Anonymous #1 4w

No they’re about the same. Just different aesthetics. Both parties have the same ultimate goal

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Anonymous OP 4w

what to protect white supremacy?

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Anonymous #1 4w

Yes to protect white supremacy, uphold US hegemony, and uphold global capitalist dominance through interventionism, violent imperialism and genocide

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Anonymous OP 4w

and 3rd parties don’t do that too? you’re still trying to work within a system that doesn’t care

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Anonymous #1 4w

Leftists don’t vote 3rd party bc they think they’re actually going to win. It’s to signify non-support for democrats and to get a head count of how many are on the same page about our government for organizing purposes. And to educate the masses on alternatives. We can still utilize parts of electoralism to our advantage but in most elections voting for the federal options is mostly useless

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Anonymous OP 4w

“signify non support for democrats” yet help get someone who literally doesn’t gaf about the genocide in???

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Anonymous #2 4w

Biden and Kamala didn’t gaf about the genocide either? Bc they were the ones who were conducting the deadliest part of it for more than a year?

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Anonymous #3 4w

True

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Anonymous OP 4w

You are the single issue voter

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Anonymous #4 4w

No, my vote is based on a million things? The genocide is just the most obvious ones. I don’t support the Democratic or republican Party on any of their initiatives. How is that a single issue

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Anonymous OP 4w

This whole time you’re telling us you couldn’t vote blue because of the genocide complacency And now we have Trump instead, who is much more than just being complacent with genocide

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Anonymous #4 4w

Nah an hour ago I said this is why I don’t support either party? Trump, Biden and Harris are all on the same page about the genocide and Israel

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Anonymous #4 4w

And it’s more than complacency when you’re conducting the genocide

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Anonymous OP 4w

I’m talking about you bro

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Anonymous #3 4w

wdym you’re talking about me? You were talking about the genocide and trump?

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Anonymous OP 4w

I Never said a thing about the genocide or trump idk what you’re talking about

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Anonymous OP 4w

So because you feel they’re the same regarding a single issue (the Palestinian genocide), it would be better to throw a vote to feel moral superiority and get Trump in office

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Anonymous #3 4w

Sorry thought you were 4. Im not a single issue voter lmao. As explained above

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Anonymous #4 4w

Before anyone says it, I’m aware third party voters aren’t the only reason he won, it was also the people who refused to vote at all, usually over the single issue

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Anonymous #4 4w

It’s not a single issue? As explained an hour ago, they’re on the same page about white supremacy, support for capitalism, interventionism and imperialism across the globe? Those are all huge umbrellas that contain a million issues within each Throw a vote? Feel morally superior? I disagree with just about every action in each parties? Why would I support either?

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Anonymous OP 4w

Most of us are able to very easily recognize that one option is leagues better than the other… lol

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Anonymous OP 4w

You’re goofy as fuck if you think we are going to get some kind of communist revolution in the United States by not voting for Kamala

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Anonymous #4 4w

Not the only reason? They’re not the reason at all

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Anonymous #4 4w

Yeah liberals with their limited framework but I’m not a liberal whatsoever

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Anonymous #3 4w

Girl when did I say that 😭 I literally said it won’t be solved by voting. I said WE have to do the work

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Anonymous OP 4w

And what are you doing? Fighting on yikyak with people and calling them “liberals”?

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Anonymous OP 4w

I’m not a liberal either I’m just not stupid and don’t care about putting so many more people in danger just to say I didn’t officially support either major party (you realize you can vote for someone without agreeing with every single thing about them, right?)

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Anonymous #3 4w

What are YOU doing? I’m outside doing the work. You just shit out on leftists who actually want liberation

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Anonymous OP 4w

How am I shitting on leftists 😭😭😭

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Anonymous #4 4w

Sorry but your framework is a neoliberal one whether you’re aware or not. Stupid? Not very kind or good faith. I don’t care about just Americans. I care about all harmed and killed by the American empire. Sorry. And yeah that’s why I vote mostly dem for state and regional elections. The federal government has its own agenda

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Anonymous OP 4w

Where did I mention leftists in that comment? If anything I’m talking about communists

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Anonymous #3 4w

What do you think communists are 😭

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Anonymous OP 4w

Yeah stupid and I’ll say it again You care so much about everyone else in the world that you put 0 effort into keeping the worst candidate possible for that out of office, now efforts against climate change are being scaled back or halted, the genocides continue, all kinds of bigotry are on the rise and being encouraged by our government, project 2025 is becoming reality

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Anonymous OP 4w

I’m not even shitting on them anyways, I’m just saying you’re goofy if you think that not voting for Kamala if going to start some kind of communist revolution

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Anonymous #4 4w

If anyone’s complacent it’s probably you

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Anonymous #4 4w

Yikes. You still don’t get it so I won’t explain it to you for the millionth time. Im looking at the big picture & how to bring about actual material change and not wasting my time whitewashing genocidal freaks. You think this country ever cared about climate change, genocides, bigotry 😭 that’s why you’ll forever stay stuck if you keep thinking this way bc you think the democrats care about that at all and you’ll continue to do their bidding just like republicans do with their party!

