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Apparently hot take- being a gay man does not give you the right to disrespect women. You are still a man. Stop calling us bitches, stop hitting us, stop saying we are sluts, stop saying vaginas are disgusting. You are still a man
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Anonymous 21h

Ong some of these gay men or even trans men will be the most misogynistic people and it never adds up to me😭

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Anonymous 20h

real we have to stop treating being gay like it’s some sort of immunity. you’re male before you’re queer.

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Anonymous 21h

gay men can be so much more toxic than straight men fr

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Anonymous 20h

And racist. White gay men need to know their place

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Anonymous 20h

They wanna be a girl so bad but be actin like vaginas are gross… make it make since

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Anonymous 20h

I always find it annoying when they’re like “I’m just one of the girls”. No you’re not, none of my girlfriends or even straight guy friends treat me like that

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Anonymous 19h

This is so true. Yes girl they don’t like this but it it’s ONE HUNDRED PERCENT TRUE!! At the end of the day they are STILL MEN! I don’t care if u have feminine attributes u still are BIOLOGICALLY DIFFERENT THAN US! The gays (not all) but lots know how to play their cards….

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Anonymous 23h

aa

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Anonymous 17h

I was reading a gay subreddit one time and the vitriol against women in there was genuinely insane

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Anonymous 19h

stop using our bathrooms!!

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Anonymous 19h

They think they’re prettier than us 😩

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Anonymous 9h

I hate also how some gay men get away with being rude in general because of their flamboyancy. People will just think oh they are just being quirky and funny, when if it was their friend who was straight that said it, it would be a different story

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Anonymous 16h

Also if you’re a man, get out of this group. It isn’t for you

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Anonymous 12h

Lesbian women call men disgusting all the time. Are you going to tell them to stop saying penises are disgusting?

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Anonymous 15h

I have numerous male friends that have been groped by gay men when they went to a gay bar with me, they are still men no matter what

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Anonymous 5h

As a gay man myself i AGREE 1000%

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Anonymous 15h

1. Hitting is wrong no matter what 2. It’s there first amendment right 🤷🏽‍♀️

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Anonymous 7h

I love the transphobes downvoting me because they know I’m right and think their bullshit is backed by anything. If you’re transphobic, chew on sand.

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Anonymous 5h

Notice how I didn’t say anything mean or rude lol

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Anonymous 11h

Yeah but they’re like so sassy and slay (this is a joke I fully agree with u)

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Anonymous 11h

Stop thinking were automatically besties and that you can just touch me??

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Anonymous 6h

I’m convinced that the reason certain gay men think they are above women is because they haven’t dismantled the influence the patriarchy had on them. Like sweetie, go try and be a top bitch among men, bc we don’t do that here. It’s like they realize “oh I can push these ones around now because THEY are helpless instead of me”. Try me bitch, I’ll throw down

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Anonymous 14h

here come all these violent misogynists 😭

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Anonymous 14h

Tyyyy!

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Anonymous 13h

Period

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Anonymous 10h

“Stop hitting us” 😭😂

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Anonymous 5h

This entire comment section is just people arguing over who can be the better victim.

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Anonymous 11h

Gay men be calling each other bitches and sluts,

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Anonymous 8h

But they don’t like vaginas soooo

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Anonymous 14h

Are we just trying to hate everyone. This culture war is so exhausting. I’ve never seen anyone think like this IRL.

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Anonymous 14h

Holy sexist, not just OP but all the comments. You made this unnecessarily gendered as hell. You put forth the narrative that’s its cause they’re a man it’s not okay. If they were a woman it would be? It shouldn’t be okay in general. It kinda seems like you just don’t like men. No need to attack an entire group, because you’re uncomfortable with their sex.

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Anonymous 15h

Idk about the last one being a huge issue I’ve heard lesbians say dicks look nasty and no one bats an eye

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Anonymous 20h

gay men hate women 🙂‍↔️

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Anonymous 15h

There’s nobody more sexist than lesbian women. Enough of the self victimizing 🤣🤣

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Anonymous 16h

Bwahahahahahahahaha

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Anonymous 17h

Gender wars 🤮

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Anonymous 21h

what the fuck does that even mean

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Anonymous 21h

What is “acting like a man”

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Anonymous 21h

Sweetie we are literally your blueprint. Everything you do is based off of us. Know YOUR fucking role.

