an innocent person is disgusting and is subject to appropriate repercussions. 2. Antagonizing ppl in mourning or destroying memorials is vile and just making things worse. Egging these actions on is equally as deplorable.

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Anonymous #8 3d

Lecturing me on justifying hatred when you justified someone being hateful towards someone with an opposing view is comical. There are ppl on here justifying MURDER, so that argument becomes completely invalid. My overall point on respect is the morally correct point and you have failed to prove otherwise. I hope that ppl show you more kindness the next time you grieve someone you care about bc (spoiler alert) not everyone likes the ppl you care about either.

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Anonymous #8 3d

Nobody on this planet has a 100% approval rate. Sorry to have to break that to you. Calling her an angel is only subjective. It’s no different than the way Charlie is being judged and perceived.

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Anonymous #3 3d

Yes we do have a mental health problem, that is what is aggravating the violence and gun problems. It’s a systemic issue not a single person issue. Mental health in this country is ignored and not taken seriously which is partly why we have so many problems in this country. But you’d think this event would wake up republicans and others. But as you and 7 have proven over and over again, it has not and you continue to deny that more gun legislation could help.

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Anonymous #6 3d

But since Americans don’t give a shit about other people, including mental health and physical health, the healthcare system is not going to improve anytime soon. It’s actually actively becoming worse! So instead of helping mentally ill people (bc the government won’t) we need to find a way to prevent mentally ill (in a “they are a danger to themselves or others” way) people from buying guns. The problems are so intertwined that you can’t just pick and choose

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Anonymous #6 3d

Personally I think both sides of this situation are causing issues, republicans AND democrats. Republicans should not memorializing and worshipping this dude, but people (not necessarily dems) shouldn’t be openly disrespecting the dead. That does not mean that he was a good person, just like you need to give things time to settle before you start joking 24/7 about it

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Anonymous #6 3d

I’m not saying that more gun legislation won’t help I’m just saying we need to have a realistic idea of what gun legislation will actually do. I also think another hard conversation is that some people are just beyond helping or they don’t want the help and are not compatible with civilian life. You may not want to hear it but it’s a harsh truth. Instead of coddling these people and giving them chance after chance to get better, I think we need to focus on the people who want to be helped.

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Anonymous #6 3d

This issue goes far beyond political lines. I mean just look at what we saw today with the kid who threatened to shoot up a school in MA. They just let him go with an ankle monitor. No counseling, no further investigation into his threats, nothing. Who knows what this kid will do in the future, do you really think a GPS monitor will stop him? Why are we coddling and excusing people like this and not investigating deeper into mental status and taking the necessary next steps?

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Anonymous #6 3d

This also goes for the murder of Iryna Zarutska. Why is someone with a lengthy rap sheet who has been in and out of prison just allowed chance after chance after chance to be free in society? Too many chances and now someone innocent paid for the ignorance of the system and his personal deviance. Some people can’t be helped and we need to seek appropriate justice as well.

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Anonymous #6 3d

I mean democrats loved memorializing and worshipping George Floyd and I’d say that dude wasn’t much of a gem himself. But I am glad we can agree that disrespecting the dead is wrong as I 100% agree and unfortunately some people in this thread are tone deaf to that. We aren’t saying to worship or bow down to anyone, we are just saying to show some respect and dignity. It really just comes down to “if you don’t have something nice to say, don’t say it at all”

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Anonymous #3 3d

Well yea, if you’re mentally ill the only way that will be fixed is if you yourself decide you want to get better. The problem rn is that there is no help available or it’s difficult to get help bc it’s highly inaccessible. No one is saying to coddle them, just make treatment accessible so they can actually seek it. Idk why you phrased it like you were dis’s agreeing with me saying I “may not want to hear it” when we are agreeing on the same point. Good night bc I can tell u want to argue

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Anonymous #3 3d

You can’t compare systemic violence and an assassination, bye ✌️

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Anonymous #6 3d

No no I’m saying some people (not you) that I’ve spoken to or listened to think that that’s the best way to approach mental health. It’s to keep giving chances and grace to people who just aren’t receptive to it. That’s all I’m saying. I’m saying we need to find a way to first invest in strengthening MH resources and tools and then offer help to those who have been looking for it. The harsh part is you have to know when someone is a “lost cause” and to seek alternative action with them.

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Anonymous #6 3d

When you see the glaring similarities in the aftermath, you absolutely can.

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