again not saying whatās real or not real. but the thing abt hollywood is us āregularā ppl canāt just take everything at face value from someone in the industry. you literally never know what or who is lying underneath. sure she can say something with her own mouth. but sheās also an actress im sure sheās used to being told to speak some lines and make it convincing. ofc or she couldāve just done the soap thing herself. but damn iām soo terminally offline now i didnāt even know what that was
yall should try it sometime instead of worrying sm abt random celebs. esp women when men have done many weird and scandalous things and donāt get nearly the same scrutiny that im sure she does now. the girl is young, pretty, and in a very competitive & misogynistic industry. but in the end who cares abt her she doesnāt know you and you donāt even know her besides whatever persona she created for yall to see
oh my god girl get a grip iām sorry. what is she supposed to do? not exist? be born different so sheās not conventionally attractive to make you feel good? not feel good abt herself and looks bc others donāt? i get it beauty standards can be shit and can harm girls. but also sheās just some random lady and sheās doing her job. like i said maybe try staying offline sm if something like that upsets you sm
oh brother. you are upset and it is also your opinion lmfao. but sheās not āsupposedā to do anything but what she wants (ofc like i mentioned abt thereās stuff abt hollywood where we just dk going behind the scenes). she has good genes! sheās still a pretty woman! doesnāt mean a woman who isnāt āwhite, blonde, blue eyes, blah blahā isnāt also pretty and talk abt their good genes if she wants. and you DO know that actresses and actors donāt write the scripts for the things they act inā¦right?
iām slow at processing wordplay donāt mind hahaha. but itās literally just silly wordplay on the actress modeling the jeans being attractive and advertising jeans. you should be okay. i do understand the hurt of beauty standards. but we should also start maybe learning that one beauty doesnāt take away from the other instead of outright thinking someone should ignore theirs for the sake of others idk thatās just me lol
the wordplay they used is referencing an old AE add w brooke schofield which in itself was controversial bc she was 14 giving an 8th grade science lesson. sydneyās was just weird especially yhe āmy genes are blueā just bc you donāt think doesnāt mean there isnāt undertones and dog whistles. especially in trumps america and AE having a history w being racist and discriminatory
girl what ad are you talking abt bc iāve tried searching for an article or something that talks abt someone named brooke schofield and the ad and the connection. no mention of anything to do with that sort of add. i did see an ad w brooke schofield, but that was for calvin klein. and absolutely yes that ad is problematic bc of her age. but there was nothing abt good jeans. nothing abt any connection. so like is the internet creating misinfo to stir drama or ? and well noā¦bc the jeans are blue..
I did my senior project on Calvin Klein Brooke shields was a young actress/model who was the āmost beautiful girl on earthā as young as 16 she was sexualized in a CK ad. She was sexualized through her whole career. One commercial sheās putting on jeans and talking about āgenesā and evolution and selective mating. Literally what Sydney was referring to
yesā¦.i said the calvin commercial was fucked and that other one is too. but uhm you do know that genes being a funny wordplay for jeans isnāt exactly the mostly wow radical idea, right? lollll. like if the only reference you think there is is the fact that thereās a joke abt genes meaning jeans, with literally nothing else, something that is so basic, then i feel bad for how much time you look deeply into things that arenāt there. there is no evidence anywhere that the two are linked besides
again, the āgood genesā bit wasnāt abt her blue eyes and blonde hair. it was literally a joke abt her boobies miss girl. her eyes = her boobs. blue reference bc she DOES have blue eyes, so it fits with good BLUE jeans. not meaning her blue eyes give her good genes. yall literally creating think pieces on multiple jokes in an add to reference boobs and jeans lmfao. sure feel how you want but doesnāt mean yall are stressing too much on something that is not actually this huge think piece
i literally did look it up online thatās what iāve been doing and said myself lmfao. not my fault you told me the wrong name. i never said YOU were. i said if you saw something that should be easy to find but wasnāt (again bc you gave the wrong name) then itās probably some misinfo you found somewhere. but do you think any tv show, ad, movie that makes the same basic joke used many times before bc itās basic and unoriginal then they are linked lol?