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Anonymous 20h

Is today your first day of having braincells? You’ll get used to them.

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Anonymous 20h

case in point

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 20h

Especially when they steal aave like it’s candy from a baby

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Anonymous replying to -> desert_pinching 19h

nope, that's not what we're saying

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Anonymous 19h

that's not how that works

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Anonymous replying to -> desert_pinching 19h

ok nobody said to get homophobic with it

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Anonymous 19h

If you’re a misogynist gay guy just say that

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Anonymous 19h

we don't hate gay men, we're just calling it some of the bad behaviors of some of them

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Anonymous 19h

men are allergic to accountability

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 19h

how is it homophobic tho

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 19h

Exactly!!

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 19h

They are LMAOAAOOOO

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 19h

as a trans woman it’s always so annoying how every time we talk about like “we have it kinda bad don’t we” a trans men always has to be like “but what about us????? you’re not talking about us!!!!!” 🫩 trans men are the men of trans people

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 19h

ok i wouldn’t phrase it like that because it’s used as transmisogynistic rhetoric by lots of people

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 19h

yaaassss we're not talking about you right now because we're the ones they're targeting. we're not ignoring your problems, we're dying.

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Anonymous 19h

Me when I’m obtuse

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 19h
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Anonymous replying to -> #17 19h

LMFAOOAOAO ongggg😭😭😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 19h

Girl shut up- ur doing too much. Stay mad hoe

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 19h

i was just saying “what you said might be a smidge harmful” and you’re taking it as an offense :/ says a lot about your character

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 18h

THIS

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 18h

They aren’t? What?

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 18h

Trans women talk more about trans men doing this than trans men actually do this

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Anonymous 18h

What

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Anonymous replying to -> #21 18h

yes ofc not all trans men do this but in all of the queer spaces i have been in, both irl and online, the trans men speak over the trans women. this screams “not all men”

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Anonymous 18h

Is this your first day thinking?

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Anonymous replying to -> #20 18h

they absolutely are. i can’t tell you the amount of times ive gone to the bathroom at a bar and saw a gay guy in there with his group of girl friends

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 18h

Well trans men aren’t as talked about because they don’t usually need to be the center of attention. My friends who are trans men don’t act like that. They also don’t demand to play in men’s sports and call men things like penis haver but yall aren’t ready to talk about that

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 18h

Enlighten me, how are you more targeted than a trans man or a biological woman right now?

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Anonymous replying to -> #20 18h

also at my first job, there was a gay guy who would only use the women’s restroom even though staff and customers complained

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Anonymous replying to -> #20 18h

Lowk some will if they’re following their friends, I don’t think it’s bad intentions but it’s completely fair for women to still be uncomfortable with it

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 18h

laws that encourage killing us, us being the scapegoat of modern politics, v coding, etc

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 18h

did the term “vagina haver” not come from transmasc and non binary people wanting representation in terms of medical issues involving vaginas without calling them women? and you’re blaming it on trans women because that’s what the right wants :/

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 18h

bad intentions or not it’s insanely disgusting and disrespectful of them to do

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 18h

the fact that you’re blaming issues that don’t involve trans women on trans women solely due to your prejudice proves my point

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 18h

Can we be friends omfg it’s refreshing to see someone with some common sense

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 17h

What laws encourage killing you exactly? V coding is an issue but so is placing trans women with biological women and there needs to be a better solution.

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 17h

Trans women are biological women. The word you’re missing is “cis”, and no, women being with women isn’t an issue. Forcing women to be surrounded by men who are known to sexually assault and beat, or even murder, when things go awry is what is deadly.

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Anonymous 17h

rule 1

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Anonymous 17h

Do you need help sounding out the rules of the group? Or do you need pictures to help you understand?

