Anonymous #1 7w

YES

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Anonymous #1 7w

I don’t think most girls need to be taking prep

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Anonymous #2 7w

All depends on a persons situation If you know you have multiple sex partners and you haven’t even seen any of their test results then you probably should be taking it

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Anonymous #2 7w

Well yes thank you for expanding Not everything I listed needs/can be done simultaneously! The point is to have people doing at least one or the other If you’re on birth control you wouldn’t be needing Plan B in most cases anyway

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Anonymous OP 7w

A lot of people think they’re still ovulating so they either freak out about being unprotected and maybe pregnant or they take a Plan B. Now if you’re having sex with random people you should be using a condom but outside of that I’m not sure how people think they’re unprotected

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Anonymous #2 7w

I think there might just not be enough sex ed And its sad they’re reducing it from schools 💔 It just sucks to see people be reckless and end up pregnant or with infections

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Anonymous #2 7w

If youre having piv with multple diff partners you should esp if you dont use condoms every time

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Anonymous #3 7w

some ppl enjoy sex and should be encouraged to be safe while doing so. nobody said anything abt “mid men we wouldn’t commit to”

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Anonymous #3 7w

You’re either a guy and/or dont have much dating experience Women AND men dont choose to get cheated on, people can be in the most beautiful relationships and someone will decide to cheat, its is in your best interest to get TESTED FREQUENTLY Men have literally started lying about their political views to get into relationships/sex with people Not to mention they pretend to be with you through thick and thin and then leave/runaway when or if you get pregnant You’re incredibly naive

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Anonymous #4 7w

Thank you

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Anonymous #3 7w

Girl what are you talking about? Having sex with a good looking principled guy isn’t gonna stop you from getting pregnant

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Anonymous OP 7w

I’m a woman and married 😂 a ton of dating experience, I was very picky. I’m so happy I made the decisions I did. You deserve better than expecting your partner to cheat but there are also decisions you can make to set yourself up for success here. Be well

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Anonymous #2 7w

…right it stops you from getting pregnant with a guy who won’t commit to you. By having sex with a good looking principled guy who married you already lol

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Anonymous #3 7w

Congratulations? Your post just confirmed that you are infact naive, not everyone is as lucky as you are EVEN WHEN they make decisions to set themselves up for success You’d think at your grown age you’d know this

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Anonymous #4 7w

It’s possible to enjoy sex and have standards. Issues like STDs don’t happen if you use your discernment properly. You deserve better than spiraling over a man using you for sex

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Anonymous OP 7w

Never take advice from people who you wouldn’t switch places with. I’m married, with a man who has never cheated, has not left me while pregnant, never had to get an STD test. At minimum, you have trust issues and feel the need to be on birth control, worry about your partner cheating, and get STD tested. I think you deserve better than that, but you reap what you sow

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Anonymous #3 7w

some STIs are asymptomatic, so it’s in everyone’s best interests to get tested regularly. ur rhetoric here is effectively shaming women for sleeping with the “wrong man” when they couldn’t possibly be telling the future. congrats on ur marriage, im genuinely happy that ur where u want to be, but yikyak is primarily for students, a phase where it’s common for ppl to have sexual partners for the first time, and i didnt say anything abt being used for sex

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Anonymous #4 7w

Not meant to shame anyone ever, but if we’re going to give unsolicited advice about how to address stds pregnancy etc, it’s worth also thinking about how to prevent them entirely

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Anonymous #3 7w

How brain dead can you be😭 Sometimes you have to listen/take advice from people that haven’t made it because then you’ll know what NOT to do. This is why often associate wisdom with the elderly. They’ve experienced things, good and bad. Yes YOU have a successful marriage but that doesn’t happen to everyone! Whats not clickingggg I was in an amazing relationship where neither of us worried but we still got tested once a year.

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Anonymous OP 7w

I was on birth control with him because as amazing as he was neither of us wanted a baby, we were in college and had dreams. THATS CALLED FAMILY PLANNING AND BEING SMART

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Anonymous OP 7w

“Was?” Did the relationship end?

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Anonymous OP 7w

Would not having sex have also prevented you from having a baby with your ex?

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Anonymous OP 7w

I totally agree. This advice is what not to do.

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Anonymous #3 7w

We’re both adults. Why would we choose abstinence when effective contraceptives exist? If you and your husband decide 3kids are enough are you going to stop having sex for the rest of your marriage?😐

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Anonymous #3 7w

listen. ppl KNOW that abstinence is the only completely 100% successful method of not getting pregnant. but we’re adults. adults can choose to have sex, and they should have all of the education and information possible in order to make the best choices for their sexual health and family planning goals. the way u are speaking to ppl reads as very shame-y

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Anonymous #3 7w

Yes, we got amazing jobs in different cities and I wasn’t willing to give it up nor ask him to give up his. Relationships end its part of life. Aren’t you old enough to know this?💀

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Anonymous OP 7w

Yep I had plenty of relationships end. I had high standards so none of them got sex. This eliminated the need for the worries in your post.

