y’all have no critical thinking skills, it’s just not something the government should be involved in -signed someone who was cheated on for almost a year

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jesus christ how is “the government shouldn’t police our personal relationships” a sign that i’m a cheater

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yall gotta learn to separate your emotions about cheating from a reasoned interpretation of public policy and the law. and stop projecting that everyone who disagrees with you is the man who cheated on you

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not everything that is bad should be illegal. letting the government police personal disputes is dangerous for everyone involved

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yes and that was entirely a good idea that always turned out well for women and queer people and non christian’s

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police force is not the only option for punishment in society and what you’re advocating is a dangerous expansion of police power. the punishment for cheating is that your partner will probably break up with you, your friends and family will view you differently, and if you were married, you’re getting the short end of the stick in a divorce proceeding

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it’s not fair. police power does not make things more fair

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like i said, gotta separate that emotional feeling about cheaters from a reasonable policy interpretation

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girl i ruined his life i didn’t need him to go to prison. i’m not trusting an inherently racist judicial system to deliver interpersonal justice for something like cheating, you’re being daft.

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Anonymous #10 17w

i assume it’s fake but i don’t care enough to check lol

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Anonymous #11 17w

this would lay a VERY dangerous precedent and provide legitimate legal grounds to overturn ALL of these very important court decisions (don’t get me started on why overturning just roe was a VERY BAD THING) and also start a very very BAD trend of creating law and policy to dictate other PRIVATE areas of people’s lives

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what if someone sets you up and lies? i’m all for it being civil violation but i do not trust expanding police power in this country

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Anonymous #2 17w

literally my first thought. i can easily see how this would go south. i do not trust the people in this country to have enough integrity to not to make fake allegations and purposefully try to derail people’s lives

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Anonymous #13 17w

Yep!!

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Anonymous #2 17w

With how ai is going rn, I could easily see someone making fake messages, fake voice recordings, fake pictures, etc to get their partner wrongfully arrested. E

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Yeah that’s the plan but look where morals has taken a good chunk of the population…

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Congrats buddy you really educated me there🤗 how many good moral people in CHURCHES have committed acts that are awful? How many others hiding behind a fake persona of high morals (to both others and themselves) hide bad morals? All children who went to first grade are taught not to steal, cheat, etc. but there’s also a thing called FREE WILL that tempts people away from that. All I’m saying is, free will and temptation to do bad things is combatted pretty well when there’s actual consequence

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Anonymous #9 17w

But according to you if you “teach them good morals” that will no doubt keep them from doing anything bad huh. Lmk how ur kids turn out if that’s all u think you need to do!

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Anonymous #9 17w

U realize if instill a strong moral code, sense of self, and empathy into your children they will be able to resist the temptation to do bad things! The consequences of cheating are: feeling shitty about yourself, hurting someone, being broken up with, judgement from family and peers. Just because there is not a legal consequence doesn’t mean there aren’t social consequences. Obviously this isn’t foolproof, nothing is, but even having legal consequences doesn’t stop people from doing bad things

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Anonymous #9 17w

There is a reason that murder, cannibalism, incest, etc are widely unaccepted in modern society. Because we are taught that they are wrong, morally! Even before modern law prohibited it. But in cultures where those things are normal (usually very rural communities in un-colonized areas these days), they dont have the same visceral reaction because they have, surprise, different morals! If infidelity became something that was taught to be as wrong as these things, it wouldn’t happen as often.