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 17h

as a girl who is very pro lgbtq+ and supportive of trans people, trans women are still women, but theyre not biologically women. there is a difference🫩 trans women are still women, trans men are still men, but theyre not biologically women. the hormone levels are drastically different, gender affirming surgeries exist but i still dont know if that counts as being biologically a woman bc its surgery

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 17h

REAL SHIT 😭😭 none of my gay guy friends have used the womens restroom but i have run into gay men who use them. like pls this is for girls only ur not welcome here

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 17h

girl watch out they’re gonna call you transphobic for suggesting there’s inherent biological differences

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 17h

Can yall pipe down its not even a debate on trans people

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 17h

I am a trans girl and I have seen more trans women call trans men "confused girls" than I have seen trans guys saying "what about us"

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 17h

They’re biologically women. They’re not made of fucking plasma or igneous rock. And congrats on still pushing transphobic bullshit about hormones when you don’t understand HRT! Also, surgeries are not required nor does everyone need them. But they were originally created for cis women. There is ZERO possible ways to categorise all cis women in one way and exclude all trans women without there being exceptions. Because life isn’t that simple. Biology isn’t simple.

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 17h

The word is “cis”, not “biological”.

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 16h

Trans women are not biological women I’m sorry just not possible 💀

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Anonymous replying to -> #27 16h

Pipe down no one cares

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Anonymous replying to -> #27 16h

Typing away so hard over smt that doesn’t bother u

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Anonymous replying to -> #27 16h

They are. Get over it.

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 16h

unpo

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 16h

In your head, sure.

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Anonymous replying to -> #27 16h

In reality. Where you transphobic idiots refuse to live.

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 16h

Making one simple decision off of one comment about someone is very funny. You don’t even know me. I’m done responding to you…go do some homework better yourself, focus on someone that isn’t me. I’m taking up wayyy too much of your energy do something better. I’m done.

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 16h

you called me a hoe just for saying something i think that says a lot about who you are

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Anonymous 15h

do you even know what feminism even means dumbass?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 15h

Now bffr

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Anonymous replying to -> #28 15h

What?

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 15h

How are lesbian women sexist??😭

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Anonymous 15h

Says the one who needs it. PsychologyToday.com will be a great starting place for you. Do and be better.

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Anonymous replying to -> #35 15h

Because dicks are nasty

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Anonymous replying to -> #30 15h

So then it’s ok for someone to say vaginas are nasty. Don’t be a hypocrite let them have their opinion like you have yours

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Anonymous 15h

not remotely stop defending misogyny and it’ll become less weird to you 😘

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 14h

There are also laws that encourage killing cis women... Transmisogyny isn't the only type of misogyny boo

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Anonymous replying to -> #37 14h

Me when i miss the entire point of my comment

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Anonymous replying to -> #38 14h

Lucky you then. Because it happens. Or else i wouldn’t have commented about it

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 14h

I was born female, and the experiences that come with being biologically female have shaped my life in ways that someone who was not born female cannot fully experience firsthand. Acknowledging that difference is not the same as denying someone else’s identity. We can respect one another while still recognizing that our biological realities and lived experiences are not identical

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Anonymous replying to -> #37 14h

This is girl talk 🤷‍♀️

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 14h

fun fact crimes against trans men is classified as crimes against women. also the term "pooner" is an example of a slur made to dehumanize and delegitimize trans men :) trans men and trans women should be allies, not making the argument about who has it worse or who is "worse"

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Anonymous replying to -> #27 14h

I agree

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 14h

Or go for guys that act like girls

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 14h

No I get your comment. You’re mad gay men are disrespecting women. It’s your reasoning for why gay men don’t have the right to disrespect women, that makes it sexist and gendered. Your reasoning for why it’s wrong is cause they’re a man, that’s all. Not anything noble like it’s wrong to disrespect people in general. Just cause they’re a man. I understand your feelings, but the wording of how you said it is why you have so many comments.

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Anonymous replying to -> #35 14h

you have a point but unfortunately most folks aren't willing to consider it. hate from both ends gets nowhere. the treatment for misogyny isn't raging misandry or getting even

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 13h

They do everything mentioned in the post but to men, yet it’s socially tolerated

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Anonymous replying to -> #27 13h

You were assigned female at birth and raised in a more stereotypical way that aligns with it and your sense of gender and expression. Good for you. Still doesn’t make other women any less biological or any less of women. They’re shaped by their womanhood and experiences from birth just like you are. Your experience wouldn’t even the same even for an identical twin. You cannot claim all cis women have the same experiences and that no trans woman shares in that, period. Stop pushing the BS.