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Anonymous OP 7w

Because it leads to the problems that caused your original post🤷‍♀️ No, NFP has been 100% effective for us bc we use it correctly

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Anonymous #3 7w

Natural family planning is still a form of family planning 😭 I’m starting to question your intelligence If you can do family planning to prevent having more kids why shouldn’t I also use family planning to prevent having kids

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Anonymous #4 7w

Totally agree people should be educated on all the info possible which includes reality not just crisis management for poor decisions. As adults we have to accept the consequences of our decisions too.

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Anonymous #3 7w

My concern for getting pregnant is not the commitment of the man but rather the having of the baby. I am uninterested in having a child at the moment. My mother already had a good man at my age but they didn’t have me for another six years. Her not wanting to be pregnant at this age had nothing to do with my dad!

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Anonymous OP 7w

I think there’s totally a place for that, but you’re talking about birth control and std testing and you’re also speaking from a place of needing to worry about these things bc you’re having sex with men who wouldn’t commit to you. It’s your life, you can do what you want. Just think you deserve better.

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Anonymous #2 7w

Oh I see. Was she feeling the need to get std tests during this time?

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Anonymous #3 7w

routine preventative tests and pregnancy prevention methods are not “crisis management”, and i sure as hell wouldn’t call being sexually active in my 20s a poor decision. sexual activity is reality (what a strange argument to make that it’s not), and the most straightforward way to take responsibility for adult choices is to make thought out family planning and sexual health choices. idk what ur problem is

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Anonymous #3 7w

Birth control is a form of family planning? NFP is a form of family planning. You go to the doctor and dentist for check ups even if you’re perfectly healthy so why is STD testing any different??? And I know I deserve the best, I have high standards, and Im not even having sex with someone if thats what you’re insinuating. I made the post to raise awareness because, this might sound crazy, I care about other women and know everyone is doing their own thing🤯 crazy I know

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Anonymous #4 7w

A post exclaiming when plan b won’t work is crisis management. You can choose whatever lifestyle you want but jsyk there’s a whole option where you don’t have to be worried about std testing, plan b not working, and panic. None of what was mentioned is preventative other than cycle tracking (including bc except copper iud)

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Anonymous #3 7w

I don’t know what she was up to on that front. I’m talking about pregnancy and birth control.

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Anonymous OP 7w

I mean they have totally different scientific processes and moral implications actually but the difference is if within marriage a lot of these other issues you raise are not relevant. STDs are preventable. Yeah I get that you prob had good intentions, that’s also why I responded, I think this type of advice is not good for women and normalizes settling / giving uncommitted men sexual access they don’t deserve

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Anonymous #3 7w

Ngl this is so male centered of a take... sex isnt about whether a man deserves it lmfao. Let women have fun its so weird to be against harm reduction

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Anonymous #3 7w

Your skull is too thick my dear. Even if they have different scientific processes so what if it works for the individual? Do you think different equals bad? NFP is 25% ineffective and thats what you want all women to do? Even in marriage? You pretend to have good intentions but its all back handed and egotistical, pinning yourself as the pinnacle of success.

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Anonymous #1 7w

it’s beyond male centered it’s like advice from a grandma who thinks you’re a slut and pretends she wouldn’t have enjoyed the pill back in her day

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Anonymous #1 7w

She thinks sex is something you give to a man as a reward instead of an intimate act shared between two people. People like her assume women are incapable of enjoying sex, must not be getting it good from her husband

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Anonymous #2 7w

Yo😭 Not to mention women back then were literally poisoning their husbands to get out of marriage Grandmas would have been jumping and rejoicing for these birth controls

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Anonymous #3 7w

birth control is preventative. it prevents pregnancy. what is the reason for separating the copper iud from other forms of bc? sti testing is preventing anything u may have gotten from getting worse and making sure ur aware so u don’t give it to others. i have never used or had to use a plan B, but ppl should know how it works and what medications might interact with it. that was literally just one part of the post. u have a weird holier than thou attitude here, idk what ur issue is

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Anonymous #2 7w

fr it’s giving grandma trying to tiptoe around calling u a harlot😭

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Anonymous #1 7w

I think at least calling it harm reduction is more honest

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Anonymous #2 7w

Oh right it’s much less male centered to go around sleeping with guys that won’t commit 🙄 I’m the same age as the average user here idk who you’re calling gma

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Anonymous OP 7w

It sounds like you had poor examples. The elderly women in my life had happy marriages and I was grateful for their advice…

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Anonymous OP 7w

Lmao it’s not a “reward” for men, ofc we enjoy it too. Totally agree it’s an intimate act between two people. In fact it’s so intimate that if you use discernment you won’t need to stress about half the things in your post

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Anonymous #3 7w

What poor examples?💀 My grandpa was a pastor and the best husband to my grandma. Again you’re going “me me me” “my life my life my life” Not everything is about YOU. I’m talking about STATISTICS

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Anonymous #4 7w

Plan b and many bc options are medically abortaficients. This is why I agree education on this stuff is important I literally agree women should know about all the meds etc.

