Anonymous OP 2w

Why would anyone refer to mothers as “birthing people?” Who came up with this😭

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Anonymous #5 2w

Birthing person was created as a term to be inclusive to transgender men and non-binary people who are pregnant. It has nothing to do with “you’re only good for birthing,” and this person (OP) is complaining about a made up problem, because nobody is demanding them or anyone to use the term.

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Anonymous #1 2w

i know why the term was created i just dont like it cause thats the vibe it gives me. like imo "pregnant" is pretty gender neutral no? why cant we just say "pregnant parent" or "pregnant dad" like "birthing person" feels like it takes away from how intimate pregnancy can me to me, thats all im saying

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Anonymous #5 2w

Pregnant person is actually the much more common term, I think OP only used birthing person to stew up drama.

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Anonymous #1 2w

idk man 🤷‍♀️ im just saying what i think

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Anonymous #5 2w

yeah it gives weird vibes and it doesn’t sound natural. pregnant person is a way better gender neutral term

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Anonymous #1 2w

I understand, but if trans people are as feminist as they claim they are, they should know how women have commonly been reduced to their wombs. Birthing person is just not a good word for that. They can pick a word for themselves and use it, but terminology as a whole doesn’t need to change for everyone. obviously not everyone has to use it, but some people are literally changing documents and research terms because of it and it’s ridiculous.

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Anonymous #7 2w

Y’all really are reading too far into it

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Anonymous #7 2w

you had me then u lost me

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Anonymous #1 2w

We’re really not. The birthing person is extremely rude and reduces women to wombs. That’s literally a fact that’s why even liberal woman are against the term. And trying to say someone is reading too far into it is sort of proving the point. 🫩 they can call themselves pregnant and call it a day imo

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Anonymous #1 2w

i honestly think its better to read to far into it and be more mindful than not when it comes to stuff like this 🤷‍♀️ like whats the harm

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Anonymous #5 2w

I don’t think there’s anything for women to be mindful about when referring to pregnancy. If someone is pregnant, they are pregnant. I honestly think trans people would get more support if they would stop trying to force everyone to change all terminology and systems to accommodate them. It leads to people seeing the entire LGBTQ community as problematic because they’re a bit too woke imo

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Anonymous #7 2w

Y’all are not required to use the term or any of them for that matter. Nobody is making you. In research and on medical papers makes sense if the research and clinics serve/study gender nonconforming people. It’s literally not nearly as big of an issue as you want to make it out to be, I mean come on are you seriously offended if you see pregnant person/birthing person on a medical form? It’s a formality, it’s not that serious.

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Anonymous #1 2w

Yes, I am offended lol. It contributes to LGBTQ hostility as a whole because people now see the entire community as crazy because of the TQ part. At this point, they just need to separate into their own community if they’re going to keep up with all of that. It doesn’t even make sense to change your gender and then still get pregnant.

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Anonymous #7 2w

… how is being inclusive contributing to LGBTQ hostility exactly? And you might want to do some self reflection if a term on a medical paper offends you. Anyone who has a womb can get pregnant if they so choose. What’s the issue here?

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Anonymous #7 2w

I don’t see how it’s at all rude, I think some women need to think outside of themselves. I’m sorry but i really don’t care if someone were to call me a birthing person if they’re just trying to be inclusive. As long as it’s well intended and not meant as a slur. Who cares. Call me whatever. Pregnant person, birthing person, mother, mom, mama etc

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Anonymous #3 2w

OK and that’s good for you! Not everyone feels that way and you don’t get to invalidate other people. It’s not a small amount of people, because people value their identities as mothers. I also think you could feel differently if you had a child. I’m just sharing my opinion and how I feel. There’s nothing wrong with my opinion, I don’t have to accommodate every single person that wants to change terms every two seconds. If it wasn’t that big of a deal, they didn’t need a new term to begin with.

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Anonymous #7 2w

That’s a stupid last sentence

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Anonymous #7 2w

You’re giving major “I say I’m not transphobic but I am” vibes right now

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Anonymous #1 2w

This actually isn’t about inclusivity. This is because people associate the actions of every LGBTQ community member as representative of the community. That’s also why if one black person does something, white people have a tendency to try to put us all in one bubble. This is a normal social phenomenon that happens. You can read more into it online if you don’t believe me, but actions like these actually do lead to more hostility because it’s controversial on both political sides

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Anonymous #3 2w

i think when it comes to stuff like this wording should be important, especially with the current climate. like nowadays people are so quick to say misogynistic or transphobic things without giving it a second thought, like why not make sure that the words ur using to refer to a group of people include everyone in a non potentially harmful way?