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 13h

gay men face far more obstacles then lesbian women what

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 13h

Misandry among lesbians is rampant but ok

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Anonymous 13h

Aaand exhibit A

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 13h

“misandry” is not real lmao

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Anonymous replying to -> #43 13h

no they fucking don’t??? do any of you people go outside and interact with the real world omg

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Anonymous replying to -> #43 13h

no man has it worse than a woman gay or straight like let’s think for a minute..

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 12h

Which is also wrong for them to be but is not the topic of this post

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 12h

Like how are they more pick me than pick me's

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 12h

If you weren't born a female, then yes, you are less biologically a woman than I am. Do you hear yourself?

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 12h

Again, no trans woman can never have the experience of a biological woman.

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 12h

Denying blatant hatred for men but then demanding that misogyny be stopped is why there’s never gonna be an end to conflict. Good job buddy

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Anonymous replying to -> #45 12h

Targeting gay men for being misogynistic when the average lesbian will outwardly say she hates men is just an interesting viewpoint to hold

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Anonymous replying to -> #30 12h

See, why should men not call vaginas ugly or nasty when you talk about men like that? You want respect that you don’t give and don’t deserve

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Anonymous replying to -> #27 12h

Keep your transphobic bullshit to yourself you ignorant sow.

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 12h

Keep saying that misandry isn’t real and no one will care about misogyny

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 12h

No im saying we should def hate on them for it too (especially as a bi woman, it's so weird how lesbians treat bi women because they like men too) but this post isn't about that

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Anonymous replying to -> #45 12h

Sure, but my issue is that this post essentially insinuates there’s some huge problem with gay men being misogynist, despite gay men overall treating women very well. And just ignoring the fact that it’s about the opposite for lesbian women. They are open about their hatred for men and it’s tolerated by other women. Throwing stones from a glass house kinda thing

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Anonymous replying to -> #21 12h

This whole thread is just proof that everyone wants to be a bigger victim nowadays. Everyone has it bad! Lots of things need to change it’s not just one group that gets affected. We should all be able to find common ground on the fact that life for everyone sucks and it’s the very few people at the top who make it that way.

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 12h

I will say historically gay men can be very catty for lack of a better term, and a lot of issues with lesbian and misandry is the same with gay men and misogyny. Misogyny is just much more normalized in modern society, unfortunately. It's something worth talking about though in many threads here it's devolving simply into "I hate men, all men are privileged and evil" rhetoric, which is counterproductive

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Anonymous replying to -> #46 12h

thank you for proving my point

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 12h

Yeah honestly I totally get that and I 100% agree

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 12h

Truth. We're all the 99% getting shafted by the 1%. If we all came together despite our differences, the 1% would be powerless. Division is good for the upper echelon

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Anonymous replying to -> #39 12h

Agreed

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Anonymous replying to -> #43 12h

They're both gay they both face the same prejudice

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Anonymous replying to -> #39 12h

Omg fr, social media puts people into echo chambers making them so much more extreme and it's dividing all of us

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Anonymous replying to -> #38 12h

“I haven’t seen it so that means that it didn’t happen”. Very privileged perspective to have in this world.

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Anonymous replying to -> #46 12h

Yes

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Anonymous replying to -> #27 11h

Women have spent generations fighting to have their voices, experiences, boundaries, and rights recognized. I think it is fair to question whether, in certain conversations, the emphasis on validating one group’s identity comes at the expense of listening to biological women’s perspectives. Recognizing transgender women’s experiences should not require biological women to silence or minimize their own. There should be room for both conversations without one invalidating the other.

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 11h

Lowkey that's what I'm saying like why are peoe making out other people to be monsters when we're all just people lol. No war but the class war or something

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 11h

"You ignorant sow" - going straight into misogynist insults when you don't get your way. Why am I not surprised lol

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Anonymous replying to -> #46 11h

Gay men say the same about vaginas 🤦🏾‍♀️

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Anonymous replying to -> #52 11h

Yeah that’s the point. OP is complaining about gay men doing this, when lesbians, and tbh women in general say this about men.

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Anonymous replying to -> #46 11h

I think it’s not great both ways but as a bi woman ig I can’t relate to thinking either is gross, I definitely think there’s a difference between just saying ew not for me versus saying things like either smells bad or is disgusting

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 10h

Tbh I hear straight women say things like men are ugly, guys are hot women are not, women are more attractive than men, etc. It feels like there is a female chauvinism thing where women believe they are more attractive than men and that makes them superior.