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Anonymous #13 17w

burden of proof in criminal law is “beyond a reasonable doubt.” it’s intentionally vague due to the scope of crimes in criminal law, so it widely comes down to the judge and jury. which is problematic in instances like this where, like you said, everyone has different standards of what cheating is, so it would make it nearly impossible to set legal precedent in prosecuting

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Brother please. I’m a faithful woman who’s been accepted into grad school and has lived a great life considering all obstacles faced. How you took my joking comment and turned it into your own spiteful agenda really speaks to your own insufferable existence. No person is perfect and everyone has flaws and bad choices, which ur saint-like ass has deemed makes them a “bad person.” Throw the first stone then if you’ve never succumbed to a bad choice bc of your own desire. Also, clearly

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Anonymous #9 17w

Social consequences, feeling bad, etc. doesn’t stop people from making bad choices because the reward feels better to them, which doesn’t make someone a sociopath, as you put it so black-and-white. You have your categories dished out nicely to anyone who has one trait, and I’m sure being around you being so judgmental isn’t an experience I would put myself through. Maybe you’re the kind of Christian that causes people to feel exiled, so I hope u find some chill one day

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Anonymous #11 17w

I never said it will stop it all entirely, I mean clearly murders and other crimes still happen regardless of law. And to respond to the second response you posted, treating infidelity as serious as other crimes is what my comment was alluding to (in a joking way which has now instead caused a bitter debate with the other lovely commenter in this thread)

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Anonymous #9 17w

I know your initial comment wasn’t inherently serious, but the way you responded to it prompted my input. I know that creating laws doesn’t stop crime, and I know you never said that, which I acknowledged in my comment as well. But the way you alluded that the ONLY way to stop bad behavior is to criminalize it, and that teaching morals does nothing is what I found problematic

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I’m usually pretty good with sarcasm and I also couldn’t really tell if they were fr or not. I think the emoji insinuated some level of “satire” which is the only reason I didn’t think they were totally serious. Until they like doubled down in their replies😭😭😭

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Anonymous #11 17w

Well you can also add that to the things I never said then bc I never said it was the ONLY way😀 I “doubled down” on an argument that the other guy started on a whole other topic which was morals and what makes someone good vs. bad, plus their own hateful judgment on my own character which was very unwarranted. Now that they said they’re an English major I have a better idea on what I’m dealing with though lmao

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Anonymous #9 17w

The word “alluded” quite literally means you didn’t say those exact words but you definitely were implying it by saying that teaching morals does nothing unless there’s punishment involved. you also were the one turned the conversation into an argument. Reread your first reply. Add to that list being a hypocrite because you’re also “judging their character” with that whole English major comment😂 I really don’t know what you’re trying to accomplish here. Don’t start fights u can’t finish

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LMAO so valid

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A very unfavorable divorce is punishment, we already have mechanisms for this, government should be involved in our personal relationships unless we let them; civil affairs should not be criminalized, we have civil courts for that Once you criminalize something it means you don’t get any say on whether it’s brought to court anymore. If I have kids with my husband and he cheats on me, I don’t want it to mean my kids grow up with their dad in prison

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Anonymous #2 17w

One person chooses to turn on the relationship? This is talking about criminalizing it, neither person needs to turn on the relationship, someone completely unrelated could just tell the cops and get them rounded up

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Thanks for highlighting my response but if u look legit right above you will see that YOU are the one who brought up morals. Real selective in ur own argument

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Anonymous #11 17w

Well considering I didn’t say that AND I didn’t imply that at all, unless that’s what you wanted to take from it that’s all on you. And no, me responding to the first comment doesn’t mean I “started the argument” as that would start from the person who responded to the comment, not the person who makes the comment. Is everyone else who comments on a post starting an argument? Bc according to ur flawed logic that would be true. And my English major comment isn’t judging their character it’s under

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Anonymous #9 17w

Understanding the personality and argumentative style I’m dealing with. If u want to see a real demeaning example of judging character u can go read where they claimed I would “shoplift from target” and that I “don’t know who I am or what life I’m living”

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Anonymous #11 17w

“Don’t start fights you can’t finish” is comical when I didn’t start the fight that yall imagined outta thin air from a joking comment. Bunch of bitter assholes who take life too seriously on a MADE UP situation of making cheating illegal. Such a waste of time, but unfortunately I’m not gonna just take a couple randos dogging on my character for no reason

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