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this guy I’m talking too is 26 and he said the reason he doesn’t have a college degree and still lives at home is because his dad got sick when he was like 22. Am I tweaking thinking its giving bum or is that reasonable (I have a degree from college)
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Anonymous 14h

does he have a job? is he doing something with his time? not going to college isn’t inherently bummy but it really depends on the circumstances tbh. i personally wouldn’t date someone that doesn’t have a degree

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Anonymous 8h

You need to work on yourself. Not everyone has the same opportunities you do. I don’t care if you busted your ass— he may not have that opportunity and there’s nothing inherently wrong with that. Seems he’s a lot more compassionate than you are.

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Anonymous 15h

is it worse to go back to college when you’re older? (Asking for a friend)

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Anonymous 14h

i didnt get my college degree until i was 26 because i got sick. we’re all on our own timelines i think it’s a green flag he’s caring for family members

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Anonymous 14h

Idk you’re not a bum for not being able to afford college

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15h

no, my issue is he stay saying he will go back and keeps making excuses like his family like idk comes a point when he just needs to grow up

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 14h

who said anything about not being able to afford it?

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 14h

That’s why most ppl don’t go…

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 14h

And seeing as how he lives at home, he likely doesn’t have a lot of money?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 14h

oh so you’re just assuming things

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 14h

Girl sorry in my world most ppl can’t afford tens of thousands of dollars annually and most Americans can’t even afford a stable life so yeah that’s why most ppl don’t go to college lmao You must live in a privileged bubble

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 14h

he could at least try to afford it, he doesn’t even have a job

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 14h

I paid for my own college and worked hard for it. If you want it enough, you’ll work for it. Sorry you’ve never been motivated about something like that in your life.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 14h

?? can you get off your high horse lol i’m thousands of dollars in debt. do you really think the majority of people are paying for college out of pocket?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 14h

Yeah most jobs barely allow you a roof over your head and food on the table unfortunately

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 14h

he does not have a job

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 14h

I don’t think I will because you acted like I was privileged because I’m going to college even though I have paid for it all myself and worked for it. Stay making excuses.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 14h

i think you replied to the wrong person i never said any of that

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 14h

Having a job is better than no job at 26

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 14h

oh he’s a bum fs

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 14h

How did you afford $10k plus tuition per year as a teen? On top of housing, food and other bills? Girl I literally have two degrees what are you taking about. I’m in massive debt over it. Not everyone wants tens of thousands of dollars of debt

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 14h

Yeah not everyone wants to go into debt like we did when the result is often not much of a higher paying job than non degreed workers, how hard is that to grasp Who said it was out of pocket, you literally still have to pay it at some point and then some

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 14h

i paid off my debt i did have it. My whole point was i’m just thinking he’s a bum because he doesn’t go to college, he has no way shape or form has tried to save to even try to go to college. And he doesn’t even have a job now. so exactly what is he doing

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 14h

You’re privileged for using classist rhetoric and logic and looking down on ppl less fortunate than you. Not for going to college. I went to college too

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 14h

so I’m privileged for thinking a 26-year-old should be going to college or have a job?? sounds to me like you’re just a bum yourself

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 14h

I guess that answers my question. I should just drop him and date in my own tax bracket

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 14h

You mentioned nothing about a job until later, I was referring simply to your take on college in the op and first response? It was very elitist Ive been employed consistently since i was 17 and literally have two degrees but keep using classist language

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 14h

you? when you acted like people are paying thousands of dollars in money they have saved and not supplementing that with loans? yeah if someone doesn’t go to college they should have some other plan, like trade school or SOMETHING. it’s not classist if someone doesn’t want to date another person bc they’re not going to school and not working and making excuses about that

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 14h

Yes for his sake don’t date ppl you look down on

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 14h

I never acted like that as someone who has loans myself 😭 not everyone wants to take on debt at 18 years old like how many times do i have to repeat that. I’d say a lot of those ppl made better financial decisions than I did with my loans And yeah I never said they shoudnt do something else, again I was referring simply to the elitist rhetoric op was engaging in before she said anything about anything else

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 14h

sure you didn’t lol

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 14h

Like I’d LOVE to get my masters. I love school and my field of study. Why don’t I go back? Bc I don’t want to take on even more loans! Could I in theory go back if I wanted to take on more loans? Of course. But I don’t want to go into further debt…. This is why a lot of Americans don’t go to college 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 14h

okay so what’s the alternative? working low paying jobs forever? yes it’s a lot of money in loans but the whole point of college is that you use that to network and get experience to get a job to pay those loans back. i personally thought about that a lot before going to school so i went to a cc for my first two year and have no debt from that, i went to a school in my state so i could get lower tuition, and i applied for every scholarship i could and lowered the cost even more. i also made sure

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 14h

to get my degree in something that would quality for pslf, which i’m currently in, which will leave me debt free after ten years. there are options available to make it easier to pay and it’s no classist to point that out

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 14h

Most everyone in my office who makes more money than me didn’t go to college. You sound young and still in school and not in the real world. Depending on your field, as you enter the real world you realize how maybe there were other better financial decisions when it comes to schooling and jobs. Not getting a college degree doesn’t mean you’re automatically in a low paying job 😭 hell half of younger ppl with a degree work in retail or at a restaurant for crying out loud