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Anonymous replying to -> #46 10h

Honestly could see that

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Anonymous replying to -> #52 10h

No because why are they SO TOUCHY

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Anonymous replying to -> #45 9h

I’ve become BOLD one time that happened with pulled back and looked at them and said please don’t touch me and they got offended…

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Anonymous replying to -> #52 9h

I*

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Anonymous replying to -> #52 9h

I did the same thing during theatre because one of my cast mates kept doing it

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Anonymous replying to -> #45 9h

How about we keep our hands to ourselves like what 😭 like I wouldn't want anyone putting their hands on me bro that's bonkers

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Anonymous replying to -> #39 9h

Realll

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Anonymous replying to -> #27 8h

i don’t think anyone is invalidating either experience except the people who need to keep reminding everyone that trans women are different from cis women as if we don’t know that already…

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 7h

So you’re saying you hate gay men? SMH

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 7h

Being a biological women is being born a woman… it is literally the definition of biological woman. It works with your chromosomes, gametes, etc. it is literally in the DNA.

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Anonymous replying to -> #57 7h

Just so you know, certain evidence suggests that transgender folks are also, in certain ways, biologically the gender they are even if their genitals or chromosomes don't say the same thing. Also, XX and XY are not the only chromosome combinations, and intersex variations exist. Gender and sex aren't black and white, it's very neat!

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Anonymous replying to -> #57 7h

Nobody is born a woman. You grow into one. Every person is biological. Trans women are no less of women than any other. Glad you could be educated tonight!

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Anonymous replying to -> #39 7h

Logic and science doesn’t compute for these braindead fucks. Transphobes actively deny reality to suit their bigotry and hatred of women different than them.

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 7h

Yeah so I said the definition of biological woman.

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Anonymous replying to -> #57 7h

AI, just as useless as your incorrect views. How cute. Seek help you mouldy fuck. ♥️

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Anonymous replying to -> #57 7h

I'd recommend not using AI overview and using actual reputable scientific sources. Ai overview mostly pulls from things like Reddit which are famously biased and transphobic

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Anonymous replying to -> #39 7h

I just looked it up on Google

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Anonymous replying to -> #57 7h

That's the ai overview :) you gotta scroll a bit. It's better to find scientific papers and studies. If it's something you're curious about challenging, it can be interesting to actually learn more about biology! Fun fact, more people are intersex than we even realize! And being transgender is as common (if not more common) than being a redhead

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Anonymous replying to -> #39 7h

That’s a cool fact! I am reading up on some other articles, I’m still seeing mostly from the point of scientists that biological women is a term for female chromosomes,hormones,etc. so what argument is 7 making? The take away from them seems to be that anyone can be biological to whichever sex. That trans women are biological women too but they lack DNA of that? What is your overview of it?

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Anonymous replying to -> #57 7h

DNA is very tricky! There's a suck thing as X0, XY, XX, XXY, XXXY, etc chromosomes, there's such things as intersex women who were assigned women at birth but still consider themselves trans because they had to do some things to feel comfortable, and then there's the average trans woman who is typically born XY or some similar variation—though when born, their brains are configured *to be women* and receive estrogen their body won't make. In this way, they too are biologically women. :)

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Anonymous replying to -> #57 7h

Also, bioessentialism has long been used to justify slavery, racism, and misogyny, so when a trans person hears "biologically male/female", it's usually a dog whistle for transphobia and bad intentions. Similar ideas of "biologically _" have been used to claim black people are stupider than white people, or that women are dainty and pathetic compared to men, etc. At the end of the day, our bones all look the same. It's who we were in life that matters

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Anonymous replying to -> #39 7h

So when 7 is saying this, they’re not specifically speaking on all trans women, specifically on intersex transgender (just for clarification) ? Just in the sense of a general conversation

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Anonymous replying to -> #57 7h

I believe they're speaking for all :) also consider, we know very little about transgender people in general due to being a marginalized group for all of history. Like I said, even general trans women often have the brains of cis women, and are comparable to such

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Anonymous replying to -> #39 7h

So it seems like there’s two conversations in this thread that aren’t speaking with each other. Some of it sounds like it is deep rooted and looks at science from a smaller viewpoint and the other is focused on the aftermath of birth. Is that the two different view points being shown as a whole and thus causing the discourse ? Thank you for taking your time to educate me further!