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Anonymous #3 7w

I think you need to go have some intimate time with your husband now

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Anonymous OP 7w

I am literally not the pinnacle of success lol. I definitely do not think that, I’ve had so many struggles and failures in life. I’m also lucky I had women who kept it real with me and shared some of these tough truths that did work out well for me. The difference is the abortaficient nature. NFP is 99% effective when used correctly which is why I agree education is so important.

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Anonymous OP 7w

Ok 😏

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Anonymous #3 7w

Plan b used correctly is to prevents ovulation Looks like you need the education because you don’t know them well apparently And lucky for me I believe in medical abortions.

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Anonymous #3 7w

BYEEEE

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Anonymous #3 7w

Even if you are happily married you might still worry about plan B not working. Which is why you might want to be on birth control. Which is preventative.

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Anonymous OP 7w

You bring up hypothetical examples of women poisoning themselves to get out of marriage as the standard. Maybe look at the women in your own life if you have such great examples. Sounds like your grandma was happily married 🧐

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Anonymous #3 7w

They do not have different moral implications. You are insane.

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Anonymous #3 7w

I’m not even promoting sleeping around. I’m telling you that even if a guy will commit it doesn’t automatically make a girl become okay with pregnancy. You’re acting like a grandmother because you have all these backwards ideas about sex and marriage. It has nothing to do with your real age.

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Anonymous OP 7w

Sry I was thinking abortion pill, not plan b. Yes plan b can delay ovulation. Yeah I kind of gathered that, that’s sort of why this issue becomes even more important, bc you support irresponsible decision making even if it means killing another human.

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Anonymous #2 7w

Most birth control is abortaficient not preventative.

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Anonymous #3 7w

When used regularly that 99% of NFP DROPS DRASTICALLY because of human error and the fact that your cycle changes from things such as stress. Education is important. Then stop being so self centered if you really did have a shitty life.

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Anonymous OP 7w

I feel like you don’t know how NFP works? It’s literally designed around cycles changing. You measure your hormones, temp and symptoms daily. Your body will tell you if pregnancy is possible if you test these things daily. It’s only through regular use that one could get 99%

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Anonymous #2 7w

Abortions and prevention have different moral implications. This isn’t hard.

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Anonymous OP 7w

Exactly. And my grandma had no problems with my grandpa but I doubt she wanted more children than she had. There’s nothing wrong with that!

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Anonymous #3 7w

Do you even know what a medical abortion is?💀 Women have to carry dead babies in their bodies because of people like you. So not only are you poorly educated you also hate your fellow women.

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Anonymous #3 7w

okay and what would be wrong with that?

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Anonymous #2 7w

I get what you are trying to say but this post was obviously about that (including std tests, responses in comments) which is why I responded with the alternatives. Like were also allowed to opt out of these problems entirely by having higher standards and I’m tired of that being seen as abnormal

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Anonymous #3 7w

This is something I would say if I was dumb but alas I am not

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Anonymous #4 7w

With abortaficients? They intentionally kill an innocent human life.

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Anonymous #3 7w

They’re not hypothetical. It happened😄

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Anonymous #3 7w

and “abortaficient” does not appear to be a scientific term, from what i can find it’s only used in christian religious contexts

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Anonymous OP 7w

No, every single state that bans abortion allows miscarriage care. You’re just spreading misinformation.

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Anonymous #4 7w

I’m fine using other terms: Scientifically it intentionally ends a distinct human life.

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Anonymous #3 7w

oh okay ur coming in on a hyper religious pro life angle here, not anything based on science or with mindfulness that not everyone is religious, let alone christian, let alone ur specific brand of christianity.

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Anonymous #3 7w

Would you like me to give you the names of women that prove otherwise? Because they’re either dead or giving testimonies in court😐

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Anonymous #2 7w

Feel free to respond when you have an actual argument.

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Anonymous #4 7w

I haven’t said a thing about religion, I prefer sticking to science

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Anonymous OP 7w

Yes give me names. I’d be happy to walk you through the specific cases.