the problem was sexualizing a minor at all making multiple commercials doing so. you say thereās āno wayā but shows and movies have made genes/jeans jokes in the past itās so unoriginal and basic. im sure they wouldnāt greenlight an ad that is the exact setup bc that is a link. but an unoriginal joke made in an awful ad isnt gonna ban companies from using the most obvious wordplay for the use of what they sell. thereās literally a company called āgood genesā itās so unoriginal and obvious to use
i looked it up and thereās literally one brand called Good Genes and another one too called The Good Genes like be so fr it is so used. it is not a hush hush thing to use bc of the CK thing and isnāt banned from use in HW or anywhere. ppl are not looking at that Sweeney ad and going āaha! itās a link to this!ā besides ppl who stretch so hard im worried for their back. like come on itās so tiredly usedš
Good genes is a Jean Brand yeah. But it doesnāt have anything to do w this conversation. One could say ur argument is a stretch as well. Because brand name has nothing to do w it. Sexual advertisement for jeans using the definition of genes is the comparison we are drawing. Also when looking up the advertisement for the CK ad there are comments talking about the AE ad
yeah bc again some of yall reach. with more research, there was a Gap ad in the early 2000s that talked abt āgood genes run in the family.ā is that a dogwhistle? is that specifically referencing brooke shields? i just think itās worn to be like good genes and family bc the whole family wears these jeans blah blah. shieldsā commercial is worded much differently. just bc yall forced everyone to see an old ad that was bad bc of the use of sexualizing a minor so now thatās why ppl are being like
āsydney sweeney and brooke shields is connected!ā doesnāt mean it actually is. no matter how many ways you twist and turn yourselves there are objectively way more actual bad things happening besides an ad thatās like genes are this scientific thing, i have good genes ! (jeans). itās nazism! when in reality itās boobies and word wordplay like i have been saying bahahah. like pls yall are rlly gonna need to do something to take a breather before you fully lose your hinges and start
accusing random shit of being something itās entirely not. like iām genuinely afraid for the way yall are heading bc youāre becoming just as bad as some right wing conspiracy theorists i see omg. hollywood has many many issues but i promise not every small thing has this crazy connection
Also ādoesnāt mean it isā it also doesnāt mean it isnāt. But you canāt sit here and say YOU CANT MAKE CONNECTIONS TO MEDIA!!! When you absolutely can. And I know right wing conspiracies. My parents are right wing flat earthers who drink borax and take horse dewormer. Me saying Sydneyās commercial is reminiscent of a controversial CK ad isnāt a conspiracy theory. Itās analyzing media
iām not saying you canāt. you can do what you want. just saying that maybe donāt make yourself go insane bc you see a pretty woman who happens to be white and blonde talking abt good genes, a lot of it referencing how ppl acknowledge having tbh rlly nice boobs, and happens to have unoriginal and tired word play used in OTHER jean companies as well (gap add that talked abt family and genes). what happened with brooke is fucked. but sydney is an adult and attractive woman. we can still acknowledge
attractiveness even if itās from a white woman like her. itās not telling ppl other women are not pretty or donāt have good genes. also many conservatives also go crazy āconnecting mediaā and what they mean secretly (itās the devil! jews! whatever!). i just mean yall are gonna drive yourself insane over something that is seriously not a big deal
okay? so again sydney is an adult woman. she is sexy and she is okay with showing that. it being sexual bc she is sexy and, like ive stressed, sm of the same warn, tired, wordplay and usage of scientific facts of genes being good and using it for jeans that is used over and over and over doesnāt mark this distinct link you think it is.
lol i got confused with you and the literal two other people in the replies chill. getting confused and making a mistake based off of previous interactions ive already had isnāt exactly crazy. im not the one sitting here thinking some random jean ad is some huge insidious issue when thereās actual issues to worry abt in the worldš i only type sm bc thatās how i talk with everything. due to not being able to communicate my thoughts with a few sentences. i need to express details as it helps ME
also one more, but i didnāt realize how many commercials Sydney is in for this campaign omg! finally found the one where it is like the Brooke one, instead of only being able to read the lines, so i agree that one itself can be troubling as i see how sydney is also putting on jeans! i agree good arguments can be made on the issues tributing such an ad! many āiconicā moments were definitely not good w younger girls, so we get tributes to popular, but bad moments in media :/ unfortunately the
success that jeans campaign ultimately had then may be the marketing idea behind that specific ad, but it should have been more deeply evaluated for the controversy that it had for the age of the actress. the only āgoodā thing abt that part is that sydney is an adult so her more sexual nature in addition to the wordplay on jeans is allowed. the marketing for that one is definitely understandably controversial!
i mean communication as in the words that go back and forth between individuals in general. bc debate is a form of communication too! but, like i said, if i have a point such this is my structure of communicating my argument of the campaign: the history/use of similar ones, the history/use of the phrase overall, and how that phrase is being used in this context, how it does/doesnāt conflate to what is being argued back, and how i believe some arguments are an overreach due to the way social
media works in spiraling into a mass conviction of hidden ideas and meanings that are an overreaction and the way ppl lose their minds and get enraged over it while it may not be healthy for them. itās to explain my overall one point detail by detail bc i communicate, in general, in a pattern or such so i can even process the thoughts i have on this topic and what i am going to say abt it. that is all. it usually requires more than word counts allow! š¤©