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Anonymous replying to -> #57 6h

Could you rephrase a bit for me? Apologies, it's 1am so I'm a bit slow at the moment. And no worries! I'm happy you're interested in learning

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Anonymous replying to -> #56 6h

I find that trans men have a fundamentally different relationship to biological womanhood, having been born female and experienced life through that lens, than trans women who were born male. I also think trans men deserve a meaningful voice in conversations surrounding biological sex, women’s experiences, and gender identity. Ultimately, everyone is entitled to their own identity and perspective, but that doesn’t mean we have to abandon the distinctions between them. To each their own.

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Anonymous replying to -> #27 6h

Every voice is important. We learn nothing from hearing the same rhetoric over and over again. Only by broadening our horizons can we truly learn. The things my transfem friend loves about her femininity are the same things a transmasc friend may hate, and together they teach the other to learn to be kinder, more open, and more loving of themselves and others and I think that's neat :)

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Anonymous replying to -> #39 6h

Gender identity is a conversation worth having, or “neat,” but women have spent generations fighting, sacrificing, and dying for a seat at the table. I don’t want the fight for women’s rights, bodily autonomy, safety, and recognition of our lived experiences to become secondary. There is room for both conversations, but women should not have to fight to be heard all over again.

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Anonymous replying to -> #27 6h

No one said it needed to be tabled or put "second" at all...? I was agreeing with you?

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Anonymous replying to -> #39 6h

Based on your other comments, I figured that's what you were insinuating.

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Anonymous replying to -> #27 6h

All women deserve rights. Picking and choosing which women are more deserving is what ends up with a divided society that can be picked off easily. We're ALL marginalized, so racism and transphobia has no place in an already fractured demographic. True change comes with uniting with our brothers and sisters to fight for everyone, not just the perfect cishet white woman's rights. THATS what my comments all insinuate.

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Anonymous replying to -> #39 6h

I’m talking about biological women’s rights, bodily autonomy, reproductive freedom, and sex-based protections. We watched Roe v. Wade get overturned, and women are still fighting for control over their own bodies. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to question why conversations about biological women’s rights and spaces so often become redirected into debates about gender identity. These issues deserve to be discussed on their own merits without automatically labeling disagreement as prejudice.

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Anonymous replying to -> #27 6h

Okay? Again, why does that have to do with... not being transphobic? Also gender identity is an important thing to talk about? The people overturning reproductive rights are the same bigots who are killing trans people. They hate any minority, not just the "convenient" ones. These conversations can happen side by side without lessening each other's values. Also, someone ELSE literally turned it into a bioessentialist debate about genitals and such. I'm just offering my perspective?

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Anonymous replying to -> #39 6h

That’s neat, but I’m discussing the struggles women have faced for generations and how we’re still fighting to protect our rights, our voices, and our place in this world. I don’t want that conversation overshadowed.

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Anonymous replying to -> #27 6h

I find it funny that you literally state you believe "trans men deserve a meaningful voice in conversations surrounding biological sex [...]" considering I AM a trans man. So which is is, is this a conversation we can have, as per your first response in this thread, or is it something that is ""overshadowing"" the conversation you want? You can fight for BOTH. Bigots hate us BOTH. You can't fight for the rights of one minority and disregard the other. The oppressors will never be kind

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Anonymous replying to -> #39 6h

Yeah so I’m saying this thread looks to me that it’s focusing on two different issues at hand. One person is arguing about micro level science about genetics while the other is arguing over physical attributes- that’s how I’m viewing this comment section now and wanted to know if that was right

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Anonymous replying to -> #57 6h

It can be hard to differentiate the two I feel. Many transphobes will do something called "transvestigating" which is deciding certain attributes have certain sexes tied to them, and therefore cis folks can be targeted by transphobic attacks. Then on a more biologically scale—biology is all sorts of weird. As humans, we want things to fit in perfectly neat black and white boxes, but that's rarely the case! The world is weird and wonderful, and to think in terms of "one" or the "other" limits us

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Anonymous replying to -> #58 6h

I feel a lot of it is "punching down" as well, intentional or not, like you said. We see it exhibited a lot where there's a "pecking order" of privilege, and anyone a rung below is the joke of the hour. It's definitely something to think about

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Anonymous replying to -> #60 5h

Get the hell out of Girl Talk!