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Anonymous #3 7w

Birth control is not the same as abortion

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Anonymous #3 7w

Give it up sissy I don’t see you talking about the human lives this government takes in the name of “freedom”. You people are growing closer to tying women up to a chair and forcing her to give birth everyday

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Anonymous #2 7w

Bc that ends a distinct human life is abortion. Things like condoms or copper iud are not

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Anonymous #3 7w

does it end a life or just prevent conception? bc the medical definition of the beginning of pregnancy is implantation. and just bc ur not interested in bc for urself doesn’t mean that it’s bad for other ppl to use it

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Anonymous OP 7w

You’re projecting a lot of assumptions onto me rather than address what I’ve actually said.

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Anonymous #3 7w

My argument is that birth control does not work by causing abortions. There is no pregnancy to be terminated!

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Anonymous #3 7w

girl if i google a word u are frequently using and im only seeing it used in religious contexts, ur ideology is based in religion

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Anonymous #3 7w

Yikyak is full of old men so if you take that into the average…GRANDMAAAA Didn’t you say you’re going to get intimate with your husband? What are you still doing here? Or did he finish already 💔 sorry sissy

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Anonymous #4 7w

The medical definition of human life is fertilization which is 6+ days before implantation. The medical timeline for pregnancy is actually even earlier, calculated from LMP rather than fertilization which Drs consider 2 weeks in (around ovulation)

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Anonymous #4 7w

Nope just based on science. Idk why you keep bringing up religion

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Anonymous #3 7w

Oop you didn’t deny it So you care about some lives but not all got it

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Anonymous #2 7w

It depends on which birth control. If bc is effective after fertilization has occurred it’s terminating a human life. Types of bc that don’t do this are not

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Anonymous OP 7w

Nope I care about all human lives and am pro-human rights. You?

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Anonymous OP 7w

He’s coming home shortly thanks for checking ☺️ where’s your husband?

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Anonymous #2 7w

Ok this post is from a single person talking about casual sex

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Anonymous #3 7w

Birth control does not end a distinct human life.

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Anonymous #3 7w

medical definition of PREGNANCY is implantation, according to the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists. if i ovulate but dont have sex, did i deny a human life? obviously not that’s fucking ridiculous

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Anonymous #3 7w

Bodily autonomy is part of humanity rights which I support There’s a reason we don’t force people to donate organs or blood by law The law doesn’t even force mothers and conveniently fathers, to donate their body for their kids But when its pregnancy, the one thing man conveniently cant do, we suddenly argue about it

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Anonymous #2 7w

Yes, some of them do.

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Anonymous #3 7w

Oh the ONE iud that prevents implementation?😒

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Anonymous #4 7w

Science says a unique human life is created at fertilization. The National Institute of Health and any biology textbook is clear on this. If you ovulate but don’t have sex fertilization hasn’t occurred.

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Anonymous OP 7w

I totally agree, bodily autonomy is so important that we also have to respect the bodily autonomy of the baby. It’s never ok to kill an innocent human.

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Anonymous #3 7w

an unimplanted zygote is not a human baby i’m gonna invite u to be serious

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Anonymous #3 7w

Bodily autonomy is so important that you cannot use someone else’s body to sustain your own, it doesn’t matter if you’re 1yrs old or 60yrs old Why do you think those laws I mentioned exist? I noticed you dodged them

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Anonymous #4 7w

Distinct human life, biologically

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Anonymous #3 7w

okay but every unimplanted zygote is not considered a miscarriage. regardless, idc if u think a method of birth control fits some granular definition of abortion bc there’s nothing inherently wrong with abortion¯\_(ツ)_/¯ not everyone has to share ur beliefs, which are clearly rooted in ur religion. nothing wrong with that, but we are not of the same religion and u can’t expect me to adhere to rules ascribed to ur version of divinity.

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Anonymous OP 7w

The laws also hold parents who don’t use their bodies to feed their kids responsible for murder 🧐 what’s your point exactly? You don’t get to kill someone just because you wouldn’t give them an organ

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Anonymous OP 7w

Also the pills

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Anonymous #3 7w

Probably because it doesn’t have much to do with bodily autonomy?💀

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Anonymous #3 7w

Is he home yet? I dont have one, you know i dont have one lol, what was that supposed to do?😭 You think everyone needs to be married?💀

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Anonymous OP 7w

If your argument is parents don’t have to use their bodies to care for their children and keep them alive, the law literally requires them too. While we’re at it it’s also considered feticide and double homicide to kill a pregnant woman

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Anonymous #4 7w

It’s a miscarriage only if happened naturally. I haven’t mentioned religion once, I’m against abortion because of science and human rights. Nothing to do with religion at all.

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Anonymous OP 7w

Oh 🙃

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