Anonymous slutty_anakin 4w

as someone who now has to be an adult with no money and no resources no support bc I grew up poor asf, I don’t agree💀 I absolutely think we should shame poor people for having children, or at least the ones TRYING to

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Anonymous slutty_anakin 4w

I feel like you are deliberately ignoring the obvious point of this post so you can talk more

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Anonymous #6 4w

bean soup theory

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Anonymous OP 4w

bro what

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i see, valid but also i haven’t even gone through this so im not thinking “what about me” im thinking “what about everyone else” cuz you never know people’s circumstances

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Anonymous #6 4w

I agree with what you said, there is certain circumstances which it’s not fair to judge

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Anonymous OP 4w

indeed, and thanks for letting me know what that meant lmao 😭

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I feel like its different to say everyone DESERVES to be able to have a child if they so desire, but the child doesn’t deserve to be brought into such a bad situation. This country is already scary enough to bring a child into, and knowing that you will not be able to give the child a good life or even an acceptable one should be enough for you to not have one to start with because it’s such an obviously bad choice no matter how bad the gov is. you KNOW the gov is bad.

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Anonymous slutty_anakin 4w

slutty anakin with the based take

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Anonymous slutty_anakin 4w

Ty because why the fuck have I seen so many eugenicist takes in the past couple years

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Anonymous OP 4w

We should also prob point out that poor people also have more unplanned pregnancy due to lack of family planning resources . . .

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Anonymous OP 4w

Like sure I wouldn't be trying for kids if I couldn't afford to support them but people have kids accidents happen and weather or not you think it's right or wrong poor children will exist so maybe we need up our social programs and fix our broken system rather than blame people for the system that is built to go against them

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I think it's kind of dumb to exclude these circumstances though because it makes up a lot of the reasons

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Anonymous #10 4w

it’s not dumb to exclude certain circumstances if they aren’t the point of the conversation

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Anonymous OP 4w

Roe v Wade was overturned and birth control fails. It’s not bean soup, it is reality

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Anonymous #12 4w

They pertain to the point tho. You're leaving out key determining factors so that's just a bad argument then

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Anonymous #10 4w

no they don’t. if the topic is ‘don’t have kids you can’t afford’ that so obviously doesn’t include those who are raped

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Anonymous #12 4w

i think it’s relevant to the topic personally because at that point you can’t choose whether you have the child or not

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Anonymous #6 4w

and that’s exactly why it’s not relevant. bc the topic is about those who do know that they aren’t able to afford children and choose to have them anyway. not about those who don’t have a choice

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Anonymous #12 4w

You cannot examine this though without examining the systemic factors that contribute to the issue. I'd also argue that people who are in deep poverty are not trying to have kids as much as you think they are

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Anonymous slutty_anakin 4w

Yes we should push harder to support all children we should also encourage people to aim for responsible & informed creation. Higher family counts in improvised people is often the result of lack of education, financial literacy, & also misinformation / lack of access to birth control. This then results in poorer living conditions for the children being created due to higher living expenses that put more strain on families and government funding keeping them improvished.

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Exactly. I agree with you 100%. Children aren’t a right. And I’m not saying there aren’t people who come from low income families that can’t make it and be successful/happy. BUT, they’ll 100% always have it harder to some degree & in some aspect because they come from so little. It’s not ideal. And it’s just common sense. Sometimes adoption centers for ANIMALS won’t even let you take one home if they feel you can’t care for it. A HUMAN child has 1000 more needs

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That’s not what the post said though. It said that poor people shouldn’t have children. “That’s it.”

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Blaming it on character count is crazy work be fr 😭 especially when you just clarified by adding two words.

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Anonymous #9 4w

Spend that energy you’re using to judge poor people on condemning the system that forces them to have larger families that they can’t afford. The “poor people shouldn’t have kids” takes are not productive for anyone but neoliberals who frame systemic issues and childhood hunger as “personal responsibility”

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Anonymous #9 4w

ain’t a character count thing, it’s that you’re choosing to be argumentative when the actual meaning is very clear and you just want to whine about “well what about everyone you’re NOT talking about” bc you can’t understand context clues

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Read what I said again: you just added two words (choose to) and it fixed most of the problem. But again, I don’t really think it was even a productive point in the first place because this is ultimately a systemic problem, not a matter of poor people being morally bad or whatever.

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Anonymous #4 4w

Why are you talking to me about character count? I’m not even the one who brought it up? Also there are no context clues to be “understood” here. The post deadass just said poor people shouldn’t have kids.

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And so what? You just came here to shame people then?

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