Anonymous #1 16w

Yeah I’ve seen parents just not care and when someone points it out they make the excuse of that’s just how kids are

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Anonymous #1 16w

My cousin’s daughter got all up in my other cousins personal space and her mom acted like she was just being super cute and that everyone just LOVES being around her daughter even though her daughter is super annoying

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Anonymous #4 16w

That is why they have public playgrounds where kids can learn to socialize there and then once they are comfortable there they can be introduced to other places

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Anonymous OP 16w

i mean sure, in theory. but in reality those are two completely different environments with different expectations. not to mention that a lot of parents can’t just leave their kids behind and go out in public. people need to grocery shop, use public transportation, go to appointments, and go to the bank, etc and not everyone has somewhere else to leave the kids while they do

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Anonymous #4 16w

Honestly I don’t think this post is saying anything different than you are. OP’s not saying that kids shouldn’t exist in public spaces, just that their parents should parent them. I know there’s some people that literally get upset at children for existing (especially babies) but I’m not getting that vibe from OP

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Anonymous #5 16w

yeah tbh my issue was less with op’s post and more with the comments saying kids basically don’t belong in public up until op responded to me basically agreeing with that point

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Anonymous #5 16w

i don’t think op is on the extreme end either, but they’re definitely giving “kids are only allowed in public if they’re going to be well behaved and calm all the time” which is just not the case for any child

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Anonymous #4 16w

My point was that people these days do not care how their children act in public. If a parent doesn’t want to parent their kids, don’t take them to a nice restaurant etc. there is a time and place for kids to run around and scream and that is not at a grocery store

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Anonymous #4 16w

Two months ago I was on a flight and this mom and dad had three kids. Their kids started freaking out when the flight attendant told them they had to be sitting in their seat during take off. The kids were so noisy about it and neither parent tried to do anything so the whole plane had to sit and listen to their children. Even the flight attendants were pissed cause the parents did nothing to get their kids in their seats

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Anonymous #5 16w

Yeah I’m completely fine with kids existing. I just don’t like it when parents don’t take care of their kids and then it becomes everyone else’s problem

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Anonymous #4 16w

Yeah playground-only is a bit out of touch 😭 and it drives me crazy when people get upset abt kids on airplanes, esp babies/toddlers. How do they expect families to get to their destinations lmaooo + there’s a huge difference between a restless child during an hour-long dinner and a restless child stuck in an airplane seat for multiple hours. I’m 23 and I struggle to not start bouncing off the walls on flights 💀

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Anonymous #5 16w

As someone who grew up flying, my mom found ways to distract us. It’s really not hard. Also, the kids were not babies. The age ranges were 4 to 8.5. Not like a 4 month old

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Anonymous OP 16w

Have you *asked* your mom if it was hard? My mom was able to keep me and my siblings entertained too but she’d tell you it’s a struggle like no other, especially for working moms or single moms or after any long layovers

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Anonymous OP 16w

my mom had to drag 4 children everywhere she went. it was miserable for her. she had to leash us and we still would run away. there’s only so much you can do to placate children in an environment where they’re bored like a grocery store or airport. even less if you’re there to perform a task that’s taking some of your attention. children have to go to public spaces and we have to give parents grace as they try their best to keep them as under control as possible

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Anonymous OP 16w

you’re right that some parents aren’t trying, but that’s not always evident just thru the kid’s behavior. chaos is what kids do and that little glimpse into a bad moment shouldn’t convince you that children don’t belong in public places with their parents

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Anonymous OP 16w

i also roll my eyes at any sort of “people these days don’t want to do x” statement

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Anonymous #4 16w

Outside of this context, I think those statements are often pretty funny because they’re just so short sighted. “People these days don’t want to have to program a VCR” okay?? We also don’t want to use an abacus. That’s how the advancement of technology works. My kids will likely never touch a tape recorder, the same way I’ve never attempted writing by chiseling a stone tablet. Life moves on.

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Anonymous #4 16w

I guess that it’s kinda the same in this scenario too. Kids probably weren’t as much of a public disturbance however many years ago because they’d be left home alone or get beaten for speaking out of turn. It’s not that “parents these days don’t want to raise their children correctly”, it’s just that the method of negligence now effects the nearby adults rather than stunting the child’s brain development

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Anonymous #5 16w

i think it also has a little to do with the wealth gap in our country widening. childcare is less and less affordable and people are left with no choice but to drag their kids on errands. and yeah technology plays a part but before ipads they stuck kids in front of tvs and before tvs they just left them to their own devices. neglectful parents have always existed

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Anonymous #5 16w

Actually yeah she has made comments about children and how they are raised today and has said that she would have never allowed my siblings and me to behave that way in public

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Anonymous #6 16w

I’ve noticed a lot of them don’t even want to be parents. They just had kids cause their friends were having kids and now they are stuck with them. It’s sad, but it’s what I’ve been seeing. 4 and 5 can yap all they want and sure that can be their experiences, but I know teachers who have been teaching for decades and they have also stated how bad kids are getting lately

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I have a friend who has been a teacher for 7 years and it got so bad she quit last year. She said the students were bad and the parents were worse. She had a mom yell at her about a grade she gave their kid and told her she had to go back and give her a higher grade

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Oh my gosh someone actually said that?? That is crazy. I mean I’ve seen parents at the zoo let their kids climb on the rocks and stuff even though there are signs saying don’t do that and then when their kid gets injured they get mad at the zoo

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I had a math teacher who told me the reason she chose to teach at the community college is cause she didn’t want to help a little kid blow their nose, the 5th through 8th are all bullies, and then in high school she was afraid of giving a bad grade cause she had a teacher tell her a student committed due to getting a bad grade and she didn’t want to be their final straw

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Ah true. Yeah parents think their kids can do no wrong

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Yeah I feel bad cause I know most teachers don’t want to give a bad grade but they can’t give everyone an A

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