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 5h

You know sometimes people get recommended posts even if they're not in the community, right?

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 5h

✌️😢

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Anonymous replying to -> #39 5h

You know that it’s labeled *Girl* Talk and our rules are clear, right? You can see yourself out, too, dude.

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 5h

It's incredibly easy to look at posts and not realize the community they're from. Accidents happen

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 5h

“Our rules are clear” 🤓

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Anonymous replying to -> #59 5h

I mostly have homegirls lol but its coooool lol im used to being the bad guy 😔🤣🤣🤣

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Anonymous replying to -> #39 5h

Ew, I’m sick of you nasty ass males constantly invading our spaces.

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Anonymous replying to -> #60 5h

Yeah #7 is just losing their mind ig. They were doing so earlier and being very standoffish as well. Have a lovely day!

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Anonymous replying to -> #39 5h

Geeking for no reason lmao

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Anonymous replying to -> #59 5h

Anyways were gonna end on a positive note power to the women quite literally nun of us would be here without a woman so much love and respect to women PERIOD.

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Anonymous replying to -> #60 5h

PREACH!!!! Love women. Any men lurking, be the positive change and influence your friends to do better. Call misogyny out!!! Women deserve better than that bs!!!

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Anonymous replying to -> #39 5h

Yeeeees and don’t ENTERTAIN that shit by laughing at or with them ts corny asf n make you look sooooo unattractive in ALL categories 🙂‍↕️

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Anonymous replying to -> #52 1h

I’ve been groped by straight women so much at gay clubs too, yall are so deluded if you think women are some angels who aren’t capable of sexual assault against gay men 🫩

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Anonymous replying to -> #61 1h

literally no one said that…

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 1h

me when I can’t see… if you’re gonna treat gay men as a monolith, we can do the same sweetie

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Anonymous replying to -> #61 1h

LMAO me when i’m a fucking idiot. no where did anyone say “women are incapable of sexual assault.” them sharing their experiences with gay men being touchy ≠ saying women are incapable of doing the same thing. since you clearly lack reading comprehension skills, go back to middle school english and try again sweetie

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 1h

Me when I’m part of the literacy crisis and can’t utilize context clues. Let’s look at the post itself and what their responding to and recognize when it’s appropriate to share an experience. If yall said “Why are they so touchy” in response to “Gay men are just men” in real life, you’d be met with the same response that women are just as “touchy” as gay men “supposedly”. It’s so obvious you idiots live online and don’t go outside lmao

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Anonymous replying to -> #61 1h

first of all, talking about the literacy crisis, yet can’t use the fight form of “they’re” is absolutely hilarious. the post is about gay men being disrespectful to women, and women shared their experiences with gay men being overly touchy aka BEING DISRESPECTFUL. the fact that you felt so called out that you felt the need to respond to someone else’s personal experience with “well women do it too” is so incredibly telling. like you’re seriously just loud and slow and that’s crazy 🤣

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Anonymous replying to -> #61 1h

when you make the assumption: “why are they so touchy?” you’re directly implying that gay men are more touchy than straight women, when I know tons of gay men who have been physically harassed by women and would say the same thing. It begs the question of whether this is actually sharing an experience or just dog whistling vitriol against gay men cause let’s be real, yall are just as homophobic as straight men.

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 1h

Girl it’s 4am, I can’t be bothered to spell check, but I do know homophobia when I see it, which yall are wasting no time to air out btw. Yall wouldn’t say half the shit on this thread isn’t exclusive to gay men and yall are just being hateful for no reason. The reason I say women do it too is because the threads topic is respect? Respect goes both ways but tiktok feminists here clearly want to circle jerk and hate on gay men, when yall are just as bad if not worse than gay men in terms of rspct

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Anonymous replying to -> #61 1h

right, the “it’s too early” excuse lmao. it’s not too early to be an asshole, but it’s too early to use “they’re” instead of “their” 🤣🤣 also, the threads topic is not respect, it’s gay men disrespecting women. the fact that you’re a gay man in girl talk in the first place is quite literally proving OP’s point. you’re trying to sit there and cry homophobia and say “respect goes both ways” and play the victim while you are actively disrespecting a women’s space….the jokes write themselves