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 14h

i have a full time job rn 😭 how do you think i qualified for loan forgiveness? just because you regret your choices when it comes to your degree doesn’t mean everyone else does. i put a lot of thought into my future and thankfully it’s paying off now. good for the people in your office who didn’t go to school and were able to make more than you. idk how much that is so who knows if it’s even comparable to a living wage but clearly they did something right that you didn’t

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 14h

I don’t regret my choices. I loved college and it was an important stage of life for me that shaped me into who I am today. What I regret and despise is capitalism. How I have to go into debt in order to further my education. I wish tuition was at least affordable if not free. I wish we prioritized education in this country over profit. But we don’t. So being in the real world and meeting all different kinds of ppl making various levels of income, I realized college isn’t the ONLY path

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 13h

Like I was raised to believe. That there’s all sort of avenues. And I don’t look down on ppl who didn’t attend college. That was my whole point. The way op was speaking about someone who didn’t go to college. That’s what I take issue with. The judgement and moral superiority many who have degrees have. As a socialist, I despite that kind of anti social elitist language and perspective. That’s literally all

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 13h

Oh sorry I’m not making top dollar being like a year into the field, Jesus Christ. This is exactly the condescending elitism I’m referring to. Looking down on ppl whose life didn’t turn out perfectly like yours. I’m so glad you’re so so so smart and so much better than everyone bc you went to college and had proper guidance when you were a child

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 13h

when did i ever say college was the ONLY path? in general it’s a lot harder to make money in a lot of fields if you don’t have a degree, but it’s not impossible. also are you joking? you cannot get on my ass about being condescending when you were talking about how i’m not in the real world and so obviously still in school. sorry you don’t like it when someone matches your energy ig. and thank you, i spent a lot of time learning MYSELF how to navigate that bc im one of the first people in my

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 13h

family to go to school. from your earlier comments and again with how condescending you were to me about how i’d realize i made bad financial decisions decisions i thought you were projecting. my bad if that wasn’t true

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 13h

Bc of the way you talk about college and the job field, you’re clearly extremely out of touch. Your response to me saying “maybe not everyone wants to go into debt at 18” was “so your solution is to just have a low paying job for forever?” You’re the one who equated a lack of a degree to low paying jobs and I just corrected you that the real world doesn’t work that way?

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 13h

My energy = advocating for those who don’t come from privileged backgrounds Your energy = looking down on ppl for not following your path exactly But yes you’re just matching my energy. Sure

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 13h

I never told you or even implied you made a bad financial decision what 😭 I was simply pointing out that everyone’s circumstances are different and for some it IS a bad financial decision so stop being so god damned judgmental bc everyone is different and comes from a different background holy shit

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 13h

okay then what’s this?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 13h

tbh yeah i was mostly just thinking about my own field when i made that comment bc it’s pretty difficult to get a good paying job without a degree. like i said before trade school is a good option if someone doesn’t want to go to college and i knowww electricians/other trade workers probably make more than me. but for MOST PEOPLE if they aren’t going into a trade it’s GENERALLY very difficult to find a job that provides enough to support yourself

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 13h

Yes, note the “depending on your field” and the “MAYBE there are better financial decisions” like community college or not taking on loans until you had a steady income first or until you can get more scholarship money

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 13h

respectfully you don’t know anything about my background and it’s really not your place to say whether or not i come from a place of privilege lol

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 13h

holy fuck i know! bc that’s what i did! i literally said in the comment you replied to that i went to community college to save money and i got scholarships!

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 13h
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Anonymous replying to -> #4 13h

Yes I know and that’s ALL I’m referring to 😭 I never said never going to college was always a better financial decision I simply said for some ppl there are better financial decisions than going to a 4 year university and taking out loans straight after high school

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 13h

Yes im aware of what you said

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 13h

clearly not based on your other comments

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 13h

I don’t know your background but I know how you talk about ppl that don’t make the same decisions you do and that’s all I need to know

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 13h

then why would you say i’d realize i should have made better financial decisions if you knew i ALREADY made those choices? why tell me i sound young and like im not in the real world if you didn’t want to sound condescending?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 13h

weird i was going to say the same thing about you

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 13h

Literally the whole time I’ve been pointing out that every person and their background is different and therefore may not have the same access to schooling (an experience different than mine bc I went to college at 18) and all you’ve done is mock me for not doing exactly what you did, what are you talking about 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 13h

I never said YOU’D realize there were better financial choices, what?? I was speaking in general and for other ppl 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 13h

You keep thinking im talking about you for some reason when im talking in general. Like I have the whole time. Thinking of the possibilities of other people’s material conditions and advocating for them instead of calling them bums

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 13h

ohh right i was supposed to read your mind and know you were using the general ‘you’ instead of referring to me when you were in a direct convo with me and immediately after you insulted me by saying i wasn’t in the real world. that’s 100% my fault sorry about that

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 13h

Obv in the context and structuring of the sentence I was referring to the general “you” like I have the whole time??

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 13h

right what a crazy assumption to make when we’re having a conversation. again that’s my bad i can’t read your mind to know when you’re just talking about me (like when you insulted me) and when you’re speaking generally (which is retroactively whenever you want i guess)

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 13h

okay lol

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 13h

i’m not going through this a third time lol believe whatever you want about me <3

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 12h

That’s just how I talk, I always use the general “you” when having a conversation with someone. Esp on the internet. tbh never even once considered that you’d interpret that as a direct attack otherwise I would have clarified that in my original statement

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