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Anonymous OP 4w

Ok single issue voter

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Anonymous #3 4w

but again, I never said it would bring about a communist revolution? I said leftists utilize electoralism for head count purposes and for getting our message out there? My comments are all here in this thread for you to read if you require further clarification

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Anonymous #4 4w

How? By doing the work to dismantle this empire and capitalism? Continuing to defend our government is complacency

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Anonymous OP 4w

I just don’t genuinely understand how not voting for Kamala and allowing Trump to get into office is “progressive”

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Anonymous #4 4w

Actually you’re a single issue voter. Your vote is reactionary. You’re only voting bc the person isn’t trump. You’re not coming up with actual solutions

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Anonymous #4 4w

Here it is again if you forgot

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Anonymous OP 4w

Voting for the candidate that best matches your ideologies and is most likely to win is what Americans have been doing since voting existed, but instead of trying to make a change with the system we have you just threw out your vote for someone we all knew had no chance at doing anything for us

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Anonymous #4 4w

I hate Biden and Harris yet I still voted for Harris because they had an actual chance at winning and keeping Trump out of office If you think you can fight back without voting, do you plan to start riots or take out dangerous gov officials like our real heroes do? Or are you one of those “be gay do crime” mfs who in reality can’t even order food without getting anxious and crying

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Anonymous #3 4w

Bc again from a leftist’s perspective, theyre on the same page about the purpose of this empire. Which is causing mass global suffering. Leftists are internationalists not nationalists. We are the most deadly empire. Continuing to vote for either party is continuing the harm. The working class has to own the means of production. That’s what we have to work on right now. Not whitewashing the harms of our empire. If you want to vote for her bc you see her marginally better than trump that’s fine.

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Anonymous #3 4w

But don’t defend or whitewash the Democratic Party or our country like you guys are. Or shit on ppl who refuse to vote for genocide, capitalism and imperialism. THATS what’s keeping us stuck where we are

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Anonymous OP 4w

Yeah you’re giving one of those people that has a hard on for a revolution yet doesn’t understand that you need to take small steps, that being not allowing Trump to get into office, to actually start a revolution. It’s not going to happen overnight

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Anonymous OP 4w

Now you’re in a country where brown people are getting deported because they speak out against Israel! So progressive 😍

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Anonymous #4 4w

But neither match my beliefs whatsoever? So what am I supposed to do with that. I disagree with them on every point and their purpose? Harris was never going to win, too See leftists don’t want to make a change within the system. They want to scratch the whole system. We just have different beliefs and that’s fine but you don’t even try to understand the leftist perspective

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Anonymous OP 4w

I could see you wearing this

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Anonymous #4 4w

Anyways I’m done here I got stuff to do OP if you really want a revolution but don’t want to change anything with your vote, get off your ass and actually do something, we’re waiting 🙂

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Anonymous #4 4w

Huh? lmaooo

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Anonymous #3 4w

Ofc I want revolution, capitalism is killing everyone and this planet and we need to intervene immediately before we destroy the entire globe? We’re taking the small steps now. One of the small steps just doesn’t include voting for the democrats. Esp as they shift further and further right. Who said it’ll happen overnight? I’ve never once suggested that. I said the working class needs to organize and raise class consciousness

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Anonymous #3 4w

You realize Obama deported the most people out of any administration… right? Trump is just not ashamed and does it in an in your face way.. the Biden admin was also targeting pro Palestinians too?

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Anonymous #4 4w

Girl I told you a million times I am doing shit that will actually bring about change, have you been listening 😭 all you do is vote for right wingers. you’re just making a play out of the anti-communist handbook with your comments

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Anonymous #4 4w

Woah I just saw your “order food without getting anxious” comment, that’s crazy lmao. Unfortunately I talk too much to be one of those kinda ppl.& no, none of those things apply to an American working class revolution. Riots need to be organic and of the will of the people. If you were on the left you’d know that. Working class revolution isn’t adventurism lmao. There is a playbook, it’s worked many times before. Read up on it. What does be gay do crime even mean?? I’ve never heard of that 😭

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Anonymous #2 4w

Even corporate democrats are at least able to be pressured unlike Trump.

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Anonymous #5 4w

I wish

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Anonymous OP 4w

Using 3rd parties like this secures their status as a non competition.

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Anonymous #6 4w

Theyre not trying to make any of the current 3rd parties competitive

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Anonymous OP 4w

They have been for decades. I'm a PSL member. It's the mindset behind third parties thats the issue. "They're a protest" "my vote is useless" "they'll never win"

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Anonymous #6 4w

They were not on my ballot nor were they on most states’ ballot. And we’re just not going to be able to vote ourselves out of capitalism is the reality. Would have voted them if they were an option in my state

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