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 56m

It’s also ironic how straight women who historically have fetishized gay men (via industries like boys love/yaoi) are talking about gay men being touchy when yall have funded a multi billion dollar porn industry ran on the sexuality of gay men. Yall have no problem using our sexuality as an aesthetic but when it comes to disrespect, yall love to emphasize something that both men and women are capable of doing (sexual assault) as if it’s exclusive to gay men. Girl bye…

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 54m

The post got put in my recommended, and say that to the gay clubs that are constantly overrun by straight women who invade gay male spaces, yall are just as guilty of that too, except the difference is you intentionally invade ours. Straight women are the fattest hypocrites lmaoo

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Anonymous replying to -> #61 54m

you’re pulling anything out of your ass to try to be the victim. whole time, you shouldn’t even be here. LMAO BOY BYE

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Anonymous replying to -> #61 53m

just bc the post was in your recommended, doesn’t mean you need to come and interact. the post showing up may have not been intentional, but your comments 100% were. be SO fr.

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 50m

Baby don’t come for gay men if you can’t take a look in the mirror, that’s why you’re too busy writing about grammar typos when you know straight women commit the same shit yall love to use as an material for homophobia.

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 48m

Stop coming into gay spaces girl, i’m tired of being groped by perverted straight women who view me as an object😣😣😣😣

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Anonymous replying to -> #61 45m

like you’re so fucking stupid bro omg. my whole point is that no one said women are innocent creatures who do no wrong so you commenting “women do bad things too” is dumb and unnecessary. we know women do awful things. i’m sure at least one woman in this thread have been harmed by another woman in some way, shape, or form. this post was talking experiences with gay men being disrespectful. if you want to say something about women, make your own post about it in your own space

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Anonymous replying to -> #61 44m

it’s giving men saying “men get raped too” only when women are talking about their experiences. it’s just being used as a comeback, not that they actually care about the victim. talk about literacy crisis 🤦🏾‍♀️

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Anonymous replying to -> #39 44m

That's neat!

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Anonymous replying to -> #61 43m

trust and believe me when i say i have and will never do that 🤣🤣🤣

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 41m

or yall can just stop being weird, because half the shit in this thread can be applied both way and yall are getting way too comfortable attacking other minorities for literally no reason? It’s one thing to call it out, but when you go for gay men specifically, it makes no sense and it’s just insanely hypocritical. Call me stupid all you want, but this entire thread could’ve been a phone call. Just dumb women looking for villains.

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Anonymous replying to -> #59 35m

literally, this is what straight men want 🫩

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Anonymous replying to -> #61 33m

you’re continuing to prove OPs point with each ignorant comment you make. yall are just as disgusting, disrespectful, and misogynistic as straight men. if not worse bc at least they don’t try to hide it and act like we’re united but then get all pissy and throw a fit the second they get called out

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 31m

And yall are the same, we can tell with how much homophobia is in this thread alone ❤️

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Anonymous replying to -> #61 30m

if that’s how you feel then get tf out of our community. no one wants you here ❤️

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 29m

“Women talking about their experiences”is a great dog whistle for homophobia. You sound like a straight man being misogynistic and saying “well I’m just sharing my experience” as if it covers up the blatant sexism.

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 27m

Clearly you do since you have our community in your mouths 24/7, despite using our culture and sexualities like toys (historical and economic basis btw) but you can’t say the same when we look at the stats for gay men crime against straight women (because it’s so low that it puts into question whether the hatred in this thread is real or just a dog whistle for homophobia)

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Anonymous replying to -> #61 19m

boy bye!! bye bye!!!

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 18m

I was deadass singing this song in my head before reading this comment

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 16m

Bye girl 😚 I hope you find a cure for your homophobia, it’s 2026 btw!

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Anonymous replying to -> #61 12m

hopefully common sense and critical thinking skills start to kick in for you soon

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 8m

The common sense is when I look at crime stats and gay men are substantially less likely to commit physical assault towards straight women, let’s go gays 🎉🥳

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 4m

more reliable evidence to show that you’re a lot stupider than you think you are and your argument has no basis!

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