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Anonymous #1 2w

OK, and I’m not going to combat that because you can think what you want. Not every trans person even agrees with this rhetoric. It’s something that some people agree with and some people don’t. Not agreeing with it doesn’t make me trans phobic.

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Anonymous #7 2w

man 🫩 what are u on about?

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Anonymous #7 2w

the way u type confuses me bro 🫠

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Anonymous #7 2w

But I think most women who are offended have some deep seated shit they need to unpack when it comes to trans women and gender. It was coined to be inclusive. It was not coined by cis men trying to degrade us. If you don’t prefer the term I get it. I just don’t get why it’s such a big deal either way

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Anonymous #5 2w

That’s totally a valid point and I hear you, but like I said, the word pregnant was never gender term. It obviously referred to woman because until recently, only woman could get pregnant. However, now that it’s recognize that other genders can get pregnant, there’s still no need to change the word in my opinion. That’s why people are upset about it because they feel as though it’s completely removing the intimacy of pregnancy and reducing people to their wombs. It’s not about trans people, it’s

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Anonymous #5 2w

About the word choice

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Anonymous #7 2w

What’s intimate about IVF?

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Anonymous #3 2w

I think your problem is that you assume that being against the word has anything to do with being trans. My problem with the word is that it reduces women to wombs, and it ignores the intimacy of pregnancy. It literally has nothing to do with transgender people and I have always actively supported the trans community. I also have actively condemned the word in the same breath.🤷🏽‍♀️ if a new term is needed, they can still have decency to consider how the term comes off.

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Anonymous #3 2w

To add, trans people aren’t even the only ones that use the word. this word is also used by non-binary people so this isn’t even about transgender people in entirety. This is simply about choosing a word that doesn’t minimize as a whole, especially because men already look at women as wombs.

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Anonymous #7 2w

Man I don’t look for 5 minutes and you’re still popping off about this? 1, you’re not even making sense anymore and 2, girl I know you got better shit to do than this.

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Anonymous #3 2w

i get that it wasnt coined that way but imo u could say the samething about "females" and i also dont thing "pregnant" or "pregancy" are gendered terms, like why not use those instead?

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Anonymous #5 2w

I think I’m agreeing with you. Pregnancy and pregnant aren’t gender terms so that’s what I’m saying. There’s no need to add another term. Birthing person is a step down from pregnancy because it isolates the entire experience and reduces the person carrying the child to a womb.

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Anonymous #8 2w

i feel like taking shots is pretty intimate...

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Anonymous #8 2w

Intimacy is referring to the process of carrying a child up until birth… Do you not know how that works? In addition, IVF actually is an extremely emotional and important process for many couples or single people doing it. It’s used by people that can’t have children or by same-sex couples that wouldn’t be able to otherwise.

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Anonymous #5 2w

You also need shots to not get sick doesn’t make it intimate or even to freeze your eggs still doesn’t make it intimate

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Anonymous #8 2w

Pregnancy is also very intimate because you’re carrying a child that you have months to bond with and share nutrients with.

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Anonymous #8 2w

i mean u still gotta go through the process of getting the eggs taken out and getting placed back in, like that process is pretty intimate

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Anonymous #5 2w

Right. Maybe I’m just wasting my time because most of these people haven’t had children. IVF and natural conception are just as intimate as each other. 🫩 I could also make the argument that saying otherwise is invalidating IVF moms too, shoot 😭

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Anonymous #7 2w

Girl do you have children?

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Anonymous #8 2w

OK, but we weren’t talking about the act of getting a shot. We were talking about carrying a child into birth? Do you not know how that works?

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Anonymous #8 2w

Until *

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Anonymous #7 2w

why did u say share nutrients like that 💀🙏

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Anonymous #1 2w

I do! I had one at 20 🤍

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Anonymous #5 2w

🤣🤣😭💀

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Anonymous #7 2w

Then get off yik yak and go take care of your child instead of trying to save yourself with this stupid ass argument you’re trying to make.

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Anonymous #1 2w

My babe is sleep 🤣 But clearly you have nothing else to say.

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Wow, you’re actually super nasty. But go off! I’m sorry you are under the impression that I’m trans phobic but I honestly don’t owe anything to you. Responding isnt obsessed🤣

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💀💀💀

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Anonymous #7 2w

You’re right, that was a bit nasty. I’ll rephrase: I hope your baby doesn’t turn out to be someone who argues with randos on yik yak over something that literally doesn’t affect you. Now have a goodnight, because you clearly are obsessed about this